I don't get it...

[real_wiseman]

Hi guys,
I

have been here for a long time, but never asked this kind of question but here goes:

I recently met a girl I

used to meet alot (she had a coffeeshop where I bought my espresso almost daily) and back then we talked quite a

lot, she sat down with me and took a coffee herself etc.

She sold the coffeeshop almost a year ago and said

at that time that we could keep in touch, maybe have lunch etc.. I gave her my number and basically forgot about it

(since I know that "let's eat lunch" often means "let's *not* eat lunch").

By pure chance I met her again

some weeks ago. She was glad to see me and once again said that we should keep in touch. She gave me her

cellphone-number and actually stood close beside me to make sure I programmed it correct into my mobile.

I

said that "I'll sms you later so you get my number".

I tried to sms her twice some days after that (since I

saw that my first sms "bounced"), but there was no answer. I called her and got her voicemail.

So I sms'ed

her again (and saw that it indeed was delivered) and said that it was easier if she was striaght if she had changed

her mind about lunch etc. instead of me "chasing her".

Then I just let it go. 2 sms and 1 call is

enough...

But I am confused here. WTH was she so eager giving me her number, but after that just ignoring

me?

Anybody?

// rw

[belgareth]

There could be any number of

reasons. I think somehting similar has happened to all of us. I gave up even trying to figure it out. She probably

has what is a perfectly reasonable explanation in her eyes but you'll probably not ever hear it. Forget it, it

isn't going to get you anywhere.

[Pancho1188]

She may just not have had the

time to get back to you...and you just pulled a George Costanza (a la "The Phone Message") by calling and freaking

out on her about it. I hate when people do that to me, too, but then I think about times I have done it. Just the

other week my best friend from HS called me, and I have yet to get back to him. It's not that I don't want to,

it's just that I had stuff going on and then became sick. As soon as I get better and have time to talk, I'm

going to call him...

There's always the off chance that she did want to call but didn't have time...I hope

that, like the episode of Seinfeld, she finds your panic funny, or else she'll just take you as pushy for being

hung up on that lunch and never end up calling you.

Sorry, man. If it's not that, it's what Bel said.

[seduceme]

Listen, just cause she's

eager to give you her phone number DOESNT MEAN SHE WANTS YOU! Some women do enjoy the validation of being 'chased'

by alot of guys. She set the trap, you fell into it. You shouldnt even have volunteered your phone# by saying

you'll give her an SMS, keep HER hanging if you'll call her or not. Too validated and she wont be interested in

you.

[happyman]

Listen,

just cause she's eager to give you her phone number DOESNT MEAN SHE WANTS YOU! Some women do enjoy the validation

of being 'chased' by alot of guys. She set the trap, you fell into it. You shouldnt even have volunteered your

phone# by saying you'll give her an SMS, keep HER hanging if you'll call her or not. Too validated and she wont be

interested in you.

__________________________________________________ _______________

Calling

someone to have lunch once or sending sombody your number because a person stated they would is hardly falling into

any type of trap.

If that is the case I guess nobody could ever go ahead and make the first move right? So

there should really be nobody ever calling anyone in fear of falling into the "trap".

Now if he called her

again three days in a row that might look a little desperate on his part.

You did the right thing. You were

a man and did what you said you were gonna do. Women do this fucking thing ALL the time and it is really imature. I

would say give it a week and try her cell phone again and don't mention you called her and didn't recieve a

response. Be casual about it.

Happy

[surfs_up]

The downside of being physically attractive, unusually physically attractive, or double trouble, rich and unsually

physically attractive is that the world cuts them slack... look, this sucks, but pretty people get away with

behaviors that average people don't. It isn't fair, that's how it works though. The flip side of this is that the

beautiful people don't get tested every day they way the ugli people do. Non-beautifuls have to work harder, put on

some serious coping skills muscle, learn to deal with rejection, know what it means to empathize. Beautifuls have to

cope with another load of shit... I know from this one having been in a relationship with an extremely beautiful...

traffic stopping beautiful woman, gen-u-wine supermodel grade girl... guys lose their self control, they get

celebrity nutty, it's like temporary madness, this fantasy object of their dreams right before their eyes, all

their resentments and hungers and strange stuff that went on during their potty training phase, and all the babes

that rejected them and all the playboy centerfolds, every wet dream and lonely boner swirling around in their

skulls, other women get vengefully spiteful, step on their toes, deliberately crash into them, do anything to take

them down a notch, writhing in their non-supermodel less-fuckable maybe green card but not platinum card seething

envy...
Beauty is a weird place, it sets you above and everybody seems to be gunning for you at the same time.

Think of what the women are enduring, every "funny and cocky" shithead lout slobbering over her with lines she's

heard maybe 2000 times before, creepy older guys affecting sublime sugar daddy attitudes...
It's perverse,

isn't it... you have the opportunity to see the human race at its most needful, egotistic, hormone revved, not to

speak of radically selfish, your perfect flesh will make me whole, Omigod baby your glorious tits your perfect skin

the soft blond down hair on your exquisite taut but rounded belly will flush away my imperfection yes goddess take

me in your hand like a lump of coal and crush me into a diamond be the ty-d-bol blue cleansing liquid in the foul

toilet of my existence... yes, baby, that's it, come sit on poppa's face we'll drive the amalfi coast in my

ferrrari we will and kanoodle with eurotrash on the greek islands and wear minks and have our faces done by the same

guy who did Liz Taylor and snort pharmaceutical grade cocaine and attend opening night.....
And all this time

you really wanted a tuna sandwich.

[MOBLEYC57]

we'll drive the

amalfi coast

Amalfi coast ... One of the most beautiful sights I have ever seen in my life!! A

voman vould be pleased to sit your face and view such a sight!!

[Holmes]

The downside of

being physically attractive, unusually physically attractive, or double trouble, rich and unsually physically

attractive is that the world cuts them slack... look, this sucks, but pretty people get away with behaviors that

average people don't. It isn't fair, that's how it works though. The flip side of this is that the beautiful

people don't get tested every day they way the ugli people do. Non-beautifuls have to work harder, put on some

serious coping skills muscle, learn to deal with rejection, know what it means to empathize. Beautifuls have to cope

with another load of shit... I know from this one having been in a relationship with an extremely beautiful...

traffic stopping beautiful woman, gen-u-wine supermodel grade girl... guys lose their self control, they get

celebrity nutty, it's like temporary madness, this fantasy object of their dreams right before their eyes, all

their resentments and hungers and strange stuff that went on during their potty training phase, and all the babes

that rejected them and all the playboy centerfolds, every wet dream and lonely boner swirling around in their

skulls, other women get vengefully spiteful, step on their toes, deliberately crash into them, do anything to take

them down a notch, writhing in their non-supermodel less-fuckable maybe green card but not platinum card seething

envy...
Beauty is a weird place, it sets you above and everybody seems to be gunning for you at the same time.

Think of what the women are enduring, every "funny and cocky" shithead lout slobbering over her with lines she's

heard maybe 2000 times before, creepy older guys affecting sublime sugar daddy attitudes...
It's perverse,

isn't it... you have the opportunity to see the human race at its most needful, egotistic, hormone revved, not to

speak of radically selfish, your perfect flesh will make me whole, Omigod baby your glorious tits your perfect skin

the soft blond down hair on your exquisite taut but rounded belly will flush away my imperfection yes goddess take

me in your hand like a lump of coal and crush me into a diamond be the ty-d-bol blue cleansing liquid in the foul

toilet of my existence... yes, baby, that's it, come sit on poppa's face we'll drive the amalfi coast in my

ferrrari we will and kanoodle with eurotrash on the greek islands and wear minks and have our faces done by the same

guy who did Liz Taylor and snort pharmaceutical grade cocaine and attend opening night.....
And all this time

you really wanted a tuna sandwich.

Uh...I'll have what he's having.

[DrSmellThis]

Uh...I'll have

what he's having.

Make that a double for me.

[silksand]

I think it's just silly (or

paranoid ... or gamey) to assume she's playing you - that's what you did when you made the G. Costanza phone call

(never a good idea!)

As Bel and Pancho said, all kinds of life situations can intervene between giving the

number and getting the call. The way you told the story, given that you've had a nice connection with this woman in

the past, that's the way it reads to me. Better to be a little forgiving and let it go, let folks take their own

time - it will get you a lot farther in the long run.

PS:
If a guy assumes that all women are

gameplayers, he will inevitably miss out on the great ones who are not!

[seduceme]

I think it's

just silly (or paranoid ... or gamey) to assume she's playing you - that's what you did when you made the G.

Costanza phone call (never a good idea!)

As Bel and Pancho said, all kinds of life situations can intervene

between giving the number and getting the call. The way you told the story, given that you've had a nice connection

with this woman in the past, that's the way it reads to me. Better to be a little forgiving and let it go, let

folks take their own time - it will get you a lot farther in the long run.

PS:
If a guy assumes that all

women are gameplayers, he will inevitably miss out on the great ones who are not!

Youre a female

right?

[Pancho1188]

I think it's

just silly (or paranoid ... or gamey) to assume she's playing you - that's what you did when you made the G.

Costanza phone call (never a good idea!)

As Bel and Pancho said, all kinds of life situations can intervene

between giving the number and getting the call. The way you told the story, given that you've had a nice connection

with this woman in the past, that's the way it reads to me. Better to be a little forgiving and let it go, let

folks take their own time - it will get you a lot farther in the long run.

PS:
If a guy assumes that all women

are gameplayers, he will inevitably miss out on the great ones who are not!

I somehow end up with the ones

who are afraid because too great of a guy came too early in their life plans...

No, I'm not kidding. I've had

one girl that wouldn't go out with me because she knew it would be a serious, meaningful relationship and, after

just being cheated on by her ex, was afraid to get hurt because she knew she would fall in love with me if she did

(she actually told me this later...when we finally started going out). I have another one (yes, present tense) that

wouldn't go out with me because she "doesn't get close to people" and she knew I was only too good at cutting the

crap and getting straight to true feelings...she felt herself getting too attached to me and broke away (she told me

this, too...while it was happening).

In other words, I could use a game player...despite the fact that I

couldn't get one because I don't put up with crap and I refuse to play along. My loss or my gain, depending on

how you look at it...

Ohhhh, that's right. Please excuse me. Females aren't allowed on this

thread, are they? It's strictly a male circle-jerk (pun intended)

Sorry, SilkSand...we got rid of those a

long time ago. I almost went blind one time, so Bel put a stop to them. Sure, it's all fun and games 'til

somebody gets hurt...

In other words, you're welcome here.

[silksand]

Ohhhh, that's right. Please

excuse me. Females aren't allowed on this thread, are they? It's strictly a male circle-jerk (pun intended)

[belgareth]

Ohhhh, that's

right. Please excuse me. Females aren't allowed on this thread, are they? It's strictly a male circle-jerk (pun

intended)

Silksand,

You are always welcome to an opinion here. Personally, I'd listen to a woman's

opinion about how women think long before any so called 'pick up artist'. I imagine that there is a huge silent

majority that don't play all those silly games. I certainly don't and would not waste my time with any woman who

did. I'm not a pick up artist but have had a number of excellent relationships with some wonderful women, none of

whom played games with me.

It all depends on what and who you are seeking.

[silksand]

Bel, I know you are not like

that, nor are the great majority of the men here. I've been very impressed with the quality of posts by most of the

current regulars (and lots of past regulars, too). This board attracts a lot of kind, perceptive and thoughtful

people and I appreciate you all.

My post was intended solely for seduceme and in fact I was just going to

delete it, feeling that it was pointless. But now alas I've been quoted

oh well!

live and

learn...

[seduceme]

Ohhhh, that's

right. Please excuse me. Females aren't allowed on this thread, are they? It's strictly a male circle-jerk (pun

intended)

Hell yeah why would I otherwise put that smiley at the end of my post? Geeze..

[TexasHoldem22]

side notes:
Let me make

one thing clear before anything else: Women DONT make the first call. EVER. not even the second call.
They are not

mentally trained to pick up your number, go over the phone and ask for you. You know how nervous we feel when we

wana call some chick we like for the first time. how you dont know what to say and so forth. well, they go through

this too, but only the realize they dont have to do it. why should they be persuading some guy to come put? Thats

the guy's job. What if they call adn you reject them... how are they gonna feel then? you see where im going with

this?

[belgareth]

Silksand,

I liked your

reply myself.

A day or two ago, Wood Elf and a few of her friends were reading some of the advice about women on

the forum and laughing themselves silly. She didn't want to post anything assuming that anybody would recognize it

for what it is. A lot of it is pretty bad though, isn't it?

[silksand]

Silksand,



I liked your reply myself.

A day or two ago, Wood Elf and a few of her friends were reading some of the

advice about women on the forum and laughing themselves silly. She didn't want to post anything assuming that

anybody would recognize it for what it is. A lot of it is pretty bad though, isn't it?

Well, uh, yes

Bel ... it is! It is sometimes good for a laugh, and sometimes it's pretty darn close to what I might call "hate

speech" and I get concerned for the young men who come here looking for "The Teaching," haha. But that will sort

itself out in time, and I don't think they need protecting - just an alternate voice, and many of us here seem

willing to give that.

The ones I really think about are the young women. I wish all 12-year-old girls could

be required to read the "article" in the current thread called "The Truth About Women" which would effectively

inoculate them against that type of behavior.

[belgareth]

The ones I

really think about are the young women. I wish all 12-year-old girls could be required to read the "article" in the

current thread called "The Truth About Women" which would effectively inoculate them against that type of

behavior.

Belgareth reaches for his soapbox, sets it in the middle of the room and climbs up on it...



If more fathers would take the time to teach their young daughters how they should really be treated, the attitude

towards women displayed here would be minimized. How are they supposed to understand how a real man is supposed to

behave other than by example? The father's job as role model has been sorely neglected in our society.

[silksand]

Agree wholeheartedly - and it

goes without saying that their *sons* might not feel so lost around how to behave with women, either.

[belgareth]

Agree

wholeheartedly - and it goes without saying that their *sons* might not feel so lost around how to behave with

women, either.

True. I haven't had to deal with that too much as I have all daughters. It's interesting

to see the kinds of guys they bring home compared to their friends. Only one has had to be chased away. Did you know

I collect swords? Great way to convince young men to be respectful to my daughters.

[satyrboy]

Belgareth

reaches for his soapbox, sets it in the middle of the room and climbs up on it...

If more fathers would take the

time to teach their young daughters how they should really be treated, the attitude towards women displayed here

would be minimized. How are they supposed to understand how a real man is supposed to behave other than by example?

The father's job as role model has been sorely neglected in our society.

I'm coming into this thread

late. Actually it's very simple to teach your daughter how a woman should be treated. I treat my wife the way I

hope my daughter will be treated. She's a smart kid, she'll figure it out.

[satyrboy]

I hope I don't offend anyone

too badly with this, but if you ever want a giggle go to the no more mr nice guy forum.

C'mon, where did all

this melodramatic people come from?!

I don't think the issue with that site and its acolytes has anything to

do with "nice." More like abscence of self esteem, self respect, and quite possibly the developement of a new

species: Homo invertebrus.

[wood elf]

I'm coming

into this thread late. Actually it's very simple to teach your daughter how a woman should be treated. I treat my

wife the way I hope my daughter will be treated. She's a smart kid, she'll figure it out.

Belgareth does

the same and has three smart daughters who understand to stay away from those types of men. He also talks to them

about men and relationships so he knows they will not stand to be treated as less than the young ladies they are.



I do not like to think what might happen to the young man that mistreats his daughter. The only times I have seen

him angry is when he was defending one of them. I fear some young man will learn a harsh and unpleasant lesson about

honor.

[esk6969]

Ugh... I can't resist. I have

to respond.

Are we really positing, on a pheromone board, that the "science of attraction" (where have I heard

that phrase before), does not have behavioral elements that can be catalogued, and replicated, in order to produce

similar experiences amongst different people?

Understand, most "pick up artists" (which I am not), or guys who

read the "seduction" sites (which I am), are not ONLY looking to "get laid". But, um, yeah - that's a big part of

it! This is LOVE-scent.com, correct?

Further, please know that, there is a specific reason most guys want to

get laid, fast, beyond the mere physical urge. It's a sad, and dreary place that we know as - "the friend zone".

I'm not sure if there was ever a Seinfeld episode on THAT, but I do know that every guy has experienced it. He's

head over heels for a girl that diplays all kinds of signs of interest, so, when he tries to escalate things to a

more sexual level (which is a normal and healthy thing to do in a romantic relationship, yes?), he here's those

dreaded words - "let's just be friends".

Right or wrong, it is a part of the modern dating ethos that -

before you have sex, you're "just friends". After that you're - something different. That could be any number of

things, but at least there are options - unlike the "friend zone" which, once entered into, there is no escape.



Silksand, guys have figured out that "I really like you as a friend, I think you're a great friend", when coming

from a woman they have a romantic interest in, isn't a compliment.

This goes right to the heart of all the "bad

seduction advice" - much of it is based on a saying from one of the first guys to quantify behaviorial techniques

and apply them to seduction - his statement was "I don't care what women want. I only care what they respond to."

BTW, this isn't a big secret. He said that, on the Oprah show (obviously, promoting his materials.) And no, I

don't have his materials, LOL.

Within that statement, there is an implied truth - that the difference between

what women SAY they want, and what women REALLY want, is different. That's where all the "bad advice" comes from.

Right there.

And really, can you blame most men for being confused? How many guys, who are/were genuinely

honest, nice guys, have "played therapist" to a woman they were romantically interested in, who had a boyfriend who

treated her like crap, that she complained about all the time? Who said she "only wanted a nice guy", when one was

sitting right in front of her? Who, when he tried to point that out, got - you guessed it - "let's just be

friends".

And they wonder why these guys become bitter?

Silksand, I'm glad to have you as part of this

discussion, you're certainly not "unwelcome", on the contrary. But, you've engaged this discussion, so I think

it's reasonable to ask an honest question of you:

Have you ever, in your life, allowed a guy who you knew you

were *not* romantically interested in, to take you out, buy you dinners, gifts, pay for things, spend a somewhat

signifigant amount of time & money with you, who displayed clear signs of romantic intent? While all the while,

knowing that your attraction was not mutual? And if so, how did you handle the situation? Were you honest with him

about it, and at what point? Did you finally breech the discussion, or did he, and after how long?

I am

genuinely interested to hear your answer.

[MOBLEYC57]

D I S R E S P E C T F U L & R U

D E, dem dar, she is. With the exception of death or sickness, one should never lose sight of those two words.

Especially when it doesn't cost one Lincoln (penny).

Do not lose sleep over it, but as the rest of the world

... there's always more interest in what we can't/couldn't control/have.

T'wat vill be

vill be. Hey, sara, sara?

[Pancho1188]

Are we really

positing, on a pheromone board, that the "science of attraction" (where have I heard that phrase before), does not

have behavioral elements that can be catalogued, and replicated, in order to produce similar experiences amongst

different people?

Understand, most "pick up artists" (which I am not), or guys who read the "seduction" sites

(which I am), are not ONLY looking to "get laid". But, um, yeah - that's a big part of it! This is LOVE-scent.com,

correct?

You are correct, but on this site we try to promote positive viewing of the art of attraction...as

in bettering yourself so you can get more women (hence the -mones)...not learning to scam women. Every vet on here

knows that -mones won't have women falling all over him, so we know that you have to have strong attractive

qualities as well. Therefore, promoting the assumption of these qualities, in which the behaviors should follow,

seems to be more to our liking than trying to find exactly how to "trick" women into sleeping with you while wearing

-mones.

It's a fine line, but you can see it if you look at a vet's posts on this forum compared to the more

devious "pick-up artist" posts on a seduction site. You're right, though. Not everyone is looking just for more

sex, and not everyone has a bitter view of the game or the opposite sex. We just try to discourage people from

learning from the ones who do. Why? Because learning about the qualities that cause the behaviors is more

fulfilling and successful in the long-term compared to learning the specifics for a "quick fix" or fast lay.

[silksand]

Ugh... I can't

resist. I have to respond.

Are we really positing, on a pheromone board, that the "science of attraction"

(where have I heard that phrase before), does not have behavioral elements that can be catalogued, and replicated,

in order to produce similar experiences amongst different people?

Of course not! But *empty*

replication of behaviors makes you ... a replicant! If you ARE an excellent dude with all the shiny behaviors to

match, the chicks will come (not the player chicks, so if you want one (or multiples) of those, stop reading now).

Further, please know that, there is a specific reason most guys want to get laid, fast, beyond the

mere physical urge. It's a sad, and dreary place that we know as - "the friend zone". I'm not sure if there was

ever a Seinfeld episode on THAT, but I do know that every guy has experienced it. He's head over heels for a girl

that diplays all kinds of signs of interest, so, when he tries to escalate things to a more sexual level (which is a

normal and healthy thing to do in a romantic relationship, yes?), he here's those dreaded words - "let's just be

friends".

Right or wrong, it is a part of the modern dating ethos that - before you have sex, you're

"just friends". After that you're - something different. That could be any number of things, but at least there

are options - unlike the "friend zone" which, once entered into, there is no escape.

Silksand, guys have

figured out that "I really like you as a friend, I think you're a great friend", when coming from a woman they have

a romantic interest in, isn't a compliment.

You know, the "friend" thing IS a compliment, but if

you are looking for a lover, it's also a rejection of that quest. Just face it. It's not because you're not doing

the game right, you're just not doing it for her. She's not interested in you, move on!! Becoming a player is not

going to get you those girls. Sad but true.

And really, can you blame most men for being

confused? How many guys, who are/were genuinely honest, nice guys, have "played therapist" to a woman they were

romantically interested in, who had a boyfriend who treated her like crap, that she complained about all the time?

Who said she "only wanted a nice guy", when one was sitting right in front of her? Who, when he tried to point that

out, got - you guessed it - "let's just be friends".

And they wonder why these guys become bitter?

So your implication seems to be that if he's good enough to be her friend, and she says she wants a

nice guy, she should lay him? Uh, maybe he just doesn't ring her chimes sexually (could be his looks, his smell,

his personality, any number of things that might not disqualify him as a friend but do put him out of the running as

a boyfriend).

Silksand, I'm glad to have you as part of this discussion, you're certainly not

"unwelcome", on the contrary. But, you've engaged this discussion, so I think it's reasonable to ask an honest

question of you:

Have you ever, in your life, allowed a guy who you knew you were *not* romantically

interested in, to take you out, buy you dinners, gifts, pay for things, spend a somewhat signifigant amount of time

& money with you, who displayed clear signs of romantic intent? While all the while, knowing that your attraction

was not mutual? And if so, how did you handle the situation? Were you honest with him about it, and at what point?

Did you finally breech the discussion, or did he, and after how long?

I am genuinely interested to hear

your answer.

This is going to really disappoint you, but no. There is only one story that even

approaches this topic: One time when I was a freshman in college, and this geeky redhaired guy, very smart, very

funny, I really liked him, asked me to go with him to a (free) movie. I was really happy, hoping to have a friend in

him. Then we went back to his room and he got me extremely high (I'd never smoked anything in my life before that)

and made some rather sudden moves. Much more than I had in my mind with him. I was not attracted to him and did not

see this as a "date." At that point, in my Thai stick haze, I made it clear that I was very interested in friendship

with him, but he apparently wasn't because I never heard from him again, and that's cool. He wanted a lover and I

wasn't it; c'est la vie.

I don't tend to let men spend money on me in excess of what I spend on them. I

prefer to keep the power shared, and nobody owes anybody anything. I certainly don't lead anyone on, what for? If

someone makes it clear they have romantic intentions that I don't share, I find it very uncomfortable to perpetuate

the situation and move very quickly to clear it up. Otherwise people get more hurt than they would otherwise

be.

I have several times been seriously involved with 2 people at once, and staying emotionally clean (i.e.,

taking care of everybody's feelings and all the time & communication involved) in that kind of arena takes way more

energy than I care to give it anymore. At that point, it becomes almost a profession.

[seduceme]

Now, the

"friend" thing IS a compliment, but if you are looking for a lover, it's also a rejection of that quest. Just face

it. It's not because you're not doing the game right, you're just not doing it for her. She's not interested in

you, move on!! Becoming a player is not going to get you those girls. Sad but

true.

WRONG!!
Im the living example of the contradiction to that fact.
Not that I

would call me a player, but if you mean that altering your behavior and calibrating to a specific girl who just

wants to be friends and getting her to think otherwise of you then yes Im the living example of _that_. Its not

rocketscience but it does require effort and a will to learn and apply to real life circumstances.

This is going to really disappoint you, but no. There is only one story that even

approaches this topic: One time when I was a freshman in college, and this geeky redhaired guy, very smart, very

funny, I really liked him, asked me to go with him to a (free) movie. I was really happy, hoping to have a friend in

him. Then we went back to his room and he got me extremely high (I'd never smoked anything in my life before that)

and made some rather sudden moves. Much more than I had in my mind with him. I was not attracted to him and did not

see this as a "date." At that point, in my Thai stick haze, I made it clear that I was very interested in friendship

with him, but he apparently wasn't because I never heard from him again, and that's cool. He wanted a lover and I

wasn't it; c'est la vie.

Correction, he wanted _YOU_ as a lover, not just a lover.