You know, Pongo, you look so
much like one of my cousins it's downright scary.
Anyway, care to elaborate on the responses, especially the cat
in heat one?
Females react like they are in love with you on this stuff and they are submissive, happy and want to be touched by
you (had a presentation sort of like a female cat in heat from a older woman at work) a big change from the
agressive sexual reaction you get from straight none.
I wont go into all the details of my night but it was
really cool - I was having a problem with my female supervisor using straight none she turned bitchy when I wore it,
180 degree turn-around with the perception gell. It's what I was looking for in pheromones so I put in an order for
the box of 50.
Pongo out
You know, Pongo, you look so
much like one of my cousins it's downright scary.
Anyway, care to elaborate on the responses, especially the cat
in heat one?
She just reminded me of a cat in
heat I guess - very submissive and followed me around and put herself in positions that looked like she wanted me to
mount her -she asked If I was married or ever had been and kept bugging me to write her number down (I thought she
meant sometime but she wanted me to have it NOW) she must have offered 4 or 5 times so I gave her a pen and told her
to write it down.
Both her and my female supervisor had love in their eyes - I dont want to get with them but
it's nice to have my supervisor out of bitch mode from the none only stuff. There is one woman there that I want to
get with and she responded well that night - it seemed she thought everything I said was funny and she was in a good
mood around me - it broke her out of her shy mode for the first time ever (she already liked me but was soooo
shy).
OK, so one strong vote for
Perception when I have the next budget cyce. :-)
A point and a question:
Point: Perception gell smells like someone smashed a stink bug into your armpit after 2hrs of street ball
Question: I use Z-14 every day, do I need to avoid direct contact with perception or can I spray the z-14
directly on the stink?
I just came off 9 says of testing
Perception gels. Pretty much got ZIP. Used 1/2 packet for about 7 days, 1 full packet one day, and about 3/4 packet
last day (showered in between so hopefully no carryover). Used Axe Phoenix, Spark, or Hugo as cover.
The best
reaction, if it was a reaction, was an odd comment from a Chinese Take-Out clerk/cook that may have implied they
thought I was younger than I am (I am told I look about 5-10 years younger than my "real" age already). Did the
extra dose of -none give that impression? Don't know.
Otherwise I see nothing I can link to the use of
Perception as a pheromone product. My cover scents DID last a goodly 12+ hours however, so that part is working.
I'm in mid 50's.
So Pongo-san, what kind of dosage were you using? Any other relevant data.
I need to
have bones jumped. Sometime this (new) year would be nice... before I forget entirely how it's done.
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
I'm with you Rob. Perception gels
haven't done jack crack for me. Pongo seems like one of those guys that gets extreme hits with anything, which
makes me a bit dubious.
Yea, the gels haven't had the best
reviews. The pheromone content was reduced from the original spray product.
"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
--Benjamin Franklin
I do get hits with anything or
nothing at all because of the psychology I use with women thats the first thing to study, not mones. I also know
what I am seeing and why the deviation from norm goes on (when it does) with pheromones.
What works for 1 person
may screw you all together or not work at all - most folks here know that.
can you explain a little more
about the psychology you use with women, if you dont mind, im really interested
thanks
About the psychology ~ Ill just
say do your own research on the topic, most everything is congruent.
I hope this doesnt get too nuts
it's just a comment,,...
>>> The pheromone content was reduced from the original spray product.
compare (phero dose -for- phero dose) the gel packs to the "original spray product" then compare $ for $.
A dose is a dose yo.
I still have a set of perception
bottles sitting around in my room tucked away in a plastic bag somewhere (the atomizers leak too much). Haven't
touched the stuff since august. I tried mixing it with all sorts of products (A1, chikara, NPA,SOE, TE) and saw
nothing other than the effects I would normally see with the mixed products. I don't know if it was all in my head
or not, but the other products seem to have less of an effect when mixed with perception. What effects I did see
did seem to last noticably longer though.
The mixture of pheromones in perception should make it work better
than they have been for myself and a lot of the other members. I'm wondering if the water-based polymer that locks
in the mones in somehow inhibits their effects....maybe it affects their dispersal or something... I don't know.
I'm wondering why the locking
polymer matrix isn't being offered by itself... I bet it'd sell better than Perception itself!
Perception haters! I get
nothing but hits with Perception gels as cover. At least Pongo's got the right idea. As for the pheros included, it
has about the same ammount as any gel pack, but lasts 2-4 times longer so the overall impact is lesser. Just put 1
gel pack on and forget about it for the rest of the day.
From Sigma >>> The mixture of
pheromones in perception should make it work better than they have been for myself and a lot of the other members.
I'm wondering if the water-based polymer that locks in the mones in somehow inhibits their effects....maybe it
affects their dispersal or something... I don't know.
I can tell you this if you touch my skin at any given
time it's much warmer than others in the same room (I'm a fat guy) so the polymer base may need more heat/moisture
to get the mones air-borne - you may be on to something with your idea.
As far as using the whole gel-pack at
one time Ill pass on that idea - stuff REEKS when I start to get athletic at work,...
I'm not a big fan
of gel packs and was disappointed to hear that Perception was going the gel route instead of getting a better
atomizer. The spray version showed potential to me but I don't like having to smear the gel over my cologne. The
spray is easier. For me, it's hard to meter dosage from the Perception gel packs. Perception is a bit runnier than
the other gel products. And unless you use the whole pack of a gel, you have the problem of safely storing an open
pack without leakage. Maybe my opinion will change when they come out with the pump dispenser for the Platinum
version.
I still have the spray, but have put it aside because so many other products keep coming out.
Chikara is still my favorite and I'm now using Alpha A314 a lot.
The manufactures of Perception, BDC Concepts, stated that if there was enough demand for theOriginally Posted by catlord17
polymer alone, they would offer it. I think it was announced a few months back that this is on the horizon.
it probably would.Originally Posted by catlord17
>>> The spray version showed
potential to me but I don't like having to smear the gel over my cologne
The perception web-site says not to do
that - the only thing that can come into contact with it is water and their own scent, otherwise the polymer matrix
gets molested.
Interesting. Another point against the gel in myOriginally Posted by Pongo
opinion. With the spray, they said it was no problem to use your own colognes, that's why the scent came in a
separate atomizer from the pheromone product. You applied your cologne of choice first, then sprayed the pheromone
product on top.
Well, I've been poking around the
BDC Concepts website and I sure don't see anything about the gels at all (see nothing except the Gold release spray
info). Especially anything that indicates that you shouldn't apply it over a cologne. And I would also think that
the BDC people would be back here posting on this forum like they have in the past to address any questions we may
have about the product. After all, their website did state that Love-Scent was the sole distributor of the Gold
version, so I'd think they'd tell us, or at least Bruce, *something* about the products. So far, zip.
Therefore I'd like to ask these favors:
Pongo: please post a link or some other info to this website page you
speak of.
Bruce: do you have any info concerning the "over cologne" issue, or when the matrix may be available
as a stand-alone like was mentioned in a BDC post on this forum some time ago.
Thanks
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
Thinking about the
cologne issue after posting last night, I remembered that BDC Concepts did say not to mix their product with
anything other than water or the companion Perception cologne. Anything else would taint the matrix
properties.
Maybe that's what Pongo was referring to. If not, I'd like to see a link also.
It's
been a couple of months since I've used one, but aren't the gel packs unscented? If so, one would have to put his
own cologne underneath if he wanted a cover scent.
uhhhh - yea thats what Pongo was
refering to exactly,...
By what I see here perception may not stand a chance in the pheromone market
place.
I really like the concept of the phero-locking polymer matrix quite honetsly, and amOriginally Posted by Pongo
hoping they'll develop this further. It gives them a really distinct advantage/benefit in the phero-market that
should allow to stay afloat if they were willing to:
A) re-formulate the pheromone content to find more
universally effective contents. Many of the products on LS are constantly improved upon with newer versions (ie
IMPI, A314), yet other than the gel packs, we haven't seen anything new from them.
B) use better quality
atomizers! I prefer droppers or atomizer to gel packs simply because they're easier to dose, and the Perception
atomizers were leaking on arrival. Though its mostly my fault for not returning them, I've lost a significant
amount to leakage.
Keep at that perception though pongo if its working for you. there's quite a lot of
variability from person to person around the forums, so definately stick to what works best for you, not necessarily
what works for others around here. keep us posted on how you're doing with the stuff.
I've reviewed the web-site info and the BDC posts and the way I interpretOriginally Posted by Pongo
it is that you should not MIX anything INTO the matrix carrier (either in the pheromone spray or the fragrance
spray) like you would with NPA or the like.
However, being able to "extend" the useful life of a pheromone or
fragrance product is the whole "reason to be" for the matrix (the Perception pheromone mix and fragrance were
created primarily as "test bed/examples" of what can be done with the matrix the way I read it). Applying a
pheromone product or fragrance to your skin and letting it "dry down" first, then applying the matrix stuff over it
(eg the spray pheromone mix or fragrance stuff) is just fine and okay.
I can't find anything specific
concerning the gel packs, except the mention that the final form of the matrix was probably going to be in a pump
dispenser gel form, but I greatly suspect that the same holds true with the gel pack "Platinum" (beta?) product. As
long as you let whatever you apply first "dry down" on your skin, you can apply the gel over it to no ill effect.
BDC Concepts hasn't answered any of my emails to them on the subjects unfortunately.
_
The opposite of love isn't hate.
It's apathy.
Is there anyone besides the Hawk
getting positive results from the gels?
Icey, anything more to share on Perception's gel?
Where do
you apply your entire pack?
Has it made a change to any mone/mix you've already been wearing?
Thanks!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
I'd been use gell for long
time.. I got a lot "positives" with it. My best combination is after shower .. 3 dabs of Pheros on wet body ..and
perception 1/2 packet after 15 min .. and Emporio Armani on my clothes ..
--
PS-> God, a long time ago i
dont post here ..how u fellows ?
Abductor,Originally Posted by abductor
Not bad, been busy myself (not
posting either) for quite a long while.
Hmm . . . I might have to give the perception gels a shot (box seems
inexpensive). I just ran out of the perception phero spray (have plenty of fragarence).
-SwingerMD
It Don't Mean a Thing if it ain't got that swing. . . . -Duke Ellington
and plus about no fragance
..
here in london pheromones are much popular than in brasil and some times when i'm at some pub or tube i can
feel some pheromones scents and i think with myself ..this guy wearing this or that mone .. it's kind funny
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and it always feels comforting to you any old timer hear. We're all indebted for the knowledge you helped bring.
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