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    ohhh alright, that makes

    sence. thx

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    Default The creation of an Oud addict

    Big Bump!

    Okay, I ordered my Oud sampler from Oriscent on Thursday and it arrived today (Sat) in CA. What

    service!

    "Hmmm... tiny little vials... let's open up this one that says "China Sweet"... whoa! harsh smell-- a

    bit like turpentine... let me wipe this little dipstick across my wrist--- wow! hmm... very earthy odor, changing by

    the minute-- now it reminds me of hash oil I haven't smelled in 20 years-- I can't resist whiffing it a lot--

    it's so primal and familiar, yet like nothing I've ever smelled before... I'm getting light headed... better sit

    down"

    I can see how this might make the ultimate all-natural cover scent... I can't wait to get out in public

    and try it with some A7-- when I can walk straight again!

    I'll keep you posted...

    -CAt

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    So now I've been using Oud

    every day for a few days.

    This stuff is amazing. I'm hooked. I can't believe how the scent evolves during the

    day on my skin.

    And I can't imagine a more perfect cover for mones. The way it blends with unscented A7, SOE,

    and A1 is perfect.

    Thanks you guys!!!

    -CAt

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    Glad you like it. Oud isn't to

    everybody's taste. Look back through the thread, there is a link for Ham Furl. He's a good resource for a wide

    variety at decent prices. Good guy to deal with.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Thanks Bel!

    I already

    found Ham Firl in the thread and have been in contact with him.

    I must admit that of the Oriscent samplers I

    like ones that are more sweet and floral (Sweet China & Borneo Green) than Assam Organic which smells way too much

    like a barnyard to me. I can't get past the extreme musky, almost fecal quality. Perhaps over time I will acquire a

    taste for the more musky varieties (like over time I went from a white wine guy to only Cabs and Zins), but for now

    I think I will stick with the sweeter Ouds.

    What can you recommend-- Ham Firl provides little in the way of

    scent notes, though for sweeter Ouds he suggested Kalimantan, Vietnamese, and Burmese Minchina. Which

    of these have you tried? What do you think?

    And have you tried the Borneo 3000 at Oriscent?

    Your scenting

    notes would be appreciated.

    Best,

    CAt

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    I'm the last person to ask for

    information about scenting notes, being very poor at describing them. QT will give you far better information than I

    can. I do agree about the Assam Organic, though. No, I haven't tried the Borneo 3000.

    My personal taste ranges

    more towards the musky but away from the fecal/barnyard smell. In general the darker the oil the muskier the scent.

    I'm older, so that might explain the taste difference. Sweet ones just don't do it for me so my questions have all

    been directed that way.
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    Thanks again Bel,

    I'll

    see if I can get more scenting notes from Ham Firl. If any of the rest of you have recommendations for sweeter

    varieties of Oud oils, please let me know. And if anyone has tried the Borneo 3000 from Oriscent, please let me

    know.

    Best,

    CAt

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    Just bought some Borneo... I'll

    let you know after I get it in. I'm told by the guy at Oriscent that it's the shit from an aphrodisiac

    standpoint... we'll see. Also, bought some of this musk he has. He told me its the real deal... again,

    aphrodisiac... we'll see... obviously he's in it for the cash... but I'll share my experience when I get this

    stuff.
    TrickCycles

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    I've been buying musk from

    another guy and using it with Oud. Makes a nice combo.
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    Thanks jpidre,

    I gave

    in and ordered a sample of the Borneo 3000 myself. I'll be very interested to compare notes with you!

    -CAt

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    oh my, i have forgotten all

    about these!! i was actually getting ready to buy this back in the day for somereason i forgot all about it. i think

    im going to buy some from oriscent (i think i still have the link saved up.

    can someone tell me (or pm me) a

    link of where i migh get some burmess ones i really like to try it seeing as how i am burmess and lived there up

    untill i was around 10.

    also can someone tell me or pm me what ham firl is?

    lol hope this dosn't turn into

    another addiction for me.

    dose anyone ever dilude it with like water or something? to save money and make it

    last longer or will it compramise the quality of the product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickracer View Post
    also

    can someone tell me or pm me what ham firl is?

    lol hope this dosn't turn into another addiction for me.



    dose anyone ever dilude it with like water or something? to save money and make it last longer or will it

    compramise the quality of the product?
    Ham furl is a contact I buy most of my Oud from. He sells a wide

    variety of good quality products in smaller quantities. He also has an Ebay store: QT's Store. Do a search on Ebay

    for Aloeswood and you'll find him.

    Yes, you can dilute oud with oils but not water. A common base to mix with

    oud is cedar or sandalwood. That's called an Attar. I don't like the diluted much and you need so little oud that

    it really isn't expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slickracer View Post
    oh

    my, i have forgotten all about these!! i was actually getting ready to buy this back in the day for somereason i

    forgot all about it. i think im going to buy some from oriscent (i think i still have the link saved up.

    can

    someone tell me (or pm me) a link of where i migh get some burmess ones i really like to try it seeing as how i am

    burmess and lived there up untill i was around 10.

    also can someone tell me or pm me what ham firl is?

    lol

    hope this dosn't turn into another addiction for me.

    dose anyone ever dilude it with like water or something?

    to save money and make it last longer or will it compramise the quality of the product?
    Slickracer--



    Take it from me: don't buy these unless you are ready for another expensive addiction. This stuff is amazing...

    and already breaking my bank account.

    I totally agree with Bel-- no need to dilute it. You can use the bottle's

    dipstick to apply a tiny amount that goes a long way.

    Let us know when you try them and what you think!



    -CAt

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    Quote Originally Posted by belgareth View Post
    I've

    been buying musk from another guy and using it with Oud. Makes a nice combo.
    Can you give us a

    link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtriathlete View Post
    scenting notes would be appreciated.

    Best,

    CAt
    I've

    been experimenting with ouds the last couple of days. I think Ham Firl's Royal Oud is very similar to Oriscent's

    Assam. These are the only ones I've tried to this point, and are the darker ones.

    It definitely starts in

    ye olde barnyard, with all the glorious remains left on the ground. I even hesitated before putting it on my skin

    thinking "do I want to smell like that?". It basically stinks.

    Took the plunge and was very glad. It did

    take a while (an hour) for it to settle, and I'd advise against rubbing it on and dashing out to the Ritz, unless

    you'd prefer the servant's entrance, to which the doorman would certainly usher you as he pinched his nose and

    thought wistfully of lavender.

    This stuff is powerful, as in The King. It continually changes as others have

    noted. What starts out in the bottle as the devil's curse sweetens and mellows into something which seems so

    darned FAMILIAR, but then again not at all familiar because its so exotic smelling. Sandalwood on steroids? It

    almost defies description.

    It sweetens to be sure, but does not lose its strong earthy base. Its not at all

    floral or spicy or woodsy, but very warm and inviting. My nose is trying to come up with words to describe it. It

    definitely gets better the more it ages on my skin.

    Definitely not for everyone, but I like it, and can't

    wait to experiment with the other varieties. I do get a calming effect too BTW.

    Late in the day I put a drop

    of A1 on my inner elbow with a little oud. Several hours later it has a sweet pleasant musky rutting smell, and I

    envision the right woman chewing on my arm while she's disrobing. Sorry, just thinking positive thoughts

    here.

    Let you know when I try the others,
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Can you

    give us a link?
    It's the same guy we've talked about before, Ham Furl. He lists it on his EBay store. The

    chinese musk is far better than the other, IMO.
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    Hey Gents,

    I received

    sample bottle of Borneo 3000 today. Sweet, but not too. Very complex, musky-earthy, with honey overtones. And not so

    turpentine right out of the bottle as any others.

    I swabbed a bit on my wrists and rubbed. Then 2 drops of A1

    rubbed between my forearms. 10" SOE across my upper chest. Finally, 1 drop of A7 split on my fingers and then rubbed

    on the edge of my armpits. Headed over to visit the wonderful woman I'm dating, who loves complex odors (and has

    started asking me not to shower before we get together!!).

    I had her smell my wrists and her eyes rolled into

    the back of her head. That's a definite vote of approval for the Borneo 3000. (She kept smelling my armpits too,

    saying she loves my body odor. I feel like I'm cheating a bit and will eventually need to tell her about the mones

    if we get more serious.)

    I don't kiss and tell, but let me simply share that it was otherwordly "love in the

    afternoon"--very animal.

    Thanks Guys!

    -CAt

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    Had a similar experience this

    past weekend. Covered mones with oud and the unique scent opened the door. She loved it.

    I used the Vietnamese

    oud from Ham Firl. Much lighter and sweeter than his Royal, and Oriscent's Assam. Perhaps too sweet for my

    taste.

    Complexity in these oils is interesting. They seem to have a contrast, like a flower laying in freshly

    turned soil. The flower attracts, and the soil welcomes you to the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    Had a

    similar experience this past weekend. Covered mones with oud and the unique scent opened the door. She loved it.



    I used the Vietnamese oud from Ham Firl. Much lighter and sweeter than his Royal, and Oriscent's Assam. Perhaps

    too sweet for my taste.

    Complexity in these oils is interesting. They seem to have a contrast, like a flower

    laying in freshly turned soil. The flower attracts, and the soil welcomes you to the neighborhood.


    Sounds great iD!!

    I like your new avatar image... that's the way to wake up to coffee!

    If you find any

    of the Ouds too sweet for your taste, I'd be happy to trade for my Assam Organic sample. It's much too earthy for

    me.

    Best,

    CAt

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    ohhh man, the more i

    read.....

    hmm so it seems lighter ones are more floral and darker ones are earthy.

    ever though about wearing

    both at once? to balance them out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickracer View Post
    ohhh man, the more i read.....

    hmm so it seems lighter ones are more floral and darker

    ones are earthy.

    ever though about wearing both at once? to balance them out?
    Don't get me wrong:

    they ALL have an earthy foundation. That is the nature of Oud. We are talking about subtle but very significant

    differences in the other scent notes. And in fact, some of the Ouds have been blended already to balance them out.



    I would recommend that anyone who is getting started to buy the sampler from Oriscent. It is a relatively

    inexpensive way to sample a range of high quality Ouds.

    Best,

    -CAt

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtriathlete View Post
    Don't get me wrong: they ALL have an earthy foundation. That is the nature of Oud. We

    are talking about subtle but very significant differences in the other scent notes. And in fact, some of the Ouds

    have been blended already to balance them out.

    I would recommend that anyone who is getting started to buy the

    sampler from Oriscent. It is a relatively inexpensive way to sample a range of high quality Ouds.

    Best,



    -CAt
    CAt, does Oriscent blend their ouds? I know Ham Firl does not, and sells the pure oil from

    whatever country. It'd be interesting to know about Oriscent's practices.

    BTW, did you get an email from

    Oriscent about the Kyara?

    "The rarest type of agarwood,

    Kyara is the most expensive aromatic substance on earth. A single gram of authentic green kyara

    retails for $395. A solid piece weighing a kilogram or more would be in the millions. Ounce for ounce, kyara is

    eighteen times more expensive than gold. Out of all things precious that are bought and sold, only the

    largest, most precious diamonds command a price as high as genuine kyara agarwood"

    In contrast, the least

    expensive way to try oud is to go on eBay and do a search for Aloeswood. You'll find Ham Firl there and he sells

    single samples for as little as $12US post included. Of course at that price you don't get much, but enough to try

    it many times, and its a good introduction. Try the lighter ones first if you're concerned about the strong earth

    scent. But really, the stronger dark oils do mellow nicely and become pleasantly sweet in time. The initial scent

    bears no resemblence whatsoever to the "wearing" scent.

    Another thing to try is mixing or layering

    different oils. This is going to be my next favorite experiment, after mones of course. I've ordered some pure

    sandalwood and chinese musk (thanks belgareth) and can't wait to try them out both alone and layered with

    oud.

    And I plan to take out a second mortgage on my kids when Pheros becomes available. Just kidding, I don't

    have any children... too bad.

    Have fun!
    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtriathlete View Post
    Sounds great iD!!

    I like your new avatar image... that's the way to wake up to

    coffee!

    If you find any of the Ouds too sweet for your taste, I'd be happy to trade for my Assam Organic

    sample. It's much too earthy for me.

    Best,

    CAt
    Thanks CAt, thought I'd rather look at two of my

    favorite things while I'm here.

    I may be interested in a trade, but need to experiment more. I'll let you

    know.

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    Hey Greg,

    I spoke to

    the owner of Oriscent (nice guy) to find out more about which of his Ouds would suit me best. I told him how much I

    liked the honey scent in Sweet China, and he said that the sweetness comes from a small amount of Borneo 3000 he

    blended into it-- otherwise the China would be too barnyard. So, some Oriscent Ouds are single source and some are

    blended.

    I got the email on the Kyara, and it sounds tempting, but I've already taken out a second mortgage for

    Ouds and mones, and I do have kids I need to put through college soon.

    I think you should buy some just to let

    us all know how yummy it really is!

    In any case, do let me know how the latering experiements go. I'm

    interested in the sandalwood myself.

    Best,

    CAt

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtriathlete View Post



    I think you should buy some just to let us all know how yummy it really is!

    In any case, do let me know how

    the latering experiements go. I'm interested in the sandalwood myself.
    Best, CAt
    Ha! You're very

    generous with MY money CAt! Too rich for me, and I've already spent too much on EOs at this point. I've gotten

    hooked there too, sigh...

    The layering has taken on a life of its own and I love it. I need to start taking

    notes, but my experiments are very unscientific at this point.

    Tonight I tried a swab of Oud, a swab of Mysore

    Sandalwood and a swab of Lavender Maillette, all high quality oils. I keep smelling my wrist and arm and am amazed.

    Its a whole new world, and coupled with the mones I don't know who could resist.

    Takes some time though, but

    I figure its worth it.

    Keep us posted on your experiments too. I have A314 but have not tried it, wondering if

    you have. Just bought Chikara scented, should have gotten the unscented, I dislike the smell.

    Take care,
    Greg

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    Hey Greg,

    The layering

    sounds interesting. I am getting ready to order some Sandalwood oil from Ham Firl. Did you get the regular Mysore or

    the Double Super Mysore? How do you like it?

    I have not yet tried A314 but have started becoming curious about

    it. I'll need to figure out where it fits in with my current use of A7, A1, and SOE. I welcome any ideas about

    combining these with A314.

    -CAt

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    I got his 100% CO2 Wild

    Mysore. I like it a lot, and it seems fresher, greener than the other Sandals I have. I've been reading that CO2

    extracts have a different effect on the resulting oil from, say steam distilled. No matter what you get from H-F

    you'll like it.

    I have a function this weekend, and a date. Think I'll try the A314 at least once. Maybe see

    what it does with SoE and leave out the A1.

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by idesign View Post
    I got

    his 100% CO2 Wild Mysore. I like it a lot, and it seems fresher, greener than the other Sandals I have. I've been

    reading that CO2 extracts have a different effect on the resulting oil from, say steam distilled. No matter what you

    get from H-F you'll like it.

    I have a function this weekend, and a date. Think I'll try the A314 at least

    once. Maybe see what it does with SoE and leave out the A1.

    Greg
    Hey Greg,

    I got some of the CO2

    Mysore this week. It really is very "green". My new g/f and I both think it smells like fresh sawdust--not so

    pleasant. It mellows a bit after an hour or two, but I suspect I would like the steam distillation stuff much

    better. This does blend fairly well with Oud, though.

    How are the experiments with A314 coming along?

    -CAt

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    It seems like the Royal Oud or some Cambodian may be just the thing to compliment my NPA or even my

    Alpha7 unscented.


    Cant wait to splash a bit on, Alpha7, that is as havn't used it for awhile, and well, like i am

    in the mood for love


    Just out of curiosity i wonder if the Asian women like the Oud ?
    I AM. Out of my mind .... .... ....

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    My g/f loves when I wear

    Oud. Whenever I wear a dab on my wrist, she continually grabs it to draw it close to her nose and take in big

    whiffs. Little does she know that there is A7 and A1 lurking within the Oud scent.

    -CAt
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