As soon as she hears you are
asking about her she will have an advantage over you. Back off and let her come to you.
belgareth
You areSounds a
little like a prima donna. You sure you want to bother with her? There are so many fine women running around loose
it seems a waste of effort to spend this much energy on one that might not be worth the trouble.
right possibly a prima donna and many other women around. The thing is I'm actually not focusing as much time and
energy on her as you think. Yes I've been wondering what the hell she is thinking the last few days, but I could
also care less if I didn't see her again.
What is boggling my mind the most (honest, not putting that much
focus on her) is her recent acts, the winks, sexy and sometimes shy smiles, bending over right in front of me,
coming onto treadmills right next to me when all the other treadmills are open, coming into the same area to train
as I am, talking to other people/guys about me saying that I'm hot, talking to other women in the gym and then
giving me looks in my eyes and checking me out with other women.
And why she does not give me much of an
opportunity to have meaningful conversations with her or ask anything about me while she talks to other people.
I just want to know why she is doing this or if she is just playing with my head (IMO that is what she is doing to
get my attention she gets from the other men).
That's the situation. Once I can find out what she thinks, than
I will make a move. Could she be intimidated by me or shy to speak to me? I know she isn't shy to talk with other
men.
As I said I've never encountered this with anyone women I've dated or had sexual relations with.
Once
I know what's going on in her head (and it's obvious I'm not going to be able to find out from her directly, I
will make my move)
Thanks again.
As soon as she hears you are
asking about her she will have an advantage over you. Back off and let her come to you.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
HeOriginally Posted by belgareth
AIN'T listening!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
No, probably not. I'm used to
talking to myself though, I have kids.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I've stayed away from this
thread because I'm the last one who should be criticizing anyone about overanalysis and not asking a girl out, but
after all of this talk I don't get it. I consider myself one of the most clueless and conservative people that
ever walked the earth when it comes to gauging girls' interest in me...but if I got a few winks here and a few
smiles there on a consistent basis, even I would be walking tall and approaching this woman with confidence. I also
would never go around and ask someone else if she liked me...what, am I in high school? I'm an adult...I should at
least try to act like one despite the inner child wanting to get love, attention, and validation from the outside
world.
You want to ask because you want to know. You want to have the sure thing. Life is uncertain. Deal
with it. If you ask, you will not only have uncertainty but just shown that you can't handle it. I say this not
to insult but to teach what I cannot grasp myself most of the time. This is where Bel's comment kicks in. She
finds out, she has the sure thing and you don't. Where does that put you? Even worse than before. You tip your
hand, she knows what you've got, and she rules the table. The difference between that and asking her directly:
you're tipping your hand, but you're betting high stakes and showing you've got guts. In the first example,
you're showing a weak hand. In the second, you've got something (or are bluffing as is the case with "fake it
until you make it" folks), and it's her choice to call you on it. In this card game, however, high stakes show
worthiness, and women want you to raise the stakes.
No, I don't watch the World Series of Poker, but I'm
getting ready to go to Atlantic City...so cut me some slack on the poker metaphors.
For the love of Ralph, assume that they are! Or at least don't assume thatOriginally Posted by Officer Pancherelli
they're not. (Confusion say.)
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
Pancho, I am with you...........I
don't get why he doesn't ask her out. No wonder it has been months.
"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
--Benjamin Franklin
IOriginally Posted by belgareth
agree with you here and I will back off and let her come to me. But at least she will know that I am in fact
interested. Maybe it's what Wood Elf said, she thinks I'm not interested. But I think I've made my intentions
more than clear. Trying to have meaningful conversations, trying to find out what she does with her free time,
checking her out, winking at her and so on.
Pancho1188
I've stayed away from this thread because
I'm the last one who should be criticizing anyone about overanalysis and not asking a girl out, but after all of
this talk I don't get it. I consider myself one of the most clueless and conservative people that ever walked the
earth when it comes to gauging girls' interest in me...but if I got a few winks here and a few smiles there on a
consistent basis, even I would be walking tall and approaching this woman with confidence. I also would never go
around and ask someone else if she liked me...what, am I in high school? I'm an adult...I should at least try to
act like one despite the inner child wanting to get love, attention, and validation from the outside world.
Well I know what you mean. But the winks just started last week when I received my Chikara. So any interaction I
had with her before was just hello's and little smiles. I did find it strange she went on treadmills right next to
me when many of the other ones were free, yet she still chose not to talk much while next to me
I know what you
mean about being in highschool. But it's her who's acting that way talking about me to other females and another
guy. So as Wood Elf I think said, it's a game and I've chosen to play. Besides she doesn't exactly give me the
opportunities to find out for myself
I totally agreeYou want to ask because you want to know. You want to have the sure
thing. Life is uncertain. Deal with it. If you ask, you will not only have uncertainty but just shown that you
can't handle it. I say this not to insult but to teach what I cannot grasp myself most of the time. This is where
Bel's comment kicks in. She finds out, she has the sure thing and you don't. Where does that put you? Even worse
than before. You tip your hand, she knows what you've got, and she rules the table. The difference between that and
asking her directly: you're tipping your hand, but you're betting high stakes and showing you've got guts. In the
first example, you're showing a weak hand. In the second, you've got something (or are bluffing as is the case
with "fake it until you make it" folks), and it's her choice to call you on it. In this card game, however, high
stakes show worthiness, and women want you to raise the stakes.
No, I don't watch the World Series of Poker, but
I'm getting ready to go to Atlantic City...so cut me some slack on the poker metaphors.
with you. As I said the problem is she doesn't give me the opportunity to find out for myself as she doesn't say
much. I know this one isn't shy.
Or could she be too shy to talk to me? It's all just strange, so I'm going
to play my game. Once I find out, from my friend I will back off for sure and just keep it simple.
bjf
As I said she doesn't give me the opportunity. When she comes on the treadmill right next to me, I thinkPancho, I am with you...........I don't get why he doesn't ask her out. No wonder it has been months.
she comes there b/c she wants to talk to me. Yet when I talk, she makes it clear she doesn't want to say
much
That is where I'm left confused.
Had I been able to have even just 2 meaningful conversations in which
I could've found something out about her, I would've already asked her out no doubt. I need to have a few positive
conversations with someone before I ask them out. If they don't want to talk much or they don't ask me anything
about myself, I start assuming they aren't interested.
And in this case, I think she could very well be just
playing with my head to get my attention. If that's the case, I'd rather know ahead of time before I put myself on
the line and ask her out. If she's only about head games, I don't want to be looking like a fool.
If you go through life always tryin to have a MEANINGFUL conversations, you're in deep poopoo!Originally Posted by Sigfreed
Especially in the gym! meaningful conversations, hmmmmm, can you tell me what would go on that list?
Start ignoring the flake, and once she comes to you for her daily dose of attention, ask her anything
you want! You're hooked, and without a doubt, she knoooooows it. You're looking for the easy system, but with your
head where it's at, you won't find it. You've given her your nuts. Get your balls back, and act
accordingly.
Hey, you can call her parents and ask them all about her, yes?
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
I doubt I could call her parents LOL. She's ArabicOriginally Posted by MOBLEYC57
and from what I've read from a couple of members in this thread, the family is usually very strict over their
daughters especially when it comes to them being involved with non Arabic men.
I'm not saying that all Arabic
families are this way as I have several Arabic friends who are pretty layed back when it comes to such things, but
from what I've read here, a couple of the members said the girls brothers tried to attack them physically.
As
for being hooked, I know how it sounds but I really could care less if I saw her again. I just want to know what her
deal is and why she is talking about me to another guy and other women.
Well I'm basically keeping it simple
stupid (KISS method). Simple hello's and smiles. As I say I don't go out of my way to talk to her like the other
men do.
She is making me feel like I'm in highschool just as Pancho1188 said. It's what she is doing. Going
around talking to other women and a guy about me, checking me out from across the room either alond or with a
friend, coming on the treadmills right next to me and not saying much. To me she's playing games and acting like a
highschool girl.
We're adults for crying out loud. If she wants to know things about me, she should have the
cohones to ask me, not the treadmill guy who knows me. That's what I don't get.
Do you think she's shy to
come talk to me herself? B/c my impression of her is not the shy type.
But I really don't care if I see her
again or not. I just want to know why she's talking about me to another guy and other women saying I'm hot and
checking me out with them and not talking to me.
Just bizare, this is a very first experience for me. Even in
highschool my hisghschool sweetie didn't play these games.
Damnit, I've been missing that! Reading without my readingOriginally Posted by Sigfreed
glasses! Forget any and everything I've said! You have a whole new different kind of animal that
requires lots of research.
ARABIC = CONFUSION!
Good luck!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
if you've lived in other cultures and/or been with women who are grounded in other (non
anglo american) cultures you begin to discover that they have unexpected approaches to many social matters that we
take for granted. Middle Eastern cultures have the custom of speaking through intermediaries, in other words, what
we would consider straightforward they would consider rude or "not playing by the book".... there are frequently
traditional people who carry a message from one party to another... this makes a great deal of sense in cultures
which believe in arranged marriages and where the family honor is more significant that the individual. There would
be a diplomatic go-between person who knows how and when to approach another party and delicately raise the issue
without forcing it, so if either party does not think it is such a good idea or establish the relationship, there is
little loss of face. Even a modernized, westernized Middle Eastern person may feel like speaking through a third
party to sound out the situation (especially if there is some seriousness of intention) shows good manners and
proper social form. A second critical thing to understand is that Arabic people especially have much closer
intermarriage patterns as the norm than Americans do, marriages between cousins are considered normal, the foremost
concern is the solidarity of the tribe. If you create a problem for one member of the family, it is seen as a
challenge to the honor of the tribe.... and, btw, these are also "revenge cultures", where failure to take revenge
for an insult (or what is perceived as an insult) may be perceived as disgraceful for the whole family. Much of this
explains why the Middle East is a difficult place to establish harmony between faiths, sects within faiths,
political camps, the are all about turf and honor.
MobleyC57
I assume you're kidding?Damnit,
I've been missing that! Reading without my reading glasses! Forget any and everything I've said! You
have a whole new different kind of animal that requires lots of research.
ARABIC =
CONFUSION!
Good luck!
I'm very open minded towards
different nationalities as I've dated people from different religions and countries and most of my friends are of
different including Arabic, Palestinian, Greek, Jewish, Italian, Cuban, Irish, Dominican you name it.
Surfs_Up
I agree with you on this one. As my Ex was from Spain and her father was Jewish. Soif you've lived in other cultures and/or been with women who are grounded in other (non anglo american)
cultures you begin to discover that they have unexpected approaches to many social matters that we take for granted.
Middle Eastern cultures have the custom of speaking through intermediaries, in other words, what we would consider
straightforward they would consider rude or "not playing by the book".... there are frequently traditional people
who carry a message from one party to another... this makes a great deal of sense in cultures which believe in
arranged marriages and where the family honor is more significant that the individual. There would be a diplomatic
go-between person who knows how and when to approach another party and delicately raise the issue without forcing
it, so if either party does not think it is such a good idea or establish the relationship, there is little loss of
face. Even a modernized, westernized Middle Eastern person may feel like speaking through a third party to sound out
the situation (especially if there is some seriousness of intention) shows good manners and proper social form. A
second critical thing to understand is that Arabic people especially have much closer intermarriage patterns as the
norm than Americans do, marriages between cousins are considered normal, the foremost concern is the solidarity of
the tribe. If you create a problem for one member of the family, it is seen as a challenge to the honor of the
tribe.... and, btw, these are also "revenge cultures", where failure to take revenge for an insult (or what is
perceived as an insult) may be perceived as disgraceful for the whole family. Much of this explains why the Middle
East is a difficult place to establish harmony between faiths, sects within faiths, political camps, the are all
about turf and honor.
there was some conflict with my ex's family.
From what I read with Surf's_Up thread he believes it's possible
that her family background may be interfering with her approach towards me.
Does anyone else strongly believe
that this could be a problem?
Do any of you think I should not get involved with her b/c of her background? I have
nothing against people's nationalities, I'm mostly concered what types of problems could occur.
Yesterday I
saw her talking to the treadmill guy and the two of them were talking to an older man in his mid 40's or 50's with
a hat and moustache for about 20mins, maybe longer. I've never seen this gentleman before.
What I'm going to
say LOL would probably be crazy, but you never know b/c I know ppl that this sort of thing has happened to.
I'm
wondering could the older gentleman be her father and she came with him to talk to the treadmill guy about me
considering I talk to the treadmill guy so he knows me.
Unlikely but I have a friend who is going out with this
Italian girl and her family is strict. A few weeks ago when they first started dating before their first date my
friend's girlfriend had to sit down with her aunt (who was his boss so one family member knew him), the girls
Mother and the girl to talk so they could know him better. And he passed the test which was amazing b/c he isn't
Italian.
Pretty hardcore eh? I have total respect families who have these values.
But in all seriousness,
would it be just too difficult to be involved with her? I know for a fact that she is open minded and pretty
liberal, but I'm not sure about her family and considering she lives at home I have know idea.
No, I'm not kidding. Understanding one's culture and beingOriginally Posted by Sigfreed
open minded is two totally different animals. And, it's obvious that you don't understand, or you wouldn't be
here trying to see the answers.
If she was born and raised in America, she might have some of our ways, but if
not, that makes a difference. Reread SurfsUp post, and again, and again.
Personally, I wouldn't get
disappointed in her actions, it's not personal.
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
Count on it.Originally Posted by surfs_up
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
MobleyC57
I think she mayNo, I'm
not kidding. Understanding one's culture and being open minded is two totally different animals. And, it's obvious
that you don't understand, or you wouldn't be here trying to see the answers.
If she was born and raised in
America, she might have some of our ways, but if not, that makes a difference. Reread SurfsUp post, and again, and
again.
Personally, I wouldn't get disappointed in her actions, it's not personal.
have been born and raised over here as she from what I can see is pretty layed back and flirts with ppl of different
nationalities and cultures including her own Arabic culture.
I have learned a lot about different nationalities,
but my knowlege of the Arabic nationality is limited. I've only been able to learn some basics from my Arabic
friends and even they don't know everything b/c their parents were born and raised over here in North America.
Now that we've discussed this some, maybe her actions aren't personal. But they are confusing. And most parents
of different nationalities
(at least strict and orthodox parents) would prefer their daughters to be with one of
their own culture.
The Arabic friends that I have who's parents born and raised in north america have had mixed
marriages, and a few of the Arabic friends I have are dating non Arabic women and their parents don't mind or care
b/c they have mixed marriages.
So you think it's better not to be involved with her?
Holmes
Tiz expected.
Count on it.
I think I'm going to move on.
I don't know if it's a cultural issue reating to her Arabic nationality, if she's really playing hard to get, or
just concieted/attention seeker.
Today was too much. She came on the treadmill right next to me when there were
4 other ones available. So I assume she wants to talk and the treadmill guy wasn't there, I spoke to him on the
other side.
So I attempt to speak to her and at first she "didn't hear me" so I said hi how are you doing?
She said fine. I asked her if she was training late today and she said know as she's usually there earlier. I
asked her if she had a good weekend.
So I proceeded to ask her if she did anything special on the weekend and
she said no. I asked her what she normally likes to do on the weekend. She wasn't overly receptive. She just said
that she does different things like going for dinners or drinks. I asked her if they were usually last minute things
and she said yes.
I then said on Saturday my friends took me out for drinks and I came home at around 3:30am and
said that it was something I didn't do very often as I hadn't been out that late in a long time as I usually come
home by 1 or 2am and then I sleep.
I then asked her if she ever goes out very late every now and then. She says
it depends. At this moment I was about to ask her what she likes to do for fun and she cut me off saying she had to
concentrate on her running.
It is hard to talk and run at the same time, but I still got a bit of a cold feeling
from her. I said by to her when I finished and she just waved like she couldn't be bothered.
And when I walked
by the treadmills as I left I waved and was going to wink but when I saw that she wasn't even looking in my
direction
(I knew she saw me come out of the locker room) I just put my hand down and left and I was like WTF?
When I went to the juice bar there was this new girl who started there a couple of weeks ago that I was
flirting a bit with last Thursday. Last week I saw her put something on the grill to cook for a customer.
When I
got my oatmeal bar I jokingly said with a smile and wink "What were you cooking up over there trouble?" And she
laughed. Today I related back to that joke and I said "You're not cooking up any trouble today?" with a wink and
smile and she smiled. I asked her "what her favorite recipes where" and she said just trouble with a smile. I then
asked her "if it was A La Carte (single plate) or all you can eat?" with a smile and wink.
She really laughed at
that one and said it was both on the menu. So that lightened my day after the Arabic girl incident just earlier.
I have another question does it always mean someone is married or they have a boyfriend if they are wearing a
ring on their left ring finger? B/c this girl at the juice bar had a silvery looking ring on her left ring finger.
I've always thought that meant they were married or it was a ring their boyfriend gave them.
Thanks
Originally Posted by Pancho1188
You'd be
surprised at how many men do that. And not only that *whispering* the guy they ask to go tell the girl will hit on
the girl too. And they'll say it in a way that if you tell, they will say they were just joking. Ladies you know
what I am talking about.
That happened in a Seinfeld
episode. Jerry told Kramer about his new girlfriend being a hit-and-run driver. When Jerry tried to pay the
victim, an attractive girl he's always wanted to talk to, because his girlfriend wouldn't tell anyone that she did
it, the girl thought Jerry did it. Kramer used the situation as an excuse to talk to her and got a date.
It's hard going up saying you like someone, but it's so easy to talk to that same person when you know that
you're there because someone else likes her.
I had the hots for a woman at work aboutOriginally Posted by culturalblonde
18 years ago. I constantly talked about her to my co-workers and analyzed things, but was afraid to approach her.
After she joined my karate class, I finally broke the ice.
I was out of town for the weekend, when a local
food and wine event was announced. A cow-orker who was a macho type and kind of pushed his way around, moved in and
asked her out before I had a chance. I went to the event anyway, stag, and she told me in front of him that she
would have gone with me. But it was too late. My cow-orker wasn't attracted to her until I constantly obsessed
about her and took the first opportunity that came along. I was devastated.
From then on, there was a
love/hate rivalry between the cow-orker and myself. Sometimes we got along great, then suddenly we would clash
royally. Usually he would become hostile after using Smilax, a steroid-like substance, for awhile. But I never quite
forgave and forgot about him moving in on my "beloved" when my back was turned. (Nor forgotten my obsessive behavior
that led to it in the first place.)
So I'm assuming this is a bad thing right? Well in this case consideringOriginally Posted by culturalblonde
there's an Arabic culture difference, that sort of thing maybe more exceptable.
I agree, but didn't you say ppl of Arabic descent often useOriginally Posted by Pancho1188
approaches through other ppl dating wise?
Maybe it isn't the best idea, but this guy isOriginally Posted by InternationalPlayboy
getting a house with a hottie of his own and has marriage plans in the future. But then again I'm sadly seeing that
marriage for many ppl doesn't mean much anymore.
Well, things"Pancho, I am with
you...........I don't get why he doesn't ask her out. No wonder it has been months."
are never as simple as they may seem. I once flirted with a woman for months and knew without a doubt we were
mutually attracted to one another. I didn't ask her out because she told me she was married (I asked). Eventually
she asked me out and we went on to a long and passionate romance, even got got married a couple years later. It
turns out she was married but left him after 6 months, and hadn't seen him for 2 years. She didn't want to explain
the situation as it was complicated and she was rather ashamed. Apparently she couldn't afford a divorce and was
saving up!
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Actually, marriage was the furthest thing from his mind. He had married a woman from theOriginally Posted by Sigfreed
Marshall Islands a few years before and had a son before he left her. He left because he couldn't handle the
Marshallese culture where the woman dominated and ct caused him to constantly fight with his wife. He can never set
foot on the islands again as he tried to take his son with him when he left. She never signed the divorce papers, so
technically, he was still married.
The job he had with me he took after a year of unemployment. He was living
with a woman he met in California, at her parents' house! When his overseas money ran out and needed a job, he
moved here with his girlfriend and her kid from some other guy. She was a cutie! And at her suggestion, she would
pose topless for pictures in semi-public locations! My kind of girl.
She left him when he came home one night
after working out. He hadn't worked off all of the Smilax and had a roid rage when he saw her feeding her kid ice
cream. He spent the night in jail and when he got out, she was on her way back home. One of his complaints is that
she wouldn't get a job. Well, who mooched off of whose parents for a year?
This guy fit the pattern of other
bullies I've known in my life. I'm basically a meek guy and would get along with a bully until suddenly they would
turn on me, usually when I had something they wanted.
<Paul Harvey persona> And now, you know the rest of the
story. </Paul Harvey persona>
My point was that I spent so much energy analyzing and speaking about my
feelings and obsessions that I lost my chance and convinced someone else of the woman's value.
And as to the
statement from culturalblonde that I quoted in my previous post, I'm reminded of the story of Miles Standish, where
he sent John Aldren to tell the woman he was enamored that he liked her. She replied, "Why don't you speak for
yourself, John?"
Then he'll want to avoid both Chinese and Filipino women like the plague. They'll fight to"He left because he
couldn't handle the Marshallese culture where the woman dominated and ct caused him to constantly fight with his
wife."
the death but probably wear you down long before busting out the Kinsu.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
sigfreed give me the address of
this gym, where the arab girl works out.
i will go there and fuck her
lol
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Lovely Wendie
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what the fuck is a
Kinsu
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Prilosec help
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A large knife.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Gegogi
So she is now your wife? And she was still married to you but didn't tell you b/c she wasWell, things
are never as simple as they may seem. I once flirted with a woman for months and knew without a doubt we were
mutually attracted to one another. I didn't ask her out because she told me she was married (I asked). Eventually
she asked me out and we went on to a long and passionate romance, even got got married a couple years later. It
turns out she was married but left him after 6 months, and hadn't seen him for 2 years. She didn't want to explain
the situation as it was complicated and she was rather ashamed. Apparently she couldn't afford a divorce and was
saving up!
ashamed and saving for a divorce? At least she wasn't still sleeping with him while she was with you. Are you still
married to her?
Pretty interesting story, thanks for sharing.
InternationalPlayboy
Actually,
marriage was the furthest thing from his mind. He had married a woman from the Marshall Islands a few years before
and had a son before he left her. He left because he couldn't handle the Marshallese culture where the woman
dominated and ct caused him to constantly fight with his wife. He can never set foot on the islands again as he
tried to take his son with him when he left. She never signed the divorce papers, so technically, he was still
married.
The job he had with me he took after a year of unemployment. He was living with a woman he met in
California, at her parents' house! When his overseas money ran out and needed a job, he moved here with his
girlfriend and her kid from some other guy. She was a cutie! And at her suggestion, she would pose topless for
pictures in semi-public locations! My kind of girl.
She left him when he came home one night after working out.
He hadn't worked off all of the Smilax and had a roid rage when he saw her feeding her kid ice cream. He spent the
night in jail and when he got out, she was on her way back home. One of his complaints is that she wouldn't get a
job. Well, who mooched off of whose parents for a year?
This guy fit the pattern of other bullies I've known in
my life. I'm basically a meek guy and would get along with a bully until suddenly they would turn on me, usually
when I had something they wanted.
<Paul Harvey persona> And now, you know the rest of the story. </Paul Harvey
persona>
My point was that I spent so much energy analyzing and speaking about my feelings and obsessions that I
lost my chance and convinced someone else of the woman's value.
And as to the statement from culturalblonde that
I quoted in my previous post, I'm reminded of the story of Miles Standish, where he sent John Aldren to tell the
woman he was enamored that he liked her. She replied, "Why don't you speak for yourself, John?"
Interesting story and your buddy sounds like a jerk. I never got into steroids, I almost did for football about 5
years ago but decided not to take them and glad I didn't b/c many ppl get addicted to anabolic steroids.
As for
speaking for myself everyone else is right which is something I most always do, except in this case as this girl is
playing highschool games.
Chicago
LOL, you will need about $2,000 or more of spending moneysigfreed give me the address of this gym, where the arab girl
works out.
i will go there and fuck her lol
to blow if you want to have even the slightest chance of having sex with her.
Personally from what my friend
told me and what I hear about this Arabic woman, she is a gold digger. She doesn't give out her home number as she
lives at home, and is very selective of who she gives out her cell number to.
I guarantee if you were to get a
date with her, you'd have to spend $150 and you probably still wouldn't get any sexual experiences with her.
She'd probably ask for your number and never use it.
She feeds off of the attention that men of all ages give
her when they follow her around and when she doesn't get that attention, she gets in a bad mood and is cold to
certain people. I guarantee she probably has a 40yr+ old man in her life with lots of money who she sees every now
and then. And I bet it's a man that doesn't live in the area or go to the gym as she seems to be very private and
doesn't say much about herself.
I'm going to ignore her for a week and I know it will piss her off as she
didn't get her daily dosage and I want to see what type of reaction she has.
I've heard of playing hard to
get, but IMO it shouldn't be this hard for a man to take a woman out for dinner or a drink cultural differences or
not. I'm moving on.
I've never had this much trouble or confusion with someone who was interested in me.
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