Couplins roundup Spring 2005

[gfunk]

Hello

friends!

I've been reading some older posts and discussions regarding the use of couplins by men. This

issue doesn't seem to have great documentation, and lately there doesn't seem to have been much posts about this

at all.

I would really want to check this out, as the idea of maybe getting the treatment you get from other

females when you're in a relationship sounds like a killer concept. This would surely enlighten those of us who are

tempted to try this out.

I've read that Pheros is supposed to include couplins, and when I tried Chikara I

swore that I kept smelling pussy!! It has to be effectful in some way I do suspect...



I would like to use this opportunity to ask you guys and gals to post up your theories, opinions and comments on

the use of couplins by men. Let's try to gather all of our precious experience and knowledge to try to come closer

at shedding more light at it's effect when worn by men.

Cheers!

[InACharmedLife]

To be very honest, I

think men wearing copulins is a bad idea. In nature, men don't produce copulins. There's a reason for that. I

sincerely doubt that heterosexual women will be at all attracted to copulins.
I think you should employ synthetic

pheromones to augment your NATURAL pheromones, which are those naturally produced in human males.

[belgareth]

Charmed is probably right. The

few times I tried wearing copulins they caused me no end of trouble with women. I gave it up very quickly and gave

my bottle of EW to a lady on the forum.

[Gegogi]

I used EW many times and can't

say it helped or hurt. So, I stopped using it and didn't miss a thing. I've gotten the best results using SOE and

NPA (or TE).

[surfs_up]

the recipe is: one bottle of PCC poured into one 8 oz. (4 oz. works well too) bottle of massage

oil.... this is unusual, one time it added a fine cucumber fragrance, another time, it quickly statred to smell like

beer.... the first time, cucumber-ish, it was a fantastic mood enhancer for the entire massage... SOW has always

been too damn strong and acidic for me, perhaps also excessive in the heavy fatty acid fractions making the aroma

too musky for my taste.... acetic acid is too vinagary... the best formula would be propanoic/butyric/isobutyric

acids, perhaps a touch of indolene... much work remains to be done !

[ismellgood]

I have never used

copulins.
However, I have always noticed that I get the most signs of interest from unknown women in the (circa)

2 hours after having intercourse. I always thought this was due to the psychological factors (being sexual but not

at all interested), but it is possible that even after a mini-shower, some copulins remain and have an effect.

[TRock]

i'll be trying it out when it's

time for my new order. i've also been thinking about this lately.

I would really want to check this

out, as the idea of maybe getting the treatment you get from other females when you're in a relationship sounds

like a killer concept. This would surely enlighten those of us who are tempted to try this out.

i was

thinking the same thing.

[Tiger4]

Hello

friends!

I would like to use this opportunity to ask you guys and gals to post up your theories, opinions

and comments on the use of couplins by men. Let's try to gather all of our precious experience and knowledge to try

to come closer at shedding more light at it's effect when worn by men.

Cheers!

It's

interesting because was just thinking about this same issue. I've been using PCC for quite some time and have had

some reactions from it that warrant further investigation and experimentatioin.

I've had quite a few positive

results from using PCC in conjunction with other pheromones such as nol, but the results I've got from using it

alone have been hard to explain or put my finger on. When using PCC alone around other men, it makes them more

aggressive but other times they started acting really goofey or silly around me.

I've used PCC alone numerous

times and have had some women give me a subtle, expressionless gaze and other times they seemed more assertive with

me. When using PCC with nol, I've had women and girls flirt with me. Once, I had this woman in the apparel

department in a retail store get rather aggressive and suggestive with me. I told her I don't know what size I

wear and so after I tried on a pair of pants, on she aggressively grabbed at my belt around my stomach and snatched

me into her (I kid you not!). When she did this, her eyes lit up as if she wanted to do more to me. Then she said

"that's seems like a pretty good fit hun".

I strongly suspect that Chikara has copulins in it because I've

used it with PCC and felt really jumpy, agitated and anxious which is what I feel like when using too much PCC

alone.

Lately, I've been trying out various combos with PCC as the main ingredient and have gotten some pretty

good results. PCC with nol, beta-nol, SOE, TE or variations of them work well. I have yet to try PCC with AE or

NPA.

The theory behind using copulins to attact women is that when a women picks the copulins up, it

subconsciously triggers certain memories or changes in neural pathways. Biologically speaking, changes in neural

pathways cause changes in behavior and mood. When this happens, the woman is more than likely in a mood where she

is having sex or is around others having sex. The more the woman associates sex with the copulins, the more

powerful the effect. This may explain why women tend to get wet while wearing copulins.

I will continue to

experiment with copulins. Do you experiment with them as well? Maybe we can work together and share our results?

[Gegogi]

I strongly suspect that

Chikara has copulins in it because I've used it with PCC and felt really jumpy, agitated and anxious which is what

I feel like when using too much PCC alone.

Hmm, I don't smell any in Chikara. Even a small amount in

the mix will start to take over the Chikara scent.

[goodguy]

I've tried PCC with AE and

found no difference in the reactions from just AE alone. I've also tried PI with PCC same thing. It might be

because I don't apply too mcuh of the PCC to get reactions- frankly, I don't like the watermelon scent. I have two

bottles (the place I used to get my mones form screwed me over then sent me a bottle I didn't even want instead of

the two products I ordered). I might try larger dosages just to get rid of it, but I need to find a cover scent that

will go over the "girly" watermelon scent of PCC. As for personal reactions- when I put a little PCC under my nose

it does tend to make me a little more flirty. Like I said I don't use a lot because I don't like the scent.

[silksand]

The copulin products sold here

are great; as a woman I really like wearing them. PCC has a pretty feminine fruity scent, though it fades quickly

and should be easy to cover. EW is definitely pure womanly nether-regions.

As far as men wearing them, I

think that's an iffy proposition. Smelling like you just had sex may have some advantages but I'd expect they'd

be limited. You'd have to try it to be sure, but theoretically it doesn't sound promising to me. Men's

skin/hair/juices smell different than women's and in general women appreciate that difference.



Having a man walk around wearing your OWN intimate juices is a pretty personal, bonding thing.

Having him appear already sporting some other woman's (or generic female) juices is not that appealing really.

[belgareth]

Especially if he and she are in

a monogamous relationship. That's where I got into

trouble.

[gfunk]

silksand , I challenge you to try your PCC on a man in your trusted circle if you

could please? If you have a man or a friend that you could ask to try wearing it, without you wearing any, to see

how you're reactions from it would be! That would be VERY useful indeed!...

I'd not want to make women having

conscous impressions that I've had sex, that's just nasty in a bad way. However, my theory is that there might be

a chemical reaction when worn by men that differs from when worn by women. Also it might have a powerful

psychological effect on the wearer that turns his normal "desperate" sign on the forehead into "taken", thus all the

women come running (in double meaning). Anyway, it would be incredibly useful to be able to use your nose to be the

judge of that!

So being single might be a good thing when trying out this then Bel . The EW is supposed to

smell like pussy, but PCC hopefully not->just giving the unconscious emotion of "belongs to someone

else". The feeling that so amazingly effectively makes women start chasing.

[silksand]

silksand , I challenge you to try your PCC on a man in your trusted

circle if you could please? If you have a man or a friend that you could ask to try wearing it, without you wearing

any, to see how you're reactions from it would be! That would be VERY useful indeed!...

If that

occasion ever arises, I'll be sure to post on it, but it's not high on my list of pheromonal priorities or

possibilities, I'm afraid. I'd like my husband to wear some -none or -rone for me, but he's not very interested

in playing with pheromones on himself, and there is no other male in proximity who'd be in a position to be my

guinea pig. Sorry - I guess I can't help with your experiments! It will be interesting to see what comes of it,

though.

I do wonder, parenthetically, why certain posters here specifically ask for female opinions and then

want to argue with or discount the ones that are offered?

[wood elf]

I do wonder,

parenthetically, why certain posters here specifically ask for female opinions and then want to argue with or

discount the ones that are offered?

We do not have the good grace to have opinions that concur

with their own. By definition we must be in error for that reason. It is always so depressing to learn how little I

truly know about being a woman. It must be a terrible burden to have so much knowledge in a world rife with

ignorance.

[tim929]

The understanding I have after

reading many older postings,is that women sense the copulins and get the impression that a man is "taken." As a

result they will tend to act on that as an indication of social validation in her absence and try to knock off a

piece too.Something I have sen many times is that when I am with a woman,I get more attention from women.I had lunch

with an attractive co-worker on afternoon and the waitress wouldnt stop making eyes at me.The only thing between me

and my co-worker was that I lost a bet and owed her lunch...but being with a very attractive woman got some

attention...my understanding is that copulins will can in some cases have the same effect but in the absence of the

attractive counterpart.In logical terms it sorta makes sense...like wearing a wedding ring (I have done that too and

it works sometimes)Correct me if I am way off base cuz I have never tried copulins befor...

[TRock]

me and my buddy have this friend,

guaranteed top 10 hottest girl at our university. we went to spring break with her and every girl looked at us. my

friend claims to have laid this chick soley from being friends with hb 10, becuase this other chick was jealous of

her.

[InACharmedLife]

Guys, guys, guys...you

are seriously barking up the wrong tree with the copulins thing.
If copulins were going to be helpful in getting

you a mate, nature would have supplied men with copulins.

We women sometimes flirt more with men wearing wedding

rings because it's clear to us that we won't have to go another step beyond flirting. There won't be any

uncomfortable repercussions to our flirting, because married men are "safe", i.e. they aren't going to ask us out

(usually). We don't have to "pay the piper" and deal with turning down a subsequent date invitation as a result of

our fun with flirting. Get it? The wedding ring is a "flirt for fun for free" card. In general...there are always

women who get kicks out of breaking up marriages, but for the sake of good advice, what I've explained is usually

how it is.

Okay, some women see a man with a very attractive female and think "he must have SOMETHING if he got

her", but at the end of the day, show us the something or you're history. In other words, you still have to back up

the initial impression to be successful with women. Or, perhaps even we feel the ol' "I don't want him, you can't

have him" twinge when an ex-boyfriend is seen out with a new woman. Still, at the end of the day, we usually get

over that twinge and remember why we left you in the first place. So, there's gotta be substance behind the initial

and fleeting impression. Aside from all of these possibilities, when we see a beautiful girl with a below-average

guy, we are MORE likely to be thinking "what's she doing with that TOAD?" It can backfire and usually does.
So, I

honestly don't think this is your best line of attack.

Women want the alpha male. No, not the puffed up,

obnoxious wanne-be alpha male, we want the real deal. The successful,(and that means many things and in many

different ways---simply successful at what you do and at who you are), smart, socially significant male with

presence and confidence is the alpha male we want.

My best advice is to augment your natural pheromones with

synthetics of your natural pheromones, and work on creating the aura of alpha male. Lose the copulins...we don't

want men who smell of EW---which does not smell like a woman, by the way. we don't want men smelling of female

pheromones. Seriously, we don't.
We want men who smell like men, both on conscious and subconscious levels. We

want men who act like men. Because that's simply how females are wired.

[InternationalPlayboy]

Guys, guys, guys...you are seriously barking up the wrong tree with the copulins thing.
If

copulins were going to be helpful in getting you a mate, nature would have supplied men with copulins.

I agree. I have both PCC and EW. I bought them out of curiosity more than anything else. I do

like to smell PCC, it gives me a lift and turns me on a bit. I sometimes put a bit in my moustache for my pleasure

or before exercise.

But I wouldn't wear either product while actively seeking a chance to meet women, just

due to an experience I had with a friend of mine.

I've known this woman, who lives in a different city, for

20 years now and we became friends 10 years ago. There is a lot of flirting between us but I'm ambivalent about a

sexual relationship with her. I am very attracted physically to her, but I wouldn't want to do anything to mess up

our friendship either. Still, I experiment with different mones around her.

Last year, I was visiting her

city and had just bought an array of products from Love Scent. I had just seen her the day or so before. On that

day, she was *very* glad to see me and her body language was very open. On this day though, I had been playing with

PCC before I saw her. I hadn't applied it intentionally, but was just smelling it from the bottle. I had removed

the roll-on applicator and probably spilled some of the PCC on my hands, maybe getting some on my face.

When

I saw her a few hours later, she seemed more distant and her body language was closed. I think the PCC had an

influence in her behavior.

In contrast a few years earlier, I had gone out to dinner with her and she kept

mentioning how good I looked that night, though she had seen me a few days earlier. Between those two days, I had

hooked up with a woman whom I had met over the Internet and had an afternoon of "fun." This was the day before we

went out to dinner, so I'm sure all the copulins had been washed off in the two or three showers and jacuzzi

sessions I had before then. I think it was just the fact that I was feeling good because I had just gotten laid that

made me appear more attractive.

[Tiger4]

Guys, guys,

guys...you are seriously barking up the wrong tree with the copulins thing.
If copulins were going to be helpful in

getting you a mate, nature would have supplied men with copulins.

That's just your opinion.

Women want the alpha male. No, not the puffed up, obnoxious wanne-be alpha male, we want

the real deal. The successful,(and that means many things and in many different ways---simply successful at what you

do and at who you are), smart, socially significant male with presence and confidence is the alpha male we want.



My best advice is to augment your natural pheromones with synthetics of your natural pheromones, and work on

creating the aura of alpha male. Lose the copulins...we don't want men who smell of EW---which does not smell like

a woman, by the way. we don't want men smelling of female pheromones. Seriously, we don't.

Copulins

actually increase a man's testosterone level hence increasing his natural pheromone output. The odor of PCC is

barely detectable and it does tend to make me feel handsome, significant and smart which are all alpha male traits.

We want men who smell like men, both on conscious and subconscious levels. We want men

who act like men. Because that's simply how females are wired.

What you're saying makes sense, but

wearing copulins in no way makes me feel like a sissy, nor do I smell like one. In fact wearing PCC makes me feel

almost the same way none makes me feel which is more assertive and aggressive. This is why I have to be careful on

how much I use and put some nol on alone with it.

[belgareth]

Charmed,

Thank you. You

said it very well and I believe you have it right in every detail.

So being single might be a good

thing when trying out this then Bel . The EW is supposed to smell like pussy, but PCC hopefully not->just giving

the unconscious emotion of "belongs to someone else". The feeling that so amazingly effectively makes

women start chasing.

I think I'll put my money on the woman's opinion.

[tounge]

I

think I'll put my money on the woman's opinion.

Ahh,I think I'll put money on the social

proof theory,and take the pot most of the time.

I don't know if Couplins are effective or not. Or even if

synthetic mones are. I do know that the more women I go out or am seen with, the more that seem to fall into my

lap.

As far as women flirting more with married men, and married men being safer to flirt with. Pure

poppycock. Quite a few of my married guy friends are cracking another honeypot other than their loving spouse. As a

matter of fact I really think they get more p-tang than my single buds.

This debate always seems to pop up

here every so often. And most of the women just can't seem to buy the social proof theory at all. Yet it always

seems to prove out to be true from what I have experienced and seen with my own eyes.

Many years ago, an old

wise friend(since deceased) told me --- "Son, don't read a women's upper lips when she talks, but pay attention to

the lower lips when she takes action."

There is a lesson in there.

[belgareth]

Ahh,I think I'll

put money on the social proof theory,and take the pot most of the time.

I don't know if Couplins are effective

or not. Or even if synthetic mones are. I do know that the more women I go out or am seen with, the more that seem

to fall into my lap.

As far as women flirting more with married men, and married men being safer to flirt with.

Pure poppycock. Quite a few of my married guy friends are cracking another honeypot other than their loving spouse.

As a matter of fact I really think they get more p-tang than my single buds.

This debate always seems to pop up

here every so often. And most of the women just can't seem to buy the social proof theory at all. Yet it always

seems to prove out to be true from what I have experienced and seen with my own eyes.

Many years ago, an old

wise friend(since deceased) told me --- "Son, don't read a women's upper lips when she talks, but pay attention to

the lower lips when she takes action."

There is a lesson in there.

If you say so. That's not been my

experience but that could be a result of different playgrounds and goals. I only buy the social proof theory to the

point of when you open your mouth. Once you get to that point you'd better be able to back up the first impression.

Otherwise your out of the game.

For me it worked exactly the opposite. When my wife and I split up opportunities

seemed to pop up everywhere. That could have been the result of my getting out more, not being willing to sit at

home and feel sorry for myself. I can't tell you how many female associates noticed when I stopped wearing a

wedding ring and encouraged or solicited my company.

[Visionary7903]

I totally agree with the

whole social proof thing... Social proof is probably as powerful an attractant to women as mones... I have seen it

many times that guys who have a valuable girl (good looking and/or good personality) seem to capture the interest of

women much quicker than other equally good looking and nice men. I myself definitely seem to get more interest from

women after they have seen me with another girl... This has resulted in not just capturing the interest but also

often in sex...

Sure a guy has to have the goods (as in charm and other positive features) after the initial

interest from the woman awestruck by this guy having a valuable partner... However there is no way to get women to

fall over u without talking to them unless uve got an awesome natural pheromone signature, ur famous, great looking

or a multi millionaire maybe...

Visionary

[tounge]

Ahh,I think

I'll put money on the social proof theory,and take the pot most of the time.

I don't know if Coupons are

effective or not. Or even if synthetic mones are. I do know that the more women I go out or am seen with, the more

that seem to fall into my lap.

As far as women flirting more with married men, and married men being safer to

flirt with. Pure poppycock. Quite a few of my married guy friends are cracking another honeypot other than their

loving spouse. As a matter of fact I really think they get more p-tang than my single buds.

This debate always

seems to pop up here every so often. And most of the women just can't seem to buy the social proof theory at all.

Yet it always seems to prove out to be true from what I have experienced and seen with my own eyes.

Many years

ago, an old wise friend(since deceased) told me --- "Son, don't read a women's upper lips when she talks, but pay

attention to the lower lips when she takes action."

There is a lesson in there.

Wow, here is one

of my profound posts some 5 years later. And I stand by it now as I did then. As a matter of fact, I've seen it

more relevant in the last few years as it ever was.

[idesign]

and I was disappointed that your

clever irony re: "honey" flew over her head...

[Defguy]

Wow, here

is one of my profound posts some 5 years later. And I stand by it now as I did then. As a matter of fact, I've seen

it more relevant in the last few years as it ever was.

Hey Tounge what do you mean by this? Are

you talking about your belief in Social Proof Theory being strengthened or what?

And



Are there any updates on whether or not Copulins have the desired "Bandwagon

Affect" on men? there are no Threads on this subject since 2006 lol and its 2010 right now

[tim929]

Charmed...I am in almost total

agreement with you.Once a guy is seen with an attractive woman and she wonders what so special about him...he had

better have something to fall back on.Otherwise he is gonna get the boot.As for the wedding ring...that one has

worked for me more than once.Alot more women than you might think are willing to get involved with a married man.

[Gegogi]

We women sometimes flirt

more with men wearing wedding rings because it's clear to us that we won't have to go another step beyond

flirting. There won't be any uncomfortable repercussions to our flirting, because married men are "safe", i.e. they

aren't going to ask us out (usually).

Hmm, I used to think that, but my experiences have been very

different. Lots of women--especially married women--are looking for an affair with a married man. Perhaps they just

need a little bump and expect to escape without commitment. Whatever the reason, I certainly had more women coming

after me when I was married. Now that I'm single, I have to work it more!

[InACharmedLife]

----Lots of

women--especially married women--are looking for an affair with a married man. ----

That may be true of certain

married women in certain situations, and surely there are some single women who don't have a problem going out with

married men. But the advice I've given is speaking in general, describing what usually happens, which is the best

way to advise someone. In other words, while there are exceptions, it isn't the tack with the best odds.



Neither is wearing copulins.