The truth about women.

[TRock]

as far as I see it,

and i know im gonna get biched at, if you aint manipulating, then you're getting manipulated. all women ive seen

manipulate, so why not play their game?

its everywhere, look at adveritsing, $200 pair of shoes because some rap

star wears them? THEY'RE SHOES MAN!

Who actually writes the truth on their resumes? Anyone who wants a job

will lie on it to make themeselves look better. isnt that manipulating the boss into thinking you are a better

candidate for the job than the other person? its not like the boss will ever manipulate the workers. LOL

its all

about having power, and manipulation is the easiest way to get it.

yeah you're in the game regardless if

you like it or not. now do you want to be a player in the game or get played.

[puule]

yeah you're in the

game regardless if you like it or not. now do you want to be a player in the game or get played.

And thats

my point!

[chicago]

i agree with you

guys
________
Honda Mr50

[Pancho1188]

It's only a game if you make

it one.

The "game" you are referring to is the desperation of men trying to sleep with women who may or may not

want them, so the men have to play to win. Those with a little patience and natural charm could get women without

trying, or "playing".

The women I've slept with have all been people I've hit it off with and just felt the

connection. I didn't have to do a damn thing besides be myself and let the chemistry do the talking for me. If

that makes me a good player, then great...but I'll be the first but not the only person to admit that I don't play

the game and have no interest in it whatsoever. Love is supposed to be fun...not work. It sounds like people are

working too hard. If that's their choice, so be it.

You can only get played if you put yourself in the game.

You're under the assumption that everyone wants or chooses to play. You're not even in the right forum for that

argument, as so many people on here are out of the game and have been for years. Then you have guys like Bel who

get women and have never posted a thing regarding trying to pick anyone up. I'm not about to think what would

happen if I suggested that Wood Elf was played and Bel was the player.

[TRock]

i take it that you don't run in a

high status crowd or go clubbing.

[Pancho1188]

If you go clubbing to pick up

chicks, then you are putting yourself in the game. With that pretense, of course your post is correct.

If by

"high status" (since you mention it like it's a requirement to be a player to be considered high status) you are

referring to having to keep up a player persona to remain in a social circle...no, I'm not.

What I call being

satisfied not trying to deceive people, you call being played. What you call high status, I call being fake or

conformist (after all, to qualify, you have to assimilate, or "play the part" just as you described having to play

the game).

So we can agree to disagree on this topic. I can live with that. I can't say you're wrong in your

belief that one must play in your situation, but I believe you're wrong in thinking that that's the only way to be

successful.




Rejected alternative response:

Hey, don't #&$% with me. I've been to a gay bar,

bitch!

[Holmes]

Latex, latex, latex.



Otherwise, yeah.

[belgareth]

Thanks Pancho and you are

right. Neither of us or the people we run with would ever consider playing the absurd games we read about from some

of the forum members. It's true that we don't go clubbing but in reality that crowd is a very small and often

troublesome segment of any community.

Status and it's importance in your life is entirely subjective. In my

own completely subjective opinion, the successful business owners, civic leaders, educational and scientific

professionals we associate with are high enough status for us. They have the added benefit of rarely becoming drunk

and/or obnoxious. I can't really recall any of them wasting their time playing the kind of games described here.

Yet we all have relationships with others, many are very attractive and almost all with good minds that make them

interesting company outside the bedroom.

Pancho is also right that you can only get played if you place yourself

in the arena with people who play. I believe that players are not the majority of men or women. Rather, I believe

that most would much prefer an honest and sincere relationship.

I can tell you what would happen if I had tried

to play Wood Elf, she'd have laughed in my face! I never would have stood the slightest chance of getting to know

and having a relationship with a fantastic woman.

You are free to choose the type world you live in but you

should have enough of an open mind to realize there is a lot more to this world than that tiny portion you live

in.

[Pancho1188]

I forgot to mention that what

really pisses me off about "The Game"...





...his beef with 50 Cent.

[Holmes]

They should

barbeque each other.