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    Actually hanging out with

    'naturals' is the way to go.

    I've spent some time in a house of 5 cool 20 something year old naturals.


    Its fun to see the dynamics, because one was the gorgeous model-looks with a rapport-approach.
    Another was a

    less attractive assholish type.
    A third was a big buff dominant type.
    Etc..

    Thing is , they all got

    laid alot and could hold alot of relationships, charm women.

    Problem is , when youre out with 3 other guys

    in the calvin-klein-underwear-model-caliber you need to DROP THE EGO(not act jealous or insecure, shy etc) kick

    back, observe how they behave and try to be as cool of a guy as them(but NOT in a tryhard way, people DO notice

    that). Then if you can figure out WHERE theyre coming from then you will get the 'inner-game' down. One big aspect

    is the fact of how validated you feel.

    People who look good naturally feel validated pretty much all the

    time, not being insecure, not being jealous, not being shy, not hiding their sexuality, etc.

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    But one way (one of the best

    ways) of getting inner game is to "fake it until you make it".

    The only problem is you have to have thick

    skin so you can deal with the rejection over and over again.

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    Well competence is NEEDED for

    confidence in a situation.
    Competence equals knowledge and experience.
    Faking it is all about gaining

    experience, surely you'll seek knowledge aswell as draw your own conclusions from the results and reactions from

    experience, thus gaining competence and ultimately confidence. Confidence, something all naturals have when

    interacting sexually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seduceme
    Actually hanging

    out with 'naturals' is the way to go.

    I've spent some time in a house of 5 cool 20 something year old

    naturals.
    Its fun to see the dynamics, because one was the gorgeous model-looks with a rapport-approach.
    Another

    was a less attractive assholish type.
    A third was a big buff dominant type.
    Etc..

    Thing is , they all got laid

    alot and could hold alot of relationships, charm women.

    Problem is , when youre out with 3 other guys in the

    calvin-klein-underwear-model-caliber you need to DROP THE EGO(not act jealous or insecure, shy etc) kick back,

    observe how they behave and try to be as cool of a guy as them(but NOT in a tryhard way, people DO notice that).

    Then if you can figure out WHERE theyre coming from then you will get the 'inner-game' down. One big aspect is the

    fact of how validated you feel.

    People who look good naturally feel validated pretty much all the time, not

    being insecure, not being jealous, not being shy, not hiding their sexuality, etc.
    yeah that's very

    important, having cool friends and naturals. afcs carry too much negative energy. my roommate is an afc, he's like

    a drain on my positive energy. if i'm stuck in the house with him for 1 day, i feel like my social skills

    deteriate.

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    He lacks validation, its all

    about validation.

    If you are massively validated, as a person, internally you WILL be percieved as

    attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    yeah that's very

    important, having cool friends and naturals. afcs carry too much negative energy. my roommate is an afc, he's like

    a drain on my positive energy. if i'm stuck in the house with him for 1 day, i feel like my social skills

    deteriate.
    Is he aware that he's an afc and that he's giving off too much negative energy?

    And does he know about Ross and DeAngelo?
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    yeah he's aware. he sees me and

    my friends bascally own girls when we want. if you lived with him you know what i mean, atleast he pays the rent. i

    try to tell him what he's doing wrong but he actually argues with me that he has game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    yeah he's aware.

    he sees me and my friends bascally own girls when we want. if you lived with him you know what i mean, atleast he

    pays the rent. i try to tell him what he's doing wrong but he actually argues with me that he has

    game.
    That's funny!

    He isn't able to see that you and your freinds get laid a whole bunch

    more than he does?

    You'd think that reality would slap him numerous times (getting progressivly harder on

    each successive slap) accross the face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    yeah he's aware. he

    sees me and my friends bascally own girls when we want. if you lived with him you know what i mean, atleast he pays

    the rent. i try to tell him what he's doing wrong but he actually argues with me that he has

    game.
    Damn. Trapped in his own gameless paradigm. Is he happy with that? Comfortable in his misery?



    Hey, at least you've tried to help the poor guy...
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    So by faking it until you make it,

    basicly is working on your outergame, until that, in it's self becomes your inner game.

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    Maybe this will throw some light

    on "inner game" for you.

    What is the

    Inner Game?


    Just dumb luck, I ran a google search and found this.

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    Not bad, good

    find!

    The outer game is played on an external arena to overcome external obstacles to reach an

    external goal. The inner game takes place within the mind of the player and is played against such obstacles as

    fear, self-doubt, lapses in focus, and limiting concepts or assumptions. The inner game is played to overcome the

    self-imposed obstacles that prevent an individual or team from accessing their full potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    yeah that's very

    important, having cool friends and naturals. afcs carry too much negative energy. my roommate is an afc, he's like

    a drain on my positive energy. if i'm stuck in the house with him for 1 day, i feel like my social skills

    deteriate.
    LOL - I know what you mean.

    I live in the North Bay, which is North of San

    Francisco.

    I would ride into SF with my AFC wing to go clubbing, and by the time we got to the Golden Gate

    Bridge, I felt like telling him to drop me off at mid-span so I could jump off.

    That's how draining his

    negative AFC-ness was on me.

    Not to mention how he would find something wrong with every set I suggested we

    open.

    After going thru a period of that, I dumped all the negative, woe-is-me, it's not my fault type people

    in my life and my success went up by about 50% at least.

    People like that will drain you and bring you down

    to their level.

    I have mixed feelings about Ross Jeffries, but the most valuable piece of information I

    gained from him is to "shitcan" the negative people in your life.

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    Innergame is you, your

    personality, your beliefs, your traits. Your character.

    Being that the sum of all your thoughts are

    your character thus innergame = your thoughts.


    Besides, youre hurting your roommates PRIDE by trying to

    show him. He has an image of himself, which may differ alot from reality. Thus to protect his ego he thinks he has

    game, and when someone tries to show him it implies he doesnt, or that youre above him, something he doesnt think to

    protect his ego. THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO SEEK RAPPORT! Get rapport, misery loves misery. Get down on his level and

    then slowly start to change, lead him in the teacher/student direction. Feel his misery, his anxiousness, then

    subtly out of the blue and slowly show him something small, then let him ponder it, then show him some more etc

    etc.. Theres something to the truth behind The teacher will appear, when the student is ready.

    Hell of a lot

    better than coming in in a SS uniforum with a whip screaming at the top of your lungs to vivid explainatory pictures

    on how to do it.

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    that's true but i'm not really

    in the mood to do that. i'm just gonna let him wallow in his own misery. if he wants help he's gonna get it on my

    terms. i really just want him to shut up with his limiting beliefs and not talk about them around me.

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    So you want to keep the cake,

    and eat it at the same time?
    Aint gonna work mr diplomat..

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    Can you lease the cake with an

    option to buy?

    This guy sounds like the type who will never do anything about it unless someone is on his

    ass.
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    The problem with these type of

    people is that they really don't want to change - they're so used to being miserable and depressed that they

    somehow perversely like it, and want to draw others down into that reality.

    I've tried to help my AFC,

    woe-is-me friend for several years in several ways, but finally had to cut ties with him because he not only seemed

    to enjoy wallowing in his misery, but he absolutley refused to even consider the possibility that he is the problem

    and not the hundreds of women that have rejected him over the years and continue to do so.

    Ever see the scene

    in "Swingers" where Mikey calls Nikki like 6 times in a row at 2:30 AM the same night he got her number?

    This

    guy does shit like that. All the time. And he's 44 years old. He just doesn't get it.

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    eeesh. I know some guys like that

    in school, I tell 'em that's rediculous but they just don't seem to get it.

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    OK today in DD newsletter, he

    states himself:

    By "inner game", I mean things like your emotions,
    your outlook on life, your

    "mental map" of how things
    work between men and women, etc.
    Thanks guys for the

    clarification.

    I'm getting good on my inner game, and being less of a wussy. When I get to college, I'm

    going to be soo freaking prepared for relationships with, heh, women. A lot of the dating teqnuiqes don't work well

    for highschool situations because most of the people are really imature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seduceme
    So you want to

    keep the cake, and eat it at the same time?
    Aint gonna work mr diplomat..
    nobody cares for your success

    or failure with women except for yourself....well except for maybe your parents. last i check i wasn't his mommy or

    daddy. so i don't feel the need to sugar coat my advice. i offer him advice he can take it or leave it.

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    You forgot therapists, but then

    again they do it for the money and they eventually do help, the way I bluntly described it.

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