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    Default Box O' Perception Packets

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    Guys,

    I'm just pasting in the blurb on this from the newsletter, in case some of you didn't get it. This

    really is a good deal though. These and SOE/unscented are the only unscented gel packs we sell, and the price is

    extremely cheap. The box might be helpful for keeping the loose packets in one spot too. I have a LOT of these

    boxes. Anyone interested in reselling them, drop me an email. I'll give you a good

    price.

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    Perception Fans!!!!
    We now have Perception gel packets (men's

    formula only) in boxes!

    This is a great deal. You get 50 packets of one of the few (2 to be exact) UNSCENTED

    gel packet products on the market in a handy box for only $34.95. If you buy the loose packets, you pay $50. for

    only 38 packets. With the "Box O' Perception", the numbers are reversed: you pay $34.95 and you get 50 packets. Not

    too shabby, eh? Normally these boxes will cost $49.95 each, but I have a boat load of them and need to get them

    moving. This week only... $15. off! No limit!
    Check it

    out:
    http://www.love-scent.com/product_in...products_id/98
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    Cool idea, if I didn't have a

    load I'd get this - the box should eliminate the risk of bursts and leeks too.
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    geesh if i wasnt so broke

    and planning to break my neck skiing in a few weeks id pick it up.

    sorry bruce great deal but bad timing

    for me.

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    50 Packet box for 35$ vs 38 for

    50$???
    Thats way too good a deal to pass up really. Thanks Bruce Im getting mine tonite.

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    Okay, I can understand that BDC

    wanted a nice "retail display" sized box, but those 50 packets look just plain lost inside of it... Reminds me of

    the last piece if software I bought. Huge box, one disk & dinky manual. If I was going to put a box of P-Packs on my

    counter I think I'd be adding a false "riser" bottom inside of the box so it doesn't look quite as Grand

    Canyon-like and the product itself was a bit more visible.
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    What I was told is that they wanted

    the box to look popular sitting on a counter top in a shop; ie: quite a bit has been sold already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce
    What I was told is that

    they wanted the box to look popular sitting on a counter top in a shop; ie: quite a bit has been sold already.



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    That's a familiar technique (I've used it myself when I did retail), but I think they went a bit

    overboard on this one. I'd be thinking of a compromise "filler" that would fill up only about half the box. The

    "emptyness" of the current box just doesn't "feel" right to me... but people do respond differently and who knows

    what marketing technique will do best...

    I went for maybe a 3/4 to 2/3 full shelf/box/display much of the time

    but also made sure things were well dusted! A little difficult to create the feeling of a "hot item" if they are

    covered with dust bunnies.
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    I think that most phero users

    will purchase pheros for the actual pheros or the deal available, not how it looks. As long as it dosent look like

    it was made in someones closet, Im not the one to complain.

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    The box and packets both look

    professional; more so than the other packets we sell. Just the "problem" with the half-fullness.

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    I don't see why the perception

    box display would be a problem unless your trying to resell the stuff. After all aren't you buying it for the

    product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce
    The box and packets

    both look professional; more so than the other packets we sell. Just the "problem" with the

    half-fullness.

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    Perhaps they could put the old cereal box disclaimer on their box. "This product sold

    by count, not volume. Some settling may have occurred during shipment."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud9
    I don't see why the

    perception box display would be a problem unless your trying to resell the stuff. After all aren't you buying it

    for the product.
    Some of us may also want to make a buck. Now that I'm actually learning something

    about pheromones and pheromone products I may try my hand at retailing some of them. Althogh I'm not sure I want to

    give others in my area the same secret "advantage" I'm gaining.



    (That is said at least in

    *partial* jest...)

    It's also a habit of mine to comment on marketing etc related items given my background in

    social/personal psychology and the retail and service business. Sometimes I babble.
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    that makes since...yeah, I

    wouldn't want everyone having an edge with pheromones where I lived either.

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    I haven't heard a lot of discussion

    on Perception, anyone using it and if so what are the results?


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    I think the ratio of Anone to Anol

    makes it a more social type hit product.

    Androstenone .1mg/ml, Androstenol .2mg/ml, Androsterone .1mg/ml



    Kind of like AE/m but with the ANone and Anol ratios reversed and I hear that Perception lasts longer because of

    the carriers in it.

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    I will be trying it real

    soon....it sounds like a real great product. Lots say that the scent is better than Ae....and that it is geared more

    socially than Ae but has more sexual spice than Chikara....yet it lasts much longer than either product and the nol

    will slowly be changing to none....so it just sounds like it has much potential.
    Add a little Chikara and you have

    yourself a party according to some....

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    I'm expecting my box

    of Perception gels to arrive tomorrow or the day after. I'll report my trials with it.

    By the way, if I wanted

    to increase the 'none content, what product would you suggest I try under the Perception gel? NPA, TE/EE, TE gel,

    or even Chikara as Duke suggested? Do you know what kind of carrier (gel/alcohol/oil) mixes best with the Perception

    gel?

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    longer than either product

    and the nol will slowly be changing to none....so it just sounds like it has much potential.
    takes around

    8 hours before noticable amounts of Anol change to Anone on the skin. the scent and pheromones are bottled separate

    in the full retail kit. Its a less sexual ratio, but like u said it does hold up longer. I wouldn't add any SOE to

    it if you decide to get it at first Duke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCW
    I haven't

    heard a lot of discussion on Perception, anyone using it and if so what are the results?


    DCW



    i've had very good results with perception. it does seem like chikara to be hit or miss for the users from what i

    remember on its discussion. it is slightly more social than sexual than Ae is. it is kinda like adding soe to ae in

    a sense and wearing a bit less of the mix.

    for me it is a good everyday product. gives me the social edge but

    still has the sexual mystery about it. like ae it is a well balanced product it is just flip flopped when compared

    to ae's none, nol, content.

    normally i wear 2 sprays somedays i ad a touch soe to it. lately ive been spicing

    it up with 1 dab npa and wearing 1 spray. i must say it is proving a good combo especially since i dont have to

    reapply thru the day.

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    Question Perception --May work best for the Under 30 Crowd

    Hi : A quick note from traderneil in Las Vegas. I have been using perception packets on various

    occasions, but without any substantial effect. I have used it by itself, in mixes with other mones, and other

    applications but have still very little to report in the way of increased perception on the part of women.

    This

    brings me to the point of age differences in Men. I am thinking that the Perception Product may work best in Young

    men in the 20-30yr range, and may be best suited to them, whereas products like Chakra might work best in men in a

    higher age group such as myself. There is no way for me to validate this except in reading the posts on L/S, but it

    may be worthwhile to consider the age factor when using mones.

    For example I have read about axe spray being a

    cheap scent that only is directed towards high school folks, but when I use it I get great reactions from

    everybody,(of course I am using other mones at the time) but still smelling youthful is always a good thing, (I

    would rather smell youthful myself) So I believe that the chemical makeup of a person does change with age,

    therefore you may have to adjust your mix/ratio of mones not to suit your taste, but to address your chemical

    composure, its not how good you think you smell,its how good the people you want to attract think you

    smell.......Las Vegas NV.

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    I'd say Chikara and Perception

    probably have similar low ratios of Anone and may work better as standalones for the younger crowd. You can always

    add more Anone to perception to make it meet your pheromone signature needs.

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    You may have a good point

    there. I'm 49 and have used up two bottles of Perception trying to get results. At best, they were limited and

    inconsistant. Chikara has always given me pretty good results.
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    Chikara must have something extra

    that helps out, because both seem to be low on Anone right?

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    Chikara has some none in it but

    not much. That's fine for me because I OD on none easily. Otherwise, I have no idea what all is in it.
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    i will be giving both a shot

    here soon. My only experience with either of them is one pack of Chikara which got some odd but noticeable results

    for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traderneil
    Hi : A quick note

    from traderneil in Las Vegas. I have been using perception packets on various occasions, but without any substantial

    effect. I have used it by itself, in mixes with other mones, and other applications but have still very little to

    report in the way of increased perception on the part of women.

    This brings me to the point of age differences

    in Men. I am thinking that the Perception Product may work best in Young men in the 20-30yr range, and may be best

    suited to them, whereas products like Chakra might work best in men in a higher age group such as myself. There is

    no way for me to validate this except in reading the posts on L/S, but it may be worthwhile to consider the age

    factor when using mones.

    For example I have read about axe spray being a cheap scent that only is directed

    towards high school folks, but when I use it I get great reactions from everybody,(of course I am using other mones

    at the time) but still smelling youthful is always a good thing, (I would rather smell youthful myself) So I believe

    that the chemical makeup of a person does change with age, therefore you may have to adjust your mix/ratio of mones

    not to suit your taste, but to address your chemical composure, its not how good you think you smell,its how good

    the people you want to attract think you smell.......Las Vegas NV.

    There may be something to the age

    thing... I'm mid 50's and have had little or no luck with straight Perception. Am currently experimenting with

    adding a314, and have been contemplating boosting with some NPA or TE. I've been getting bad -none reactions from

    one of my main targets so have been cautious, but the a314 seems to have helped mitigate the problem. But I don't

    recall if I've done NPA and Perception combos very often with her so we shall see. I have hopes for Perception (or

    at least the carrier) as I love the fact it can last much longer than other products. My Friday "outing" this week

    went for about 7 hours straight with little or no opportunity for practical "refreshment" of phero applications, so

    the Perception "extension" was helpful, although I can't be sure the pheros themselves did much. Sometimes hard to

    tell.
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