Nothing.... Nada.... Zip.... Really Disappointed

**aShiQ** · 02-02-2006, 06:08 PM

Hey,

Well I recently ordered by first

set of pheromones. And I've gotten no hits what so ever...

I'm

17 years old, 5'8", 145 pounds, built (work-out 5 days a week), good-looking, and Indian (Asian), stylish dresser,

. The main reason I've wanted to use pheromones was to make it easier for some of the nicer/shy girls to open up

and make it easier for them and myself to start conservation with. Sure some hits wouldn't hurt also, but I really

have no problem with that myself so that’s not a top priority at the moment.

I also wanted to get these two girls to open up. According to their body signs that I

notice they do seem interested, but usually I let the girls come to me (a bit shy) so I just wanted to make it

easier for them and my self; I seem to be too intimidating at the moment.

Well I ordered Chikara, Alter Ego, & the Sample Pack. I'll been using

Chikara, Alter Ego separately for a few days with no hits or anything remotely close to a hit,

there seems to be no difference what so ever. I've also tried mixing some of the AE & Chikara

(no results), The Edge Sample Gel Pack & AE (no results). My SOE sample pack leaked out so I didn't have a chance

to try mixing it/or even using it separately.

I' m personally

really interested in these products... and really hope that they can be of some use to me. Soooo I would like to

have another go... Could you guys recommend some products that I should buy / mix for a more effective

combination....? I already have AE & Chikara.

What are some of the best combinations out there currently, what are the strongest and the

ones with widespread results? What would you guys personally recommend to me? I’ve been reading these forums for a

while and had been looking around for the best combos which is one of the reasons I brought AE & Chikara, but those

don’t seem too effective at all (Biggest waste of $114.00 so far).

I’ve used the product at least 5 times. The first few days I was using Chikara and AE

separately.

(2 Sprays of Chikara) first day

(NOTHING)

(About 2-4 drops of AE) next 2 days, (NADA)

Combination of

both 4th day (2 Sprays of Chikara, 3 drops of AE), (ZIPPPPPPP)

AE & TE next day (3 drops of

AE, Half the gel pack of sample TE) (DISAPPOINTED)

I was usually

sitting or walking when I was using these products…

My Diet: Usually Vegetables/Fruits –

Once is a while chicken/eggs (rarely junk food)

No Sea foods, rarely alcohol, no

smoking.

Also the areas I’ve applied the products too…. Neck,

Wrist, Back of Ears

I may AE alone again… let you know what

happens tomorrow.

Also I spray on a bit of Ralph Lauren Romance, or Michael… but not

directly onto the applied spots.

HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP PPPP!!!!

Thanks

**aShiQ** · 02-02-2006, 06:20 PM

Okay did some more reading... and

I'm considering getting the following:

SoE
TE
NPA

What do you guys think?

**Cullmanz Own** · 02-02-2006, 06:26 PM

Go with it. TE works well

for me and SOE is pretty good mixed with either NPA or TE. Use them seperatly first, then mix. TE is pretty good

standalone. I've never used NPA.

**aShiQ** · 02-02-2006, 06:40 PM

Well the total is coming out to

$109.85... Looking for some more feedback before I buy.

These are the products I plan on getting...

New

Pheromone Additive for Men Size Small (5 ml)
Edge UNSCENTED for Men
Scent of Eros for Men

Any tip if I

should get the scented or unscented versions; any difference?
Also back to the first post... You guys have any

recommendations based on the information there...

Thanks again.

**Cullmanz Own** · 02-02-2006, 06:58 PM

Scented deff. but it

doesn't do much good. It wears off fast so always use a cover. It really doesnt matter.

**gamecity** · 02-02-2006, 08:11 PM

You can always buy NPA and SOE

first before getting TE since TE and NPA are somewhat identical according to some people.

**belgareth** · 02-02-2006, 08:33 PM

NPA and TE are the same

compound. NPA is just a lot more concentrated. You can look up the products in the Pheromone Reference Library.

**chubycheeks66** · 02-02-2006, 08:34 PM

npa is more

concentrated(stronger i guess)....i got the 10ml npa since i no id be using alot more...only 20 more

**Gegogi** · 02-02-2006, 08:37 PM

"...usually I let the girls come to me (a bit shy) so I just wanted to make it easier for them and my

self..."

That's your problem. You'll be lonely a long time if you keep that up! Few women, especially

younger ones, will jump out and bite you on the ass. Otherwise you could dump NPA on a stiff at a funeral and watch

the female mourners hump him raw. Women respond to pheromones differently than insects or lower mammals. Your

'mones may trigger an involuntary hormonal response in her, but her brain acts like a filter, often countering and

defeating her natural desires.

The secret is this: you must initiate the relationship. Smile, be charming

and witty, make small talk and, above all, listen to her, don't just talk about yourself. AFter all that, you'll

be in like Flint.

**Friendly1** · 02-02-2006, 08:54 PM

You're probably way too young

and built to be using products like The Edge and NPA. If you've been really reading the forums and the

PheroLibrary, you should have picked up on that.

Young guys who work out do NOT need to be beefing up their

Androstenone.

Also, you missed out on the repeated warnings that the pheromones will appear to have no immediate

effect on girls who already know you.

I agree with Gegogi. Your biggest problem is shyness. You have to show

some initiative. Otherwise, you're just wasting your time and money.

Confidence and a light-hearted approach

to life will get the girls to come after you. You have to project an "I don't care" attitude, be a bit intriguing,

a little mysterious, and funny in a light-hearted, non-toxic, friendly big brother you're-just-my-kid-sister

kind of way.

**aShiQ** · 02-02-2006, 09:12 PM

Well I'm really not

that shy around most girls... it's the girls that I really like that I guess I get a bit jumpy around. I usually

have no problems with girls that just like to have fun.

Smile, be charming and

witty, make small talk and, above all, listen to her, don't just talk about yourself. After all that, you'll be in

like Flint.

I know but that’s a bit harder to do around the ones you really like. I

am usually in a good mood, and very charming... I listen when I'm interested.

But thanks for your advice.. I

know I have to be more open around the ones I do like, but its a bit hard.

Young

guys who work out do NOT need to be beefing up their Androstenone.

I actually

never came across that, if I did I might have held back on purchasing, but I guess it’s too late now. And it seems I

did miss out on the one about the "girls who I already know" also

Well I'll try and

take your advice Friendly1 and see what happens.
And if I do decide to purchase anything I may

just go with SoE.

Thanks for your help guys

**CptKipling** · 02-03-2006, 12:29 PM

This is pretty much exactly the

same problem that So Confused had (read that thread). You need to have the balls to approach, and then initiate and

lead the "dance".

**bosshank** · 02-03-2006, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Gegogi

The secret is

this: you must initiate the relationship. Smile, be charming and witty, make small talk and, above all, listen to

her, don't just talk about yourself. After all that, you'll be in like Flint.

Concur with Gegogi. Also

Friendly1's advice "Confidence and a light-hearted approach to life will get the girls to come after you. ... be a

bit ... funny in a light-hearted, non-toxic, friendly ..."
Remember: those girls are looking for guys and

they know guys are looking for them. You gotta show'em that you are THE guy they are looking for. The above advice

will almost always work.

**luxveritas** · 02-05-2006, 05:07 PM

I have been using chikara for

3 weeks with no results then I switched to SOE and the results are fantastic. This doesn't mean that SOE is for you

and chikara will do nothing. You just have to find your mix.

**Rbt** · 02-06-2006, 11:22 AM

I also find it interesting that

products that you think are similar or nearly identical can produce different reactions. I've gotten responses

(I'm pretty sure) from Chikara and AE/m, but nothing of note from Perception. All are supposed to be more or less

"general purpose" mixes.

**aShiQ** · 02-06-2006, 01:11 PM

Yes... I've been thinking about

getting SoE... By the way guys, Friendly,Gegogi... I've been taking your advice and I seem to be getting better

results... Not attributed to the products itself.. but in

general.

Maybe SoE will give better results.

Anyway thanks alot...

And yea I think I noticed that too

Rbt from reading the forums.... Maybe its the smell itself from the different products, or the mix within them.