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    Default What the heck is A1?

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    around and people are saying A1. But what is A1. I don't see it on the lovescent for men section.

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    find it in kits supplies

    section of the store

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    And it seems the only "finished"

    product available at L-S that includes A1 in it's mix is Pheromax. As far as we know. I've been told that it's a

    "patented" (or whatever) product, so some products use stuff that "mimic" A1 (as part of their "secret

    ingredients.")
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    And it seems the only

    "finished" product available at L-S that includes A1 in it's mix is Pheromax. As far as we know. I've been told

    that it's a "patented" (or whatever) product, so some products use stuff that "mimic" A1 (as part of their "secret

    ingredients.")
    Are you saying that A1 itself is patented? I thought it was a straight naturally

    produced pheromone that can be synthetically produced by any manufacturer..I'm sure I'm reading your comments

    wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud9
    Are you saying that

    A1 itself is patented? I thought it was a straight naturally produced pheromone that can be synthetically produced

    by any manufacturer..I'm sure I'm reading your comments wrong.
    Selling it straight is OK. Its use in

    a commercial product is patented (by the Relm people).
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    So how has pheromax gotten away

    with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud9
    So how has pheromax

    gotten away with it?

    I was getting my info in a private off-the-record conversation with a rep from a

    pheromone product maker so I wasn't 100% certain of the details and am cautious in revealing too much for a variety

    of reasons.

    Mtnjim is probably correct in saying that it's inclusion in a "finished" product is legally tied

    up by Realm (sounds right based on what I've seen elsewhere with other types of products). He may have the facts on

    hand that I don't. Pheromax could have simply paid Realm for a "license" to use A1 in their product. Those who

    don't want to pay the fees (I assume there probably are fees or at least lawyers involved...) will try to create

    substitutes.

    And I should also stand corrected. Realm for Women *may* contain A1. I don't recall anything from

    the Realm people that actually specifically states that it's A1 in there. Postings and such from other forum

    members express the *opinion* that it's A1 from what I've read here. It's also generally thought that the

    percentage of A1 in women's Realm is pretty small, meant to affect the wearer more than anyone else.
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    Gents,

    I believe that the key

    phrase in the patents is "Fragrance Compositions".

    Both patents listed on the Realm box:



    U.S. Patent #5,272,134



    U.S. Patent #5,278,141

    .....can be found linked in the

    Pheromone Research Forum here

    and here for ease of future

    reference.

    Oscar

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