Yeah, last thing I want to do is
cause any trouble. LOL. I'm just looking for advice really, Alter Ego seems to be the best product I have but
looking for THE best product, if there is such a thing.
Yeah, last thing I want to do is
cause any trouble. LOL. I'm just looking for advice really, Alter Ego seems to be the best product I have but
looking for THE best product, if there is such a thing.
That's what the suggestion box
forum is for.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
no such thing really as the best
product, because each one may work better for different people. I personally like AA314 and use it with AE. I've
been getting a lot of great results from those two combined.
I am generally very interested to
received tips about new (good) products that we could carry on Love Scent. The suggestion box is the place for
them. AND, it is standard procedure to delete the suggestions after they have been made note of so that competitors
do not pick them up, regardless of where they show up.
By the way, it is against forum policy to publicly
slam the forum, its moderators, or various policies, or even waste bandwidth discussing them. Posts like that are
going to get deleted. Complaints can be addressed by PM or email with any of the mods as long as they are
respectfully written.
Now on to the "suggestion" at hand, I've seen Pher-Lure come up a couple of times, but
I am getting 3-4 spam emails a day from those guys and in my mind that more or less takes them out of the running.
Sort of 2 strikes against them, but I'm interested to hear more if it seems to be a worthy product.
Bruce
To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.
- Buddha
Yoga in Eugene
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From what I can tell Bruce itOriginally Posted by Bruce
seems like it is only a real good scent that increases your natural mone intensity as well as any mones you have on.
Alone I have found it to do nothing so far.
maybe Pherlure is something like
APC, but APC has a great scent, which is why I buy it. haven't herd any good hits from it by itself.
Pherlure has produced results
for me in at least four women, one of which had a very low sex drive. The other three were highly sexed and all
three of them began giving major hits when exposed, without knowing I was wearing 'mones. I think the only thing I
didn't see was a butt presentation. The lower-sexed one was commenting on how I looked different somehow, and she
liked the new look, but she could not figure out what it was.
I told two of them it was pheromones and asked
what they were feeling. They both told me, without knowing eachother, the same thing: "It shuts down all thoughts
except thoughts about sex." These two, to this day, have never met or communicated.
The third zeroed in on
where I applied it and began kissing me there right in front of her boyfriend. I have also noticed definite
deference from some men, and in general a much more positive, open, and accepting response to me in general when I
wear it, applied to skin or clothes.
I also notice it boosts my mood, makes me much more self
confident.
I'm not thrilled with the marketing techniques of the company, though, and that's why I came
here. I'm testing TE now.
vette & catlord: Where you wearing
it as standalone or with other pheromones?
ANNNND! How old are you two, and how manyOriginally Posted by Mick
sprays of the product do you use?
Thanks!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
I'm 32 years old, freckled
caucasoid. I usually use 1 spray of Pherlure to my neck, but sometimes I use 2, one tomy shirt and one to my neck.
If I am feeling particularly naughty I apply one to my crotch and one to my neck.
I have APC, Pherlure and TE.
I have noted that TE covered by pherlure seems to be much less sexual than either one alone, oddlyenough, so until I
understand how TE works better, I am using them separately. I haven't used more than one spray of TE at a time
yet.
Has anyone else seen these
results with Pherlure?
I find it rather curious that only
"strangers" on the fourm are having positive results...mmmm.
I don't have it myslef just an
observation.
DCW
True....but at least they are
not making ridiculous and immature statements like "This girl kissed me out of no where in front of her
boyfriend"....
HINT>> HEAVY SARCASM
Dimmit, DCW! I was trying my best not to say anything, but since youOriginally Posted by DCW
open your big mind ... YEAH! That's what I've been noticing for quite some time ... people coming from out
of no where posting on certain products for their first post. DISTRIBUTORS?
If ONLY they
worked!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
My thoughts exactly, but I am interested if anyone else with positive resultsOriginally Posted by DCW
speaks up.
I can't say IOriginally Posted by CptKipling
have had positive results with Pherlure by itself. I'm just a mone junkie and I'm always wearing more than one or
2 products at a time.
But there is something "Je ne sais quoi" about the scent of the women's version. I love
it! It's up there with my most favorite perfume! Coincidence --- or something more? I use it as a cover scent for
some of the other mones.
Treasure Every Moment that you have
Yesterday is History - Tomorrow is a Mystery
Today is a Gift - That's why It's called the Present!
(Unknown source)
I scanned their site andOriginally Posted by CptKipling
couldn't find anything to support claims that di-dehydroepiandrosterone is a pheromone. If a university study had
been done on this compound, I would have at least been able to find something other than comments on a marketing
site. The marketing attempt also includes the human VNO approach, which has been decidedly dropped from olfactory
research pursuits by any researcher who does not have a financial stake in making false claims about how pheromones
work.
Similarly, Winnifred Cutler (Athena products) originally claimed (early 90's) that
dehydroepiandrosterone was the active ingredient, before claiming the ingredients were secret, and would not be
divulged until she received her patent. No further word on her patent or the ingredients in the past
decade.
It is apparent that the folks at Pherlure are scamming everyone they can--just like many companies
who promote pheromone products. If any of you take a serious look at their links, and find anything they say to be
legit (supported by published scientific evidence or patent info) please let me/us know.
Perhaps I missed
something; but I doubt it. There has never been any indication that dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) is a pheromone,
much less supporting that two moledules of DHEA linked together: Di-DHEA would have pheromonal
properties.
Are there other marketing "strangers" out there that would like to debate
this?
JVK
Euhm - jvkohl, I'm not refutingOriginally Posted by jvkohl
anything you said. My personal knowledge is too limited.
But I seriously doubt that Pherlure would recruit
marketing strangers in Dutch speaking countries. (I'm refering to Jan_123456)
Respectfully - NG
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Treasure Every Moment that you have
Yesterday is History - Tomorrow is a Mystery
Today is a Gift - That's why It's called the Present!
(Unknown source)
I'm not distributing Pherlure
- yet. I'm just doing personal testing to see which pheromone products I am going to be distributing come the
opening of my webstore. And I honestly don't know that di-dehydro-epiandrosterone is a pheromone or what... but I
can only conclude what my eyes see when it comes to results. I am sure some of what I have said is hard to believe,
and my status as newcomer doesn't help my credibility, but I'm not interested in selling the stuff when I make the
comments I do about it. I'm just reporting what I have experienced. And everything I have said is
true.
The fact is, even if it had no effect on anyone else, I'd still be wearing it because:
1. I
really like how it smells, and
2. It affects my mood. It gives me a lot more confidence than I usually have.
And I don't think that's a placebo effect because when I have worn only TE or APC, I have no such
response.
I'm planning to be a reseller for Love Scent products, since I admire the open, honest approach
Bruce uses. Pherlure's parent company uses advertising methods I don't particularly like or respect, but then
again, I have personal experience with results from their product. Not sure if I am going to resell it, but only
because I think their marketing methods are sleazy.
So, for those of you who are skeptical of my comments and
statements, I can respect that. But again, as I said... I can only relate to you what I have seen with my own
eyes.
And by the way, about the woman who started kissing my neck out of the blue, I believe I mentioned
she's been trying to get with me for the last three years. It wasn't a cold turkey hit from a complete stranger.
And yes, not only was her boyfriend watching, but so was her son, and the mother of her son's child, and a small
group of other people.
Yes, it really happened. But it wasn't a cold turkey hit by far - although there
was no alcohol involved.
Hello....I am
relatively new to this site, and to pheromones in general. My first "pheromone experience" was with Pherlure, when
my good friend you all know as Catlord17 let me sniff his bottle. I can assure you, it definitely works! Lol. At
least, it certainly had an effect on me. Smelling his pherlure is what got me interested in pheromones, and what
prompted me to place an order here- and already i am hooked and buying more! Heheh.
Anyway, just wanted to
share my experience and say hi and all. I have really been enjoying reading through the forums.....i think
pheromones are fascinating!
Bye for now....
As fascinating as pheromones are, there still are criteria forOriginally Posted by ilana612
marketing products. In this case, the marketers tell us what's in it--a point in their favor, but only if someone
else (preferably a researcher) has indicated that Di-DHEA is a pheromone. The claim that it acts via the VNO is
ridiculous, but expected of marketers who have no idea what they're talking about. So far, only the pheromones
patented by Erox/Pherin corp. folks have been shown to act on the VNO, and the studies that showed this action have
been called into question by the vast majority of olfactory researchers. Di-DHEA is not mentioned in the context of
a pheromone in any peer-reviewed literature, so who decided to call it a pheromone?
University tested in
another marketing buzz word, but if you try to find out anything about this "University testing" you find nothing
but a claim that it was university tested. Nothing to back up the claim.
It's troubling to see Forum
members fall for such a blatant marketing scam.
JVK
It's not a matter of falling for a scam, James...Originally Posted by jvkohl
Honestly I don't care if it's a pheromone or not - all I can say is, however and whyever it works, it has the
intended effect. Believe me, I was aware of the BS advertising when I ordered it. I'm responsible for doing the
advertising of my company, and I know what to look for because I have studied the advertising styles of a lot of
different companies. Theirs screams BS. That's why I was so surprised when it worked. But instead of believing
what I saw at their website, or what someone else told me, I decided to try it for myself and see with my own two
eyes. That is to say, I'm a skeptic by nature.
Interestingly, thus far, the only other product I have
tried that seems to have a similar effect is SOE... which if I remember correctly, was formulated by you!
Hey everyone,
I think
I'll add my 2 cents here as well on Pherlure. I was skeptical at first so I decided to try just 1 bottle since I
heard from a very credible source that Pherlure did indeed work. When I got the bottle I went to a university
bookstore nearby and gave myself a couple of sprays before I walked in and I immediately got the DIHL look from an
extremely hot, tall, cosmo magazine European looking babe who was on her cell phone walking around and talking but
always coming back in my direction and there was definitely ALOT of eye contact between us! I got this same reaction
along with compliments on how I smelled from some other women as well but not from every woman who was near me when
I wore it. It's been my experience that there is definitely something to Pherlure. Anyway, I went ahead and ordered
some more because I was so impressed with the first bottle. BTW, I used it stand alone with no other fragrance to
cover it up and it has a nice scent which seemed to project very well and not dissipate too quickly. When I got my
second order in though I took a bottle and went to field test it and I got no hits at all after wearing it over the
course of a couple of days - also there was a difference in the strength of the scent; it wasn't as strong or as
long lasting, so what I did was to mix the rest of that bottle with APC and for some reason I started getting the
looks and smiles again so I have to say that for some reason it is hit or miss. (Now, mind you that the APC I mixed
it with was 4 years old still in a sealed bottle that I never opened.) I do know that APC alone did not get me many
hits at all except for one girl I was making out with one time who told me that my scent was turning her on. I mixed
Pherlure with Realm with no results and I also tried it with Jovan Musk and the Pherlure pretty much killed the
scent of the musk and once again no results with that combo. I also wonder if pheromones effect a woman differently
at different times of the month for her. I am a newbie who has just ordered some of Bruce's products to see what
effect they will have when I mix them with Pherlure. I'm hoping to come up with a great mix and if so I'll share
it with the forum. Let me say also that even though I am new to this forum that I have no connections to the company
that makes Pherlure and that this has been my honest experience with it.
Pherolover
If the product is working for you as a standalone, why do u need toOriginally Posted by Pherolover
mix it...mmmmmmmm?
DCW
What I don't understand is
how it could work for the first bottle and not work for the second... those are some odd results.
In my case, if
I mix it, it seems to work less well. Mixing with TE produces much less response for a much shorter period of
time.
Still no sign that TE is getting me hits by itself, though... I'm not sure if I need more or what, still
using 1-2 sprays.
This report of the first bottle working and the second one not makes me wonder if maybe they
only ship active ingredient to new customers?
All these 'testimonials'
are from newbies. When people who have had 500+ posts on the forum or have been here for a year or more, only when
they post that the product works will I be interested. Maybe the company that distributes the product can give free
small bottle samples of the product to some experienced and reputable forum members to test and post their feedback.
And if it works we can get Bruce to sell it.
Visionary
Hi,
To answer DCW's
inquiry, I would not have had any reason to mix it if the 2nd bottle worked as good as the first one did - this was
the reason I mixed it with APC because I got absolutely no hits with it stand alone at all but once I mixed it with
the APC I started to get results again close to but not exactly the same. To respond to catlord17 I was thinking the
same thing: that they may only put enough of the active ingredient in it to get a new customer to buy more and once
the customer does buy more they get a less effective product. Kind of like the old bait and switch game that
department stores used to use on customers. But they also offer a money back guarantee if you're not satisfied so
on the surface it wouldn't seem to make sense that they would do that if they had to refund people's money so I
really don't know what's up when it comes right down to it.
Pherolover
Bruce isOriginally Posted by Visionary7903
unlikely to sell such a product; he's not into scamming and never has been. When a company goes to the degree this
one has to misrepresent its product, it sends a clear signal to anyone who is legit. Regretably, this thread is
bringing more attention to the product than it deserves. My comments were not intended to contribute to any debate.
If it were up to me, I would pull the thread, and monitor for repeat mention by any "strangers." I'm against
censorship, but I'm not comfortable reading any more attention-grabbing garbage about the product (certain posts
excepted).
JVK
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