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    Exclamation Look here for lists of products that work for others

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    I'm going to try a variation on the usual questions I see here from forum users and hopefully create a

    reference source for both Newbies and Old Hands concerning product preferences based on perceived effectiveness.



    What I'd like to have you do is create a single post here on this thread (one post per user), listing in a

    "rank order" (#1 being best), your opinions of the various pheromone products you have actually tried. Try to

    make separate lists by dividing the products into two classes: Social/Business (friendly, chattyness,

    "icebreaker") and Dating/Sexual ("love and kisses"). In any case, if you've only tried one product (or one

    mix/combo), list it anyway. You can also mention total failures.

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    ADDENDA 4/28/05
    It has

    come to my attention there are questions about how to "classify" the various pheromone products. Basically it is up

    to the user to decide, based on their own results, where a product might fit. However, as a starting point, I'm

    going to make a sample list based on my own conclusions. Items were sorted depending on a) the

    manufacturer's intended use for a product, b) comments in the "Additional Information" section of the product guide

    for each product, and/or c) general usage for the products as gleaned from info in Forum posts. I'm going to

    violate my own call for not using abbreviations for the sake of space in this addenda. These may be modified due to

    user input and/or addition of new products. I don't have enough info on products designed specifically for women to

    include (yet).

    Social/business ("Standalone," generally non -none products)
    PF, SOE, SPO, SPMO, WAGG



    Dating/Sexual ("Standalone," contain some -none)
    A4.2, AE, AFA, APC, Chikara, EE, Perception, Pmax, PPA, RM, TE,

    WAGG-N

    Mix/Combo (products designed for mixing or cover, or mixes of above products)
    NPA, Pheros (?),

    PI
    ====================

    Include in the post some basic data (near the top of the post), such as if you are Male

    or Female and your age. Could also help if you mention how long you've been using pheromone products. Other

    information you may feel relevant is welcome but totally optional and at your discretion. Examples: height, weight,

    body type/build, personality, active or sedentary, etc. Feel free to edit your post to make updates.



    ==========
    UPDATE 5/5/05
    "Ethnicity" has also been suggested. Again, your option.

    Also:

    Diet (what you eat) may play a role in the results. Please consider mentioning if you are "vegetarian," "vegan,"

    havy seafood eater, meat and potatoes only, etc. type.

    ==========

    Also: to prevent confusion please write

    out the full name of the product rather than use abbreviations. You can add side comments in your lists, like

    dosage/application amounts, or if it worked best in smokey bars or at informal lunches. Try to stay primarily with

    single products, as I'm aiming primarily at new users or those of us with limited budgets. Make a separate list for

    any mixes/combos. Overall, try to keep it brief, simple, and to the point. This is a summary, not a detailed

    report.

    I'm hoping this will serve as a good starting place to decide what may work best. Instead of asking

    "I'm a 19 year old guy what will work for me," you could look through this thread to find others of your gender in

    your age range (and maybe compare other listed personal attributes) and see what has worked for them. The Product

    Guide and Pherolibrary really don't cover these individual personal aspects. Hopefully this will save time, money,

    and the crush of new threads being created by users looking for advice.

    Let's give it a go.



    REMINDER (4/28/05): Please spell out the names of products that may be less well-known! Common abbreviations like

    SOE, AE, TE, etc. are usually fine! Remember this is for "newbies" as well as more experienced users. Thanks!



    Update 2/1/06

    Have decided to ask you to add blood type to stats. And if you can, give at least an

    approximation of age by listing year of birth (rounded to whatever you feel comfortable revealing).




    Thanks
    Last edited by Rbt; 02-01-2006 at 07:38 PM. Reason: Update 02/01/06

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    I'll start it off with my own

    listing:

    Stats: Male, 50+ years old (b. approx 1950), "single", 5'10", stocky/extra pounds, easygoing,

    moderately active. Ethnicity: English/German ancestry.

    Diet: "typical" American (meat, veggies, pizza). No

    seafood, no spicy foods. No alcoholic beverages.

    Blood type: O+

    Began using pheromone products February

    2005

    Social/Business

    #1 Scent of Eros (SOE) scented male roll-on and gel (12"-14" or about 1/3 to 1/2

    pack divided wrists & neck) moderate to good results

    #2 Alpha A314 (a314) - nothing *strongly* positive noted,

    but at least not negative. Have noticed what I would call a "follow response." Am considering using regularly as a

    "foundation." Also seems to "moderate" bad reactions I was getting to -none heavy products (sorta like a "control

    rod").

    #3 Pheromol Factor (PF) - nice "something to wear" scent. No obvious reactions, but not really expecting

    much.



    Dating/Sexual

    #1 Alter Ego (AE) scented male liquid (1 to 2 drops divided wrists & neck)

    Good results

    #2 Chikara (C7) scented male spray (2 sprays divided wrists & neck) Moderate to good results

    #3

    Perception, with and without provided scent (spray and gel versions) -no discernable reactions no matter what dosage

    or cover scent, but it does extend "life" of colognes. Have concluded it is not for me. Did get a possible "age

    related" (youth) comment when used a full gel packet once.

    #4 Pheromax (spray), with Pheros as cover. - Tested

    at funeral wake and seemed to give positive, friendly, calming results. Also used in combo with a314 (and Pheros as

    cover scent), similar results to above in social setting.

    Used by itself on some clothing, I do think the

    "calming effects" of the A-1 content did work. My main target was rather "mellow." Have not noticed any "depressed"

    feelings in self as reported by some others when using A-1 products.


    Mixes/Combos

    #1 New Pheromone

    Additive men (NPA) (one fingertip dab split -neck near ears, used with Scent of Eros and Chikara, or Cool Water

    cologne) -got bad reactions. Failure. Will be trying in future with "modifiers" like a314.

    #2 Primal Instinct

    for men (PI/m) (one fingertip dab split -neck near ears, used with Scent of Eros) -got bad reactions. Failure. (but

    see note below)

    UPDATE NOTE: tried 2 drops PI along with 2 drops a314 with a subject that in the past gave worst

    reaction to PI alone and I *did not* get a bad reaction. Can't call it overly positive at this time, but at least

    wasn't negative/failure as before.

    #3 The Edge liquid (TE) (as in Beginner's Kit) - have used in combo in

    small amounts with other various products. No noticable effects either positive or negative as yet.


    All worn

    in business or casual environments except where noted. No clubs, etc. These are results to date. Still testing. Also

    have WAGG (untested as yet), TAA sampler, KZI sampler (insufficient data to make comments as yet).
    Last edited by Rbt; 02-01-2006 at 07:52 PM. Reason: updated 02/01/06

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    stats: 25/m, single, 5'9 160lbs,

    3-4 years of phero usage

    Social: Soe 6-10 inches, Chikara 1 spray (latest

    version)

    Sexual/Mixing/Combo's

    1) 1-2 dabs of npa/m, 1 spray of Chikara

    2) WKM 4 drops with

    added water all over my chest, 2 drops spread out on throad area, sometimes added 1 drop of AE/M

    3) AE/m 4

    drops, 1 spread on wrists, 2 on throad area with 1 drop split behind ears

    4) Npa/m 2 dabs, Npa/w 1 dab, Soe

    or Chikara

    Depending how I feel I will sometimes add WAGG to the mix

    I currenty use #1 and will stick

    to it till I feel like playing around testing something new

    I have owned the majority of the products sold on

    here, but the listed above are the ones I enjoyed the most.

    I also own PI/M, dont use it currently in

    combo's (only when I make WKM it gets used)
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    Nice idea for a thread, Rbt!



    Stats: Male, 25 years old, single, 5'8, muscular build, active, and have been using pheromone

    products since end of January as well.

    Social: Alter Ego, between three and four drops, spread

    around neck and occasionally face. Good results!

    Dating/Sexual: 1.) Chikara and NPA 5:1 mix

    sprayed from atomizer; 1-1 1/2 sprays(neck)
    2.) Chikara Sprayed on directly, to neck; 1-2

    full sprays

    Worn in either club, bar, or work environment. Hits from all three products mentioned, see my

    results thread for detailed description of application and analyzation.

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    stats:

    Male, 24, single bartender, 5'11" , 160lbs athletic build, using pheromones about 1 1/4 years.



    social: 1) Soe gels 1/4- 1/2 packet
    2) perception 1 light spray



    sexual: 1) perception 1 1/2 sprays
    2) AE gels 1/4- 1/2 packet

    combo:

    1) soe1/4 packet and 1 spray perception to chest
    2) AE gels 1/4 pack and soe 1/2 pack



    disasters: 1) primal instinct- total disaster
    2) the edge
    3)

    chikara

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    Stats: Asian male, 50,

    5'8" , 140 lbs slim but toned (workout 5 days per week), pro musician, stylish dresser, ultra mellow persona, no

    red meat and only organic veggies, pheromone user since July '04.

    Social: 1) SOE unscented, two to

    three 4 inch stripes (usually with cover scent); 2) 3 or 4 sprays of Chikara

    Sexual: 1) 6-8 dabs of

    NPA; 2) 10-12 dabs of TE (both w/ cover scent); 3) 4 or 5 sprays of Heat. Heat works well but the scent gets old

    quickly (i.e., I get tired of it).

    Combo: 1) 6-8 dabs of NPA; two to three 4 inch stripes of SOE

    unscented; 2-4 drops A1 and Burberry Weekend or L'eau D'Issey. When on the run, I use an atomizer premixed with my

    combo and fav cologne of the week. The combo is my all time fav and best bet for female attention. Incidentally,

    even without 'mones, Burberry Weekend or L'eau D'Issey get me regular female

    compliments.

    Disasters: 1) Perception doesn't do a dang thang fo' me. Plus the scent component is

    terrible. 2) Alter Ego smelled so bad I had to immediately wash it off.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    stats: Male, 30,

    tall and thin in an athletic build, using pheromones on and off about 4 years. Rarely using just one product at the

    time..

    Standalone: 1) 2 drops of PI (Sexual) 2) 3-4 drops of AE (social and sexual)



    social: 1) Wagg-N 2 drops + 2 drops of AE. 2) Chikara, 1/2 gel pack + 2 drops of NPA

    3) 2 drops of NPA + 2 drops WAGG-N

    sexual: 3 drops of PI with 12 inches of SOE

    (awesome!) 2) 2 drops of PI, 3 drops of NPA + 12 inches od SOE (even more awesome!)



    disasters: 1) haven't had any yet..

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    I am 36 5'10" 140 slender but

    fit male.

    Social/business:
    Beta Androstenol, SOE (unscented), Musk with androstenol, Pheromol Factor



    Dating/Sexual:
    The Edge (TE), New Pheromone Additive, Passion Copulin Concentrate (PCC), Nexus, Alter Ego,

    Chikara, Pheromol Factor

    Mix/Combo:
    SOE + TE + Beta Androstenol + PCC
    Alter Ego + Beta Androstenol



    Disasters:
    Chikara + PCC

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    great info you guys..... im gettin

    several gel packs soon and will try to report in a newbies point of view

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    Personal Stats
    Age:

    22 years old (1983)
    Ethnicity: Asian/Pacific Islander
    Blood Type: O positive
    Height:

    5'11
    Weight: 175 lbs (atheltic build)

    Highly social, out going, active, and relaxed personality.



    I'm also a scorpio

    Social/Business Standalone
    -Scent of Eros: 12 Inches
    -Chikara: 3

    Sprays

    Sexual/Dating Standalone
    -New Pheromone Additive: 2-3 Drops

    Social/Business

    Mixes
    -Scent of Eros (8 inches)+Chikara (2 Sprays)+A314(1-2 Drops)
    -Scent of Eros (12 inches)+Realm (2

    Sprays)

    Sexual/Dating Mixes
    -Scent of Eros (8 Inches)+NPA (2 drops)+A1(4 drops at 1/2

    strength)+Realm to cover
    -Chikara (2 sprays)+A314(2 drops)+NPA (2 drops)
    ***note: I increase the dosages a bit

    when I hit up a club.

    Disasters
    -Primal Instinct (anything more than 1 drop)
    -Perception = no

    results, plus a leaky atomizer.
    -8 Drops of A1
    -WAGG + A1
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    STATS:

    20's 5'10 185 strong frame cut muscle dark hair blue/green eyes

    Personality:
    50% laid back cool
    25% alpha

    tell it like it is leader
    25% Jokster/sarcasm/keepin you on your toes

    Date/Sexual

    1) 2-3 drops Ae



    Increases in attention and intensity of that attention and flirty behavior

    (inconsistantly moderate-good)



    2) 2-3 drops Ae with 1/3 gel pack Soe

    Same as above but with an increase in the women fully initiating and

    approaching particularly increases in strangers doing so.

    (moderate to great)

    3) 1-3 sprays of a 1/7 mix of

    Npa with cologne and 1/4 -1/3 Soe.

    (inconsistant and negative - great)

    this is a tricky mix but if you get

    it right nothing can beat it. You are famous in the room.

    Social/Work

    Soe

    People will talk more

    approach and engage you and others and laugh and have fun more around you. Your jokes are funnier even if they are

    not that funny.

    (moderate-good)

    Chikara

    People will have more respect and care for you and be more

    likely to be honest. There may be a INTENSE sexual side to this but I must test more. If it does I think it is only

    with a certain type of woman (alpha confident nurture type)

    (no difference-good)



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    Extensive upcoming testing to Chikara and Perception.

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    UPDATE:

    I've been a fan of

    Japanese anime for a while and noticed that blood type seems to be a big thing in Japan, and have seen various

    references to blood type differences in other areas (eg weight control diets). Based on this I've decided to ask

    users who post here to include Blood Type (if known) in their stats. (If you've already posted something here, you

    can just go back and EDIT your old post, not make a new posting).

    Also, to help keep things "current" over time,

    instead of listing your age, please include your year of birth. You can round to whatever you feel comfortable in

    revealing. Ballpark approximations are fine. I am going to assume that those who read these postings can do basic

    math to determine the posters age. (Think positive...)


    And hey! New forum members! Please post YOUR results

    here too!

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbt
    UPDATE:

    I've been

    a fan of Japanese anime for a while and noticed that blood type seems to be a big thing in Japan, and have seen

    various references to blood type differences in other areas (eg weight control diets). Based on this I've decided

    to ask users who post here to include Blood Type (if known) in their stats. (If you've already posted something

    here, you can just go back and EDIT your old post, not make a new posting).

    Also, to help keep things "current"

    over time, instead of listing your age, please include your year of birth. You can round to whatever you feel

    comfortable in revealing. Ballpark approximations are fine. I am going to assume that those who read these postings

    can do basic math to determine the posters age. (Think positive...)


    And hey! New forum members! Please post

    YOUR results here too!

    Thanks
    I'm an anime fan myself and always wondered what the significance of

    knowing what even the most insignificant characters' blood types are. anyway, I updated my info, and added a new

    "disaster" mix.

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    Blood type may play a key role

    - especially in combination with your diet. There is a lot more literature coming out now discussing this

    relationship although I have not seen anything at the hard and fast "peer review" level. I am around

    chemistry-minded people a lot who are paying attention to this.

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    Personal

    Stats
    caucasian 24 years old 5'9 175lbs moderate build
    diet: moderate no fast food or soda lots of green tea

    and coffee, smoker
    Only 2months experience with mones
    I may act a bit alpha/lonewolf. mild Clint Eastwood

    syndrome.

    Results
    SOE is the only thing that works so far sexual or social.
    Chikara love the scent but no

    results for 3 weeks.
    Perception may work but not enough testing. ok results

    NPA SOE Chikara TE and Pherlure are

    all in my collection but I dont have enough "data" on NPA or Pherlure yet. I may never get to them SOE has really

    rocked for me standalone

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