Great analogies! You sound as
if you've been there and done that. Maybe even bought the tee shirt?
there are mental freakshows where the best decision is to walk away.... this Arab girl-woman
obviously has some serious psychological problems with intimacy. Unhook your brain from her mildly deranged behavior
while you still have your self respect and sanity intact. Rule #1 = where there's smoke, there's fire.
Translation: if someone acts strangely, unpredictably, their choices don't make emotional sense BEFORE you become
involved, you may be guaranteed that that person will become maddeningly, disgustingly weird AFTER you're in the
relationship... Rule #2 = when you see you're in a losing game, cut your losses as fast as you can. OR... when you
find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Rule #3 =
people who lack self respect don't respect other people either.
People with little self respect are capable of the most incredibly fucked up things. Therefor: if you sense that you
are being turned into an "emotional toy", she doesn't see you as an independent human being, she see you as an
extension of her own weird thought processes.
Summation: you go to the store and want to buy some food to cook.
You see a delicious chicken. You imagine it roasting in your oven. You pick it up and smell it, only to sense that
the meat is rotten.... you have an immediate visceral response that no way are you going to cook and eat that
chicken. For sure you will be sick all right. Think like that with people, if they smell like they'll make you
sick, they will make you sick.
Great analogies! You sound as
if you've been there and done that. Maybe even bought the tee shirt?
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I know he's not listening,Originally Posted by surfs_up
because he hasn't learned to yet, but I've decided to pull it out so it can be seen again. This is definitely a
KEEPER for life!
READ TO ACHIEVE!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
in retrospect the biggest mistake I made (about a thousand times before it sank in to my
tiny mind) was that if you believe in the golden rule others will believe in it too. You know, be empathetic and
understanding, and Voila ! they will, just like magic, see the light, wake up to all their foolishness, and be
better human beings by dawn tomorrow. Sloooooowly it came to be known that patterns of behavior are set early in
life, even small changes in personality/behavior/ethics are hard to achieve, annnnnd the kicker for me was that even
the most fucked up, miserable creatures who repeat absurd self destructive + other destructive shit are
fundamentally content with who they are, or are too lazy and full of dumbass inertia to change who they are even if
they suspect they ought to, or are so egotistic any useful criticism is seen as a grevious personal affront, or are
so clueless they run around crashing into other lives, leave wreakage strewn about, and then lurch forth like
automotons to crash into the next unsuspecting victim. Lesson : don't waste your time trying to change other
people. Your best defense is early detection and avoidance. Stay way the hell away from no-win mind games. If you
want other people to change, work on yourself, find a good psychologist and discuss recurrent patterns in your life
and why they may keep cropping up if that's what you need to do. Read a pile of behavioral books....
#1
suggestion for inforative reading Emotional Vampires: Dealing With Deople Who Drain You Dry by Albert Bernstein,
Ph.D.... a quote from the book "Emotional Vampires will use you to meet whatever needs they happen to be
experiencing at the moment. They have no qualms about taking your effort, your money, your love, your attention,
your admiration, your body or your soul to meet their insatiable cravings. They want what they want and they don't
much care how you feel about it".... for $12.95 paperback it was a good investment, my copy is well undelined by
now.
Originally Posted by belgareth
The
one that says "Kick Me" on the back?
Emotional Vampires is a great book.
Last edited by Holmes; 04-13-2005 at 11:31 AM.
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
It's taken me yearsssssssssss to get that lesson!Originally Posted by surfs_up
No one could have ever make me believe that IF the other person saw you as a good person, they wouldn't
WANT to change. I stayed and stayed, always saying to myself, "her eyes will open, and she'll have no choice but
WANT to be a part of something special, and change. Not!
You can learn a lot ... from a
dummy!
Thumbs up, Surfs-Up!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
surfs_Up
I think she has more psychological problems than just intimacy. I also think she has low self esteemthere
are mental freakshows where the best decision is to walk away.... this Arab girl-woman obviously has some serious
psychological problems with intimacy. Unhook your brain from her mildly deranged behavior while you still have your
self respect and sanity intact. Rule #1 = where there's smoke, there's fire. Translation: if someone acts
strangely, unpredictably, their choices don't make emotional sense BEFORE you become involved, you may be
guaranteed that that person will become maddeningly, disgustingly weird AFTER you're in the relationship... Rule #2
= when you see you're in a losing game, cut your losses as fast as you can. OR... when you find yourself in a hole,
stop digging. Rule #3 =
people who lack self respect don't respect other people either. People with little self
respect are capable of the most incredibly fucked up things. Therefore: if you sense that you are being turned into
an "emotional toy", she doesn't see you as an independent human being, she see you as an extension of her own weird
thought processes.
Summation: you go to the store and want to buy some food to cook. You see a delicious chicken.
You imagine it roasting in your oven. You pick it up and smell it, only to sense that the meat is rotten.... you
have an immediate visceral response that no way are you going to cook and eat that chicken. For sure you will be
sick all right. Think like that with people, if they smell like they'll make you sick, they will make you
sick.
which is why she always seeks attention from as many men as she can and won't accept dates or friendly
conversation.
I was just going to say that I'm calling it quits on this clearly conceited female while I still
have my pride and self respect.
I can understand and respect different cultures systems when it comes to dating
but too much is too much.
Belgareth
I've come to realize that we've all been through somethingGreat analogies! You sound as if you've been there and done
that. Maybe even bought the tee shirt?
totally outrageous and abnormal when it comes to relationships, dating, and the opposite sex.
I guarantee that
if all of us get together and discuss our most wildest and infuriating dating tales, that we could make a movie or
something. I bet each of us has a tale to share that we each have not experienced yet.
MobleyC57
Of course I'mI
know he's not listening, because he hasn't learned to yet, but I've decided to pull it out so it can be seen
again. This is definitely a KEEPER for life!
READ TO ACHIEVE!
listening. If you haven't read my previous replies, I stated that I'm giving up on this woman. Just too confusing
and whatever the cultural differences are, no guy should have to go through this to take someone out for a drink.
What I will say is if anything were to happen, it would be short term or maybe even just a one night stand.
And to get that short term dating or one night stand I would most likely have had to spend $150 on dinner and I
might not even get anything out of it after that as that's the type of woman she is.
She is at the gym 6 days a
week maybe even 7. I'm not sure about Sunday as I'm never there. But there is the few days she won't show, but
for the most part she's there 6 days a week. The gym seems to be %80 if not more of her life. The gym is her social
scene where she gets her attention from. As I stated earlier, I'm sure she sees older and richer men who don't go
to the gym and maybe don't live around here.
So I'm going to cut my losses and ignore her which will sure piss
her off but that's what I want to piss her off. I'm going to look for someone much less complicated.
Sorry
guys about all this, I thought there may have been an oportunity with her for something. I have been minding my own
business until this she started up with this crap a few weeks ago.
One can listen, and not understand/see the point, which is what I meant, Sig.Originally Posted by Sigfreed
One
more thing, DO NOT let the forum persuade you into doing what YOU do not want to do. It's always best to see it for
yourself. Pretty much, everything said has value to it, but no one really knows what's on her mind. Months of
torture deserves an answer.
The confusion is what's got you.
And before I forget ...
I'm reserving all rights to be wrong!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
Uh...yup! I got meOriginally Posted by Holmes
one of them thar shirts m'self. Didn't reckon so danged many folks could read and follie directions.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Sigh... My 2 cents: Yes indeed, one
lesson I have learned in life is that some people are just no damn good. Period.
You can't change 'em. That's
the way they come. The only change possible must come from within themselves. And don't hold your breath waiting.
Is it the white one with white print?Originally Posted by belgareth
Them shirts is sure expensive! (Got a pile
of 'em maself.)
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
I think mine allOriginally Posted by Holmes
have the flashing orange and green neon print.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
MobleyC57
Yes and I do understand as well as listen nor am I letting anyone else influence me. I'veOne can
listen, and not understand/see the point, which is what I meant, Sig.
One more thing, DO NOT let the forum
persuade you into doing what YOU do not want to do. It's always best to see it for yourself. Pretty much,
everything said has value to it, but no one really knows what's on her mind. Months of torture deserves an answer.
The confusion is what's got you.
And before I forget ... I'm reserving all rights to be
wrong!
also discussed her with my friends say I should ignore her for a week and see what she does. And I truly feel she is
just playing with my head for her daily dose of attention that she feeds off of.
Being the red blooded male that
I am, I don't have time in this world to waste on a woman such as this one. If she comes to me that's cool, if
not, I'm not going out of my way.
Rbt
You are rightSigh... My 2 cents: Yes indeed, one lesson I have learned in
life is that some people are just no damn good. Period.
You can't change 'em. That's the way they come. The
only change possible must come from within themselves. And don't hold your breath waiting.
but we can't forget the possiblity of cultural clashes regarding dating in this situation. Either way, as I already
said, no guy should have to go through this for a date.
I'm going to ignore her for awhile, I barely give her
any attention as it is and she doesn't like it. I want to see how she reacts when I ignore her for awhile.
How
do you guys think she will react to that?
A. pissed off
B. she will go out of her way a little more to talk to
me
C. won't give a f^ck
I personally think it will be C (just like the answers to all multiple choice tests in
school LOL, just kidding).
She is too consumed with herself to give a f^ck. In case Wood Elf replies, no Wood, I
would not want to be with a woman like this. But it would've been fun to be able to say that I took her out a few
times and had fun.
But I would not want to date this woman or marry her as I can tell she's after the bucks.
Wow, this is the thread that
just won't die, even though it deserves a quick and painless death. I followed along a lot over the weekend, but
then, got busy with life and stuff.
Since that time, the conclusions that have been reached are that this girl is
"Arabic", (are we SURE about that), that her "cultural differences" make her impossible to understand, that she is
conceited, stuck up, a gold digger, playing head games, that her father may have come to the gym to give his
blessing for a date (um, no), and lord knows what else. Yet, from what I can tell, the extent of the actual
conversations have been : "hi, how you doing", "ok", "did you have a good weekend", "yeah it was ok", "what did you
do", "not much, well, gotta run." Wow.
I suppose I should make the assumption then, that basically, no one
has asked this chic out yet. International Playboy's story was very appropriate to the thread. I'd bet even
money, good money, that some naive dumb new guy will join this gym, see her, like what he sees, ask her out, she'll
say yes, because she has no life and is always at the gym, and here someone FINALLY had the guts to come up and ask
her out. And she'll go out with him, just because he asked.
What about "cookin' up trouble", girl, then?
Gonna ask her out, or just analyze the situation for months on end? Wring our hands over whether her ring is an
engagement ring, or just a promise ring, or maybe it's just jewelry, but we're not really sure, so we'll agonize
over the color, cut, clarity, carat weight, and quality of the gemstone, and make suppositions about what kind of
man her supposed husband must be, and analyze her every minute reaction, when a simple "nice ring - are you
married", would probably tell us everything we want to know.....
Did anyone here ever stop to think
that maybe the chick is just fine, and Sigfreed is the one with the problems?
Sounds like you've practically wrapped itThanks all sorry
for the length, but there was a lot of needed detail to describe.
up. Just initiate a friendly date, the situation should steadily escalate from there. If you are unsure how to be
more direct, just say, "Hi, you seem very cool, if you are free Friday, would you like to [insert]?"
Last edited by Sir Louis; 04-14-2005 at 05:18 AM.
The word you're looking for isOriginally Posted by surfs_up
narcissistic personality disorder, a lesser form of psychopathy. You might find Sam
Vaknin's literature on NPD very interesting. I was in denial with my ex for a long time, and this was an
invaluable resource to at least understanding the mechanisms behind the way she was. I'd say it was more of a
grieving process than anything.
Isn't that a real stretch, even"this Arab girl-woman
obviously has some serious psychological problems with intimacy."
for armchair psychoanalysis, when behavioral observations are based on forum messages and hearsay? There's another
side to this story--her side--and I bet it's an extremely different perspective.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Originally Posted by tounge
It's been known to happen!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
yeah, were dealing with a hypothetical case, only a narrow description... OTOH how do you respond to
the situation as described ? The possibilities are that, as they used to say all the time in NLP, "the map isn't
the territory".... This is one guy's map, imagination, projection... for all we know it may be a composite figure,
not fully true, an attempt to undeline a behavioral pattern...
All that said, if you are interacting with
another person and you are picking up strongly mixed emotional messages, such as well understood behaviors that are
a species wide signal for attraction, interest, curiosity, or desire and, simultaneously you are beign sent well
understood signals of rejection, disinterest, disgust, or belittlement, you are by definition experiencing
INCONGRUITY....
Incongruity may be used profesionally for interrogation as it induces as sense of confusion,
helplessnesss, and compliance, as when it is applied in the classic good cop/bad cop routine, it may be used in
dramatic storytelling, when something is out of place in a scene, like a fur coat hanging up in a greasy gas
station, or it can be subtle, as the psychologists call them "minimal cues", like a guy who winces when you mention
his brother... this is an entire study in itself... for instance a trainer, Dave Dobson (in his final years but
still working, remarkably) with his Other Than Conscious Communication program makes congruity his primary
focus...
Anyway.... we don't know the true events in the gym.. what we do have is a not too off base
description of incongruent behavior....which we can think about on its own terms. It is normal to experience low
levels of incongruity throughout the day, everyone has multiple priorities, not all agendas are perfectly aligned,
the saleman who sells you something may genuinely like you but he's also got to look out for himself, on the other
side of the equation a good customer knows how to sort out the selling behavior from the true feeling and make a
good decision that leaves the relationship intact.
OTOH, there are more than enough crime shows on the cable
channels which detail the most bizarre relationships, marriages, etc... where there must have been screaming
incongruity from day one that was overlooked.... which suggests that some people are exceedingly incompetent in
detecting incongruity, or they were raised in families where incongruity was "normal" and they have been programmed
to think of incongruent behavior as the way humans are...
The other legitimate explanation for incongruity is
pseudo-incongruity where one culture has evolved a different, accepted behavioral pattern that ultimately makes
sense within that culture. I have had aquaintances who have married into African families (and v.v.) who have
travelled to Africa to meet their in-laws who were initially floored, weirded out beyond any possible expectation,
by "normal, polite, standard" social customs... they weren't bad or awful behaviors, but from a middle class
American perspection they made absolutely no sense, until they were understood through long exposure to the
culture.
Our hypothetical girl offers us a wealth of possibilities in either direction.... and like
Kurosawa's film Rashomon, every participant has his or her own inner movie of what the truth is... a useful aside
about psychology and psychologists... we rarely know what our own truth is, we might not recognize it if it was put
right in front of us.... well intended people struggle for years to know themselves, what causes them to feel and
think the way they do, their lives to have the shapes they have taken... and the best of psychologists must work
with their experience, intuition, material they have studied... they almost never see the family dynamics first
hand, or have spoken with the mother or father who created the person who the patient is... they can only respond to
the information given, as we do here.
esk6969
Well if anyone does ask this particular gym girl (the Arabic one), he will have aI suppose I
should make the assumption then, that basically, no one has asked this chic out yet. International Playboy's story
was very appropriate to the thread. I'd bet even money, good money, that some naive dumb new guy will join this
gym, see her, like what he sees, ask her out, she'll say yes, because she has no life and is always at the gym, and
here someone FINALLY had the guts to come up and ask her out. And she'll go out with him, just because he asked.
What about "cookin' up trouble", girl, then? Gonna ask her out, or just analyze the situation for months on
end? Wring our hands over whether her ring is an engagement ring, or just a promise ring, or maybe it's just
jewelry, but we're not really sure, so we'll agonize over the color, cut, clarity, carat weight, and quality of
the gemstone, and make suppositions about what kind of man her supposed husband must be, and analyze her every
minute reaction, when a simple "nice ring - are you married", would probably tell us everything we want to
know.....
lot of bucks. And as I already said, she most likely is seeing someone occasionally who has dough, either her age or
older. I've over heard other guys ask her out and she the majority of the time rejects them or goes out with them
once to a fancy restauarnt say for $150 for a meal and doesn't call them back.
As for the juice bar girl at the
gym, she's only there once a week, twice at most so we're not exposed to eachother too often and some weeks I
don't even see her. She doesn't work out there so I can't talk to her in the gym
You're right about trying to
figure out every last detail. I guess I'm just trying to avoid putting myself on the line. After all I am just back
in the dating scene after 3 years. But then again if I don't ask, I won't know and I will have to ask a woman out
sooner or later.
I got a good look at the ring, it's a wide band, but thin with small empty circles all the
way around. It could be silver or white gold I'm not sure and she doesn't have any other rings as just plain
jewelry on her fingers.
What's funny with me is, I don't always do well under pressure or on the spot. If
I've met someone through a friend or at work let's say and it's someone I see either a couple times a week or
everyday, I won't have a problem asking them out.
But if it's someone that I have only spoken to twice, and
don't know their name, I tend to be more nervous which is normal I guess. Normally w/o over analizing the
situation, I try to learn as much as I can about the woman. If she lives at home, with friends or her BOYFRIEND. If
she says she lives with her boyfriend I move on and I'm safe. Other wise I try to learn more about them and see
what their situation is prior to asking them out for a drink.
Toungue
The only problem IDid anyone here ever stop to
think that maybe the chick is just fine, and Sigfreed is the one with the problems?
have is I am now totally new once again to the dating scene after having been with one woman for 3 years and it's
always tough.
As for this girl, I told you what she does, how she acts and so on. %80 or more of her life is the
gym and that includes a large portion of her personal life as well. She feeds off of attention that men give her.
Sir Louis
Pretty much did. It think I'm going to see what'sSounds like you've practically wrapped it up. Just initiate a friendly date, the situation
should steadily escalate from there. If you are unsure how to be more direct, just say, "Hi, you seem very cool, if
you are free Friday, would you like to [insert]?"
happening with the juice bar girl instead as there will be no cultural interferance.
She could very well have this. But I know sheThe word you're
looking for is narcissistic personality disorder, a lesser form of psychopathy. You might find
Sam Vaknin's literature on NPD very interesting. I was in denial with my ex
for a long time, and this was an invaluable resource to at least understanding the mechanisms behind the way she
was. I'd say it was more of a grieving process than anything.
certainly has self-esteem issues, other wise she wouldn't need sooo much attention and sooo much male attention.
Most people I dated and they were very attractive, didn't flirt and want sooo much male attention. Then at the same
time she wants the big bucks from a man.
Not what I want in a woman.
Gegogi
You areIsn't that a real
stretch, even for armchair psychoanalysis, when behavioral observations are based on forum messages and hearsay?
There's another side to this story--her side--and I bet it's an extremely different perspective
probably right that she has a totally different perspective. But the way she acts, flaunts herself around the gym,
flirts with everyone and has many men of all ages following her around says a lot about her character.
If she's
not the way many of us guys at the gym think she is a c@#k teazer, (no offense ladies).
I
wouldn't want to have someone like that as a steady girlfriend. I want someone with more self respect than that. I
want someone who is satisfied with the attention I give her and doesn't need to get extra from other men.
MobleyC57
Well you guys are wrong about me if youIt's been known to happen!
think that. As I said I've never dealt with anyone such as this.
In all the past dating and sexual encounters
I've had with women I've dated and been with, it was much smoother than this.
I'd meet someone I like, or
they'd bump into me. We'd get chatting, and if it was someone I'd see regularly we'd chat exchange personal info
about our lives and then I'd ask them out for a drink or they'd ask me out. But the majority of the time I'd ask
them out. I've never dated or been with anyone who played this many head games or needed sooo much attention from
males and if she didn't get it that day, she'd be in a bad mood.
There is nothing wrong with me. All my other
dating experiences and new meetings have been much simpler. Yes I've dated ppl who have played hard to get but it
only dragged on for a few weeks to a month not 3 or 4 months followed by signs of interest after only 4 months like
with this Arab gym hottie.
She is a conceited one I can assure you on that. And I don't need nor want to be
with someone like that.
I don't play head games, if I like someone and we get along and have had some
meaningful conversations, I will ask them out plain and simple. I have not had that with this Arab hottie. Too much
confusion and mixed signals. One day she flirts with me, the next she totally blows me off and ignores me. And it's
been going on such as this for awhile now.
Too much for me, I'm moving on.
My next question is it
appropriate to come right out to a woman you've spoken to a few times and thought there could be something if she
has a boyfriend? Or is it better to just ask them for a drink?
B/c I've been in a few situations where I've
asked out a girl for a drink and met her at the bar or coffee shop, and either her boyfriend shows up or he meets
her there after I arrive and I'm left saying to myself WTF? I asked you out and you bring your boyfriend and don't
tell me. And no it's was never someone there to observe me like her brother. It actually was her boyfriend.
That's a screwed up situation.
here is an advice from a
guy who has dates/gone out with more middle eastern girl you've probably seen(I'm middle eastern origin),,, DON't
EVER DATE a middle eastern girl(go one night stand with them) but NEVER DATE ONE. They'll rip you off and once you
come to yourself you find out not just your wallet but your bank acount is empty.lol
they're awsoem girls, i love
them, but no one has taught them to spend a peny when they're out with a guy...
cheers,
Time to consult the ghost!Originally Posted by surfs_up
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
TexasHoldem22
Where are you from originally? I hope you haven't taken any offense to what I'vehere
is an advice from a guy who has dates/gone out with more middle eastern girl you've probably seen(I'm middle
eastern origin),,, DON't EVER DATE a middle eastern girl(go one night stand with them) but NEVER DATE ONE. They'll
rip you off and once you come to yourself you find out not just your wallet but your bank acount is
empty.lol
they're awsoem girls, i love them, but no one has taught them to spend a peny when they're out with a
guy...
cheers,
said. So far from what I read in your reply, you may actually agree with me that this girl is probably out for the
big bucks.
You say go for one night stands with them? Won't her brothers come and beat you up for screwing
their sister over like that? A couple of other members here said they've dated mid easter women, and their brothers
attacked them when they broke up?
Anyone what do you guys think about this situation here that I'm quoting
myself onB/c I've been in a few situations where I've asked out a girl for a drink and met her at the bar
or coffee shop, and either her boyfriend shows up or he meets her there after I arrive and I'm left saying to
myself WTF? I asked you out and you bring your boyfriend and don't tell me. And no it's was never someone there to
observe me like her brother. It actually was her boyfriend.
That's a screwed up situation.
TexasHoldem22? Belgareth? Wood Elf? MobleyC57? Anyone?
Why would a girl knowingly accept to meet you for a
drink and them come/have her boyfriend meet with you?
Who cares? I would have moved
on at that stage.
If she wants to explain then that's up to her, but I'm past caring by that point.
1 - You're in serious LJBF land, and/or she's really wants you to know it!Originally Posted by Sigfreed
2 - She's
trying to make someone jealous.
3 - She's smoking that imported crack.
4 - You've found yourself attracted to a
monster!
5 - She's really from my area, and has no clue!
Run! Run far! Run fast!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
MobleyC57
Well number one is out of the1 -
You're in serious LJBF land, and/or she's really wants you to know it!
2 - She's trying to make someone
jealous.
3 - She's smoking that imported crack.
4 - You've found yourself attracted to a monster!
5 - She's
really from my area, and has no clue!
Run! Run far! Run fast!
question b/c she never told me she had a boyfriend or was married so I was just going on my business asking the
girl/woman out.
In some a couple of these situations I've been in, the answer has usually been number 2 and/or
number 4.
Last summer when I was still close to my girlfriend I had 2 girls in their mid 20's ask me out, and a
sexy older woman who came straight out and said she wanted to go for a drink and see where it would lead.
And I
told all 3 straight up that I had a girlfriend. LOL now I'm kicking myself in the ass for turning them down
considering I haven't met anyone new since I mutually ended the relationship in Febuary.
CptKipling
Well if it's a female you really like you will be caring why she brings her
Who cares? I would have moved on at that stage.
If she wants to explain then that's up to her, but I'm past
caring by that point.
boyfriend on what you made clear a date.
I will never understand why some women play such immature games and
waste ppl's time?
I don't play games. I Know for sure that something is there I will ask them out.
now picture you
asking a cute girl out and then bringing your girlfriend.... conjures up... either you're hinting at a threesome or
you're a hopeless wacko or you're a hopeless wacko hinting at threesome.... confusing signals to say the least,
and very tacky behavior... best to avoid all curveball games unless you feel like being the dog who plays fetch... a
major waste of time and energy, sanity too.
surfs_Up
That's why I'm giving this Arabic gym hottie anow picture
you asking a cute girl out and then bringing your girlfriend.... conjures up... either you're hinting at a
threesome or you're a hopeless wacko or you're a hopeless wacko hinting at threesome.... confusing signals to say
the least, and very tacky behavior... best to avoid all curveball games unless you feel like being the dog who plays
fetch... a major waste of time and energy, sanity too.
taste of her own medicine and I'm ignoring her for a little while. I ignored her today, and I still saw her looking
at me but no contact or conversing.
Ya know man, I'm still kinda
amazed that this thread has not been shot down by some angry member with a shotgun. Actually, I think a few of you
have tried, but we seem to have one tough son of a bitch on our hands. Sig, I honestly think that you need to make
up your mind as to what you want this hellhole of a 'relationship' to become. If you want sex, ignoring her ass
isn't going to make that happen. If you want to be friends with a hot chick (many good things can come out of
that, as hot women know other hot women), ignoring her isn't going to do much good. If you want to seem like a
confused, utterly senseless wackjob, then ignoring her is the way to go.
Honestly, Mobley, I think they're both
smoking that imported crack! ;-)
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