Reply With QuoteI think that is how Gilligan and the
Skipper met, isn't it?
Buddy-list?
What effect, if any
does it have if I add someone to my buddy-list?
Thanks!
I think that is how Gilligan and the
Skipper met, isn't it?
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LOL - I was thinking about
adding the women to my buddy list, but I don't know what that does in terms of forum capabilities. Does it allow
them to IM me or does my name start blinking on their screen when we're logged on, or sth else? It appears as if
you don't need to put someone on yr buddy list to receive PM's so what does it do?
I think it tells you when they
are online.
Sorry, not even that. It put a + next to their name. That's the only thing I could find that it
did.
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Thomas Jefferson
Thanks Belgareth
Yep, I had
noticed that. I thought maybe there was more to it (unbeknownst to me) but I guess that's IT!
Oh BTW if that
is a real picture of your wolf - What a gorgeous animal you had! I betcha it was a male. My wolf hybrid lived to be
14.5 years old. She had been bred by people who had moved to NH from Alaska. Her Dad was full wolf, her mom was 25%
Alsakan malamute. So they called her an 87.5% wolf hybrid, but I never bothered with that. I ended up having to
switch veterinarians and declare her a Malamute mix. The first vet told me that because the rabbies vaccine had
never been approved for wolves, if she ever bit someone she would have been considered "unvaccinated".
And
yes, it is uncanny how they sometimes immediately dislike certain people. Me ex father-in-law tried for 10 years to
pet her, and she never let him. She was extremely intelligent and very playful. We had given her a teddy bear when
she was a pup, and later in life none of the children's plush toys were ever safe! She'd go burry them in the
yard! I'm still finding stuff!
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My parents bred and raised wolf
cross breeds for the better part of 30 years. We always had a handful of full blooded wolves of several varieties on
the property. After my dad died my mother sold off the breeding stock and only kept a couple as companions. Malamute
was a great combo, you had a very valuable and wonderful friend there. People who have only owned regular dogs
don't usually understand the difference. Wolves aren't pets, they are friends. I wish I had enough space to keep
one here. Maybe later when I can afford a few acres.
Bear was a birthday gift when I was 10. Yes, he was male,
how did you guess? The males are somewhat less aggressive and better for a young person who is just learning to
handle them. He loved to play too, right up to the day he passed away.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
It is unbelievable how many
myths and misconceptions still exist about wolves. And yes, they are not pets but friends. I live in the middle of
the woods and was able to let her roam around to some extent. My closest neighbors always loved it when she came
around. They would offer her snacks in the hopes of being able to touch her or lure her into their house. It became
a local sport!
The people I bought her from told me that malamute was a good mix. They said to beware of
wolf/german sherperd mixes because (according to them) when the wolf gets scared, it needs to be counterbalanced by
a laid-back breed and not a german sherperd. I don't know if this is true or not.
I guessed Bear was a male
because the males are better looking. Broader skull is what I could see. I picked a female because I was scared of
having to deal with an animal trying to be the alpha male. One alpha male in this household is enough - thank you!
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When Disney shot the new "White fang" movie I was contacted by the breeder and asked to send in pics of
my pup for the movie. Ultimately they decided to go with a litter they found locally in Alaska. It was for the best
for my pup, I'm sure.
My parents did a number of
wolf/shepard litters. In general they were a bit high strung and with an animal that smart and big it isn't too
good an idea. We never had any reports of them harming anybody but did require disclaimers and training.
It's
funny you mention that about alphas. My younger brother is bigger and heavier than me but couldn't handle the big
males. They never took him seriously and he ended up backed into a corner more than once. I really believe they
thought it was funny, you know the expression. Sitting there with tongue hanging out of the side of their mouth
looking like they are grinning and their eyes sparkling. It never once happened to me but I used my dad as an
example and did just like an alpha wolf would do. At the first sign of a challenge you reach out and cuff them
without warning. Never back down and never drop your eyes first!
You are right about the myths and
misinformation reagrding wolves. An intruder, especially an aggressive one, is almost certain to be in trouble but
once you are part of the pack they'll die protecting you. Wonderful, loyal, kind and loving animals!
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I thought they were only used asOriginally Posted by NaughtyGirl
dancing partners...
Watchit - we'll set them loose on you!
Pancho,
I've
been meaning to tell you in other threads, that you are my kind of guy. You are very intelligent and witty - I enjoy
your posts tremendously - BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THIS THREAD!!! <img>
I believe you didn't have
trouble with the males because I have you pegged as an alpha male yourself.
Re intruders: Two funny stories
One day friends of ours came unanounced and we weren't home. So they let themselves in through the basement
bulkhead. LOL They never made it into the house!
Another day I had a colleague from work stop by. He owns a big
watchdog (forgot what breed) and prided himself on getting along great with dogs. Nicki backed into a corner,
growling and that is the one and only time I really feared she was going to bite someone.
Grinning and eyes
sparkling - Yes, yes, yes. (Sigh - I miss my woofie-pooh)
Years after moving out of my
parents' house I got backed out the door by a she-wolf myself. Walked in the house like I have done my whole life
and there's this unfamilar wolf in the front hallway. She gave me that real friendly snarl and let me see those big
canines of hers. I magically levitated right back out the door before she could more than half rise. We got along
fine after we were introduced but you know how they can be about such proprieties.
Me an alpha? No chance! I'm
a nice guy and thus, a failure with women. If you don't believe that, go read the forums. All those broad-minded
geniuses will tell you that beyond any chance of uncertainty.
Yeah, I miss my wolf friends too. They are
easier to relate to than many humans because they are so honest.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
The buddy list function is a
capability that the forum has but does not use to its potential.
I turn your question back to
you...after all, this is supposed to be a thread related to store questions and problems, specifically the buddy
list option, and you're talking about wolves. I didn't ask what you were doing in this thread...
That said, I
was making what I thought to be a relevant comment despite the obvious joking reference to Dances with Wolves.
You both said that people have misconceptions of wolves, and I was jokingly proving your point. I don't really
know how much different a German Shepard is from a Wolf (besides things such as traveling in packs, prey, hunting
style, etc.) than a Rabbit is from a Jackrabbit (besides the ears, feet, and diet). Then again, I guess I'm also
proving to be the exception since I don't have any misconceptions, seeing I don't claim to have much knowledge in
the first place.
I'm sorry, though...I didn't know this was a restricted threat. (hey, at least I didn't
reply like this:
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1574
27&postcount=7
Well...it is her thread. She
can't really complain too much about it being pulled off topic, can she?
I think in this case she meant it in
jest, especially after the complementory prior comment.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
No, not really.
You
think so? Okay. Carry on!
I sure did! <img> Right back atcha! You areNo, not
really.
You think so? Okay. Carry on!
welcome to butt into any thread of mine anytime Pancho! You'd be on my buddylist if it were used to its potential
(whatever that may be)! This conversation does belong under a different category. My bad - it just happened. And I
did just feel like teasing you a bit - away from the crowds.
To reply to your earlier post - The difference
between a German Shepard and a Wolf is this. German Shepards are guard dogs. They feel comfortable around humans and
have a certain amount of aggressiveness bred into them (so they can guard). Wolves are wild animals. They are
inherently skiddish and afraid of humans. They will work together in packs to hunt down their prey to ensure their
survival but they will not attack a human because they are afraid of humans. Just like a wild rabbit (be it a
jack-rabbit or not) would be. Sooo... when I go running through the woods here - I'm much more worried about
Coy-dogs (coyote-dog mixes) than I would ever be about a wolf.
So when you have a wolf hybrid - you don't
want it to be mixed with an aggressive dog breed. Because you don't want the big bad wolf to get mad at you!!!
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Belgareth
loves and understands wolves because he is one himself. He is clothed in human skin but he is every bit a wolf.
I'm sure it makes for an
interesting and never boring life wood elf!
Belgareth talks about his wolves a lot. I have
never had the good fortune to know one. What he describes of a wolf's nature makes me think of him. Does that make
sense to you?
To me a man with a wolf
personality would be:
- intelligent
- playful and misschievous
- a good judge of other people's
character
- careful in giving his trust, but extremely loyal once he did
- a provider for and protector of his
"pack"
- competitive (Being alpha is extremely important for wolves - Beta is number two and I forgot what the
poor lowest ranking wolf is called.
- good looking (They are such beautiful animals)
- strong and athletic
(Sometimes they need to expand more calories to hunt their prey than what their prey can actually provide)
-
restless/nervous/skiddish as the case may be. I do not believe they are very laid-back animals.
I'm sure I
could come up with more traits, but my hubbie is requesting my companionship, so that's it for me tonight. If you
ever want to PM me your e-mail address (even a yahoo one) I could send you my mish-mash file of EO recipes and
maybe I can dig up a digital pic of my woof as well.
Wolfs have ranks...and they actually follow similar terminology to humans? I'm
interested to know what you're talking about...
(at the risk of ruining my serious comment
above, I must add, "Maybe they're called 'nice wolves'..." just to poke fun at myself
Very few wolves are anything but nice. But when youWolfs have
ranks...and they actually follow similar terminology to humans? I'm interested to know what you're talking
about...
(at the risk of ruining my serious comment above, I must add, "Maybe they're called 'nice
wolves'..." just to poke fun at myself
rule the forests, there is little reason not to be. Even bears are reluctant to cross a wolfpack. I think human
conventions were actually created following animal conventions.
A little on their culture. They are social
animals and have a hierarchy. There is an undisputed leader who steps down when age and infirmity make him no longer
able to defend his title. Even when fighting for dominance, wolves rarely hurt others in their pack and packs
carefully avoid each other's territory. True fighting among wild wolves is rare. There is also a dominant she-wolf
in the pack.
With a young wolf, especially a male, you start from the first day being the boss. If you don't
keep a firm hold on them when they are young they will not take you seriously when they get older. That is not a
good situation. This is not a domestic dog whose only goal in life is to please its master. This is a strong, smart
and independent predator! My friend Bear was heavier than me!
In a pack food, shelter and childrearing are
shared amongst all members of the pack. They will even bring food to and guard an injured member while he/she
recuperates.
Hunting is cooperative too. The most common is where 3-4 of the strongest conceal themselves in
high grass or bushes. The rest of the pack sneaks close to the prey then startles and chases them right to the
waiting hunters. It is very effective.
Wolves love to play and have a great, if sometimes annoying, sense of
humor. Naughty can vouch for how irritating getting laughed at by a wolf is after they have played some prank on
you. They are great at hiding things they know you'll need soon. Then they sit there with tongue hanging out
watching you search.
I told this story another place in the forum but it should be repeated here. My oldest
daughter was about 6 or so at the time. We were visiting my parent's and she had gone outside to play. They lived
at the end of a long private cul-de-sac and the front yard wasn't fenced. One of the wolf mixes was outside with
her so we weren't too concerned. When she started screaming we all ran out the front door to find her flat on her
back on the lawn with the dog sitting on her, tongue hanging out and eyes sparkling. After we stopped laughing and
persuaded the dog to let her up she told us what happened. She tried to leave the yard and the dog stood in front of
her to stop her. When she tried to go around him, he butted her with his head, knocking her down then sat on her. He
had decided she wasn't leaving, she didn't leave.
In the years my parents bred wolve cross breeds they birthed
5-10 litters a year and shipped them all over the country. Out of all those animals there was only one report of an
animal intentionally harming an owner. The police investigation determined that he was drunk and struck his wife.
Considering that a mature wolf could have easily killed him the couple dozen stitches in his forearm seemed minor.
The animal only restrained him! We bought her back from them and kept her for the rest of her life. She was a nice
animal and gentle as could be.
Naughty,
Regarding yours and Wood Elf's comments. I like, respect and
understand wolves. We get along well as they seem to feel the same way about me. Am I a wolf? Not really but I
relate to them well.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
LOL I'll leave it up to
Wood Elf to be the judge!
Good description of wolves I cannot disagree with any of it.
with what dog breeds are you
capable of producing healthy and viable interwolf offspring? Any of the largest dog breeds (e.g. Great Dane).
We had a lot of good results
with german shepards, huskies, malmuts. Pit bull, or any of the more aggressive dogs didn't work out well. The
smaller breeds like australian shepard were problems carrying to term for females and mating issues for the males.
We didn't do artificial insemination. I don't know that I'd breed with a great dane, it might get to big to
manage. A full size wolf is a handful, something that big would be hard to deal with.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I've wanted to get a dog for
a long time now. When I think of what I want in a dog I think to the ones that I've had when I was younger and the
size that they were(which were bigger in relation to me since I was smaller). I'd get a straight Dane, but they
have such a short life expectancy (physically I like the Dane makeup) I was wondering if the wolf genes would
lengthen that out a bit. Also, the personality of a wolf is exactly what I would want in a dog anyway, just never
knew you could get a dog predisposed to it.
I would stick to a Siberian husky or a
malamute mix for a wolf. IMHO even a German shepard is taking a chance since it is a guard dog. That would not be
for wolf newbies. But Bel has more experience with that than me, so maybe I'm being overly cautious. How well the
puppies are socialized at birth would make a huge difference.
Consider this as well: Where would you find a
breeder willing to mix his wolf with a great Dane or vice-versa? And... what would the animal look like? At least
with the first three, you'd have similarity in looks. Do you have the room for it?
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I was answering the question
asked, sorry if it wasn't more direcfted towards what you wanted. The biggest problem with Siberien Huskies is that
they are so close to being wolves themselves. Be prepared for an animal that acts like a pure breed wolf. Malamute
(Ok, so I can't spell!) is close to the same issue but not as bad. Most of the wolf breeds my parents did were
specifically meant for guard work so shepards were a good choice.
Naughty is right about the question of a
breeder. I've never known one that took custom breeding requsts. If you had a dog you were willing to pay them to
breed with one of their males it might be different. Then the extra puppies would be your problem, not theirs. I've
not seen a reat dane/wolf cross but that doesn't mean there aren't any. At a guess, I wouldn't count on it
looking much like either. You could get all the best traits but you could get the worst too. There's just no way to
tell.
In all honesty and fairness to you and the dog, unless you are willing to deal with a wolf, don't start
down that path. They need a lot of special attention and room. If you aren't prepraed for them, you'll end up
disliking each other and that wouldn't be a good situation.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
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