to clarify, the term 'nice

guy' used in the context i was referring to refer to the negative qualities of being too nice and thus what coined

the phrase "nice guys finish last". Im not saying being nice wont get you women, what im saying is, if you are able

to attract a lot of women and yet youre still a very nice guy, then you basically bagged the positives of being nice

without the negatives and thus being nice becomes lost in translation and thus combined with all of your other

positive attributes to make you attractive and women will never refer to you as a nice guy even though you maybe

nice. So what im saying is, essentially, youve accomplished mutating the "nice guy" qualities into something that

allows you to attract women. However, the blurry boundary of where being a nice guy becomes a bad thing is when you

become described as a nice guy. In society, generally speaking, women will never describe the men they are attracted

to as nice, even if they are nice, they will be described in another manner. Ive noticed that women who use the

phrase "nice guy" to describe a guy usually are not attracted to that guy. Thus, the phrase nice guy i think is

unconsciously being associated in that negative manner.