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    Default Hits, nice, but what are they good for?

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    I see alot of guys reporting alot of hits.
    Such as friendlier attitude/vibe in the social

    interactions, twirling with hair etc.

    BUT , the only one's getting laid are the ones IN a relationship to

    begin with. Hits are fine however, they boost your ego dont they? Problem is this now becomes an addiction, a need

    for the validation the hits bring. Thus you will return to buy more pheromones in order to just get positive

    attention, but alas no sex. So what really is the point in buying mones if theyre just going to feed your vain

    crave for validation and leave you feeling empty and unsatisfied as the hits wear off?

    Purchase and use

    mones for the RIGHT reasons, not the wrong reasons. Buy them to enhance your socialskills, not to replace or

    compensate for a lack thereof!

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    yeah mones dont get them into

    bed soley, you have to have some game first before it gets amplified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seduceme
    I see alot of

    guys reporting alot of hits.

    ...

    BUT , the only one's getting laid are the ones IN a relationship to begin

    with.
    This sort of observation comes up from time to time. Most of us are not sharing the intimate

    details of our lives here. I certainly don't come running to the forum every time something great happens.

    If

    I think a recent experience is relevant to someone's discussion, I'll add it. But I draw the line at somewhere

    before full disclosure. Others have indicated they draw the line prior to full disclosure, too.

    For most of the

    guys who come through here, I think it's enough that they are getting to see the first- and second-tier hits often

    enough to understand that pheromones can help but are not a miracle cure for desperation and a lack of confidence.

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    "Thus you will return to

    buy more pheromones in order to just get positive attention, but alas no sex."
    I think you're

    completely missing out on many of the reasons people use artifical pheromones. First, positive attention is a good

    thing for social situations and business, not just romance or scoring nookie. Sure you need to have your ducks in a

    row to be sucessful in life, but enhancement of your assets is welcome in any endeavor.

    Second, scoring a

    piece of ass is relatively easy, but is but a small aspect of life in the ultimate scheme of things. In other words,

    there is much more to life than sex. Sucessful relationships with friends, business associates and family are the

    ultimate prizes in life for most people. Personally I really enjoy meeting and talking to new people. I don't need

    or want to fuck every woman I share a smile or friendly conversation with. 'Mones make our interactions a little

    more engaging.

    Third, as you get older, your pheromone signature fades a bit. So some of us practice

    pheromone replacement therapy and thus maintain an edge buffered with the wisdom of experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    Second,

    scoring a piece of ass is relatively easy, but is but a small aspect of life in the ultimate sceme of

    things.
    Speak for yourse---I mean...damn straight, G!



    You're right, though. -mones are

    used for attraction, respect, social enhancement, business negotiations, improved sexual response, and instigating

    talkativeness.

    The main reason that the sexual hits you hear are from people with SOs and the single people are

    SOL...it's the nature of the pheromone business. Think about why one would come to this site for a sexual reason:



    -You have an SO and want to keep the flame burning
    -You already get a lot of girls but want to see what

    happens
    -You're desperate and are looking for a miracle

    The first choice are the ones you'll most likely hear

    about. Why? Well, they're the most likely to be shared. You'll hear something like this:

    "I've been

    married for 5 years and want to keep the passion."
    "I'm using it with my hubby tonight."
    "He was all over me! We

    had the most passionate sex in years!"

    With the second choice, these guys are already getting laid. They

    wouldn't even know if the sex was due to -mones or their charm. They don't report as much, and it's not as

    common.

    I think you can guess the third choice. If you're hopeless, -mones won't help very much. Many

    people, however, come to this site while working on self-improvement and other things. Eventually, these people

    learn about themselves and become better people. I can think of two instances right now of people saying, "I'm

    sorry I was whining for so long. I straightened myself out, and things are going well now. Thanks!"

    For all of

    you cynics out there, that's part of the reason for the lack of reporting.

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    Seduceme, with that negative

    attitude, i'd be complaining of lack of hits also. Not everyone in real life is out for some ass, even tho its on

    some peoples main agenda. I actually wanted to make more friends and be more comfy with the ladies.. So they could

    see my true self.

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    I agree with lordcrazyd. For

    me, hopefully it'll be a way to lose some inhibtions with myself and them without the need for alcohol.

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    I have found that not only are

    mones alot of fun,but they do in fact help in social situations.Another aspect of it is that of the hits I have

    had,I was poorly positioned to exploit the situation to it's fullest extent(In a hury trying to get work

    done,etc.)As for the hits themselves...for the most part,it's all in what you do with them once you have them.If

    you have no game,interest will fade very quickly and no amount of pheromones will stop the down hill slide.
    You

    make a very good point in that many hits are good for nothing more than social validation and ego enhancement.But

    what, exactly is wrong with walking away from a situation feeling good about it?
    In addition...this website and

    it's forums have been a wonderful learning experience for me and a great opportunity to interact with a large group

    of socialy and intelectualy mature people from different backgrounds.Just look at the number of countries

    represented here.And the incredibly diverse points of view.Learning,IMHO is the icing on the cake of being part of

    the human race.
    Okay...I'll get off the soap box for a while and give someone else a chance....

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    Amigo,

    The main reason for myself and I think for most older folks (not teens) is to enhance one's

    social skills and definately a confidence and ego booster. In todays world having an edge on things sure

    makes life easier and mones actually give you an edge in socal skills. It's not all scoring and picking

    up women but if that is the stage your at, good luck time will teach you. Sex is not the only thing in life ! For us

    older folks 40+ social and business skills are more important than just running around looking for sexual hits.My

    main reason for mones is to enhance my social skills at present.Seems to me that you have'nt had very good results

    with them ,keep tryng!
    Flash1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    I think you're

    completely missing out on many of the reasons people use artifical pheromones. First, positive attention is a good

    thing for social situations and business, not just romance or scoring nookie. Sure you need to have your ducks in a

    row to be sucessful in life, but enhancement of your assets is welcome in any endeavor.
    Yes I am

    but purposefully so, im leading the newbs away from something I went through when I started getting ALOT of sexual

    attention from girls(this was before I ever touched mones). And if this validationbringing joy of happiness is

    coming from a $59,95 bottle its even worse. What if love-scent went bankrupt and the products werent sold anymore?

    Uh-oh here comes the plummet of self-worth and confusion!

    Second, scoring a piece of ass is

    relatively easy, but is but a small aspect of life in the ultimate scheme of things. In other words, there is much

    more to life than sex. Sucessful relationships with friends, business associates and family are the ultimate prizes

    in life for most people. Personally I really enjoy meeting and talking to new people. I don't need or want to fuck

    every woman I share a smile or friendly conversation with. 'Mones make our interactions a little more

    engaging.
    True but lets face it , what draws people into mones(initially speaking)? I mean come

    on, we're posting this on a forum called 'love'-scent. Sure sex isnt love but it sure as hell is a grand way to

    display it. This post was directed towards newbs, not grandmasters who 'get it' as you Gegogi



    Third, as you get older, your pheromone signature fades a bit. So some of us practice pheromone

    replacement therapy and thus maintain an edge buffered with the wisdom of experience.
    Read above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordcrazyd
    Seduceme,

    with that negative attitude, i'd be complaining of lack of hits also. Not everyone in real life is out for some

    ass, even tho its on some peoples main agenda. I actually wanted to make more friends and be more comfy with the

    ladies.. So they could see my true self.

    Please understand im not directing this to you

    personally, dont be offended or defensive. Im trying to guide newbs that come here and have some success with mones.

    I've gone through something similar without mones when I first got alot of sexual attention.

    I understand

    that YOU didnt come here for pure sex, you wanted to make more friends and be more comfy with the ladies. Fine! But!

    this a forum called 'love'-scent and the truth of the matter is that initially what draws MOST newbs is the

    possibility for sexual attraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiT5500
    I agree with

    lordcrazyd. For me, hopefully it'll be a way to lose some inhibtions with myself and them without the need for

    alcohol.

    Allright here I have to disagree.
    Youre trying to lose your inhibitions with

    external materialistic aid rather than changing who YOU are. Sure some might argue that outside circumstance and

    character are the one and same. I'd say only if you let yourself. Sure they are intervened but you CAN distinguish

    them and actually think for yourself. If you'd like I could give you a kickstart with a few mindsets to try out and

    experiment with, PM me if youre serious about changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim929
    I have found that

    not only are mones alot of fun,but they do in fact help in social situations.Another aspect of it is that of the

    hits I have had,I was poorly positioned to exploit the situation to it's fullest extent(In a hury trying to get

    work done,etc.)As for the hits themselves...for the most part,it's all in what you do with them once you have

    them.If you have no game,interest will fade very quickly and no amount of pheromones will stop the down hill

    slide.
    You make a very good point in that many hits are good for nothing more than social validation and ego

    enhancement.But what, exactly is wrong with walking away from a situation feeling good about

    it?
    Because youre basing your sense of self-worth upon something out of a bottle for $59,95. Thus

    when you arent wearing mones or getting hits you'll feel like sh*t(excuse my language). What if you could feel

    like that all the time no matter WHAT circumstances youre in or what you are wearing? Thats what inner-validation

    brings. And yes it is sexy when you project an aura of extreme inner-validation.

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    Seduceme,
    I think you might be

    over pop-analyzing folks here. I'd suspect, that like me, most had a fine life before pheremones and would so if

    they weren't available.
    That said, the pheremones seem to tweak things in a good fashion. I notice easier

    social interactions with my colleagues and more flirting from women in general. I never really had much issues with

    women (mostly have been in relationships, not hit and run as some do), but I could see where pheremones would make

    approaches easier, and certainly where they could give a little more sexual ambience if you needed.

    Gegogi makes

    an excellent point (actually he often makes good points). To me, pheremones are an accessory, like a nice watch or

    whatever. They augment things rather than create them de novo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by satyrboy
    Seduceme,
    I

    think you might be over pop-analyzing folks here. I'd suspect, that like me, most had a fine life before

    pheremones and would so if they weren't available.
    That said, the pheremones seem to tweak things in a good

    fashion. I notice easier social interactions with my colleagues and more flirting from women in general. I never

    really had much issues with women (mostly have been in relationships, not hit and run as some do), but I could see

    where pheremones would make approaches easier, and certainly where they could give a little more sexual ambience if

    you needed.
    Really?! you think so? hmm.. interesting.

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    That's a vague response. Not

    sure what it means.

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    I find it interesting how you

    relate to the general newb from your own personal experiences yet being inconclusive as the motives why they'd

    desire mones in the first place.

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    I guess we both made the same

    error. You assume that others are using mones as liquid self-esteem. I'm assuming they're using as

    supplements.

    We are both probably part right and part wrong.

    Just seems odd that people would become addicted

    to mones and "feel like sh*t" without them, as you suggested.

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    Yes im assuming most guys come

    here in hopes of the miracle cure for their lovelife.
    More specifically guys who are unsuccessful with women to

    begin with.

    Am I wrong in that assumption?

    People get addicted to the validation the hits bring, not

    the mones themselves. In fact they need to be successful with mones in order to get hits in the first place.



    Speaking from personal experience I remember when I cracked the code to female attention and went from never

    being approached in my life to being approached 4-5 tims on avg. every night I went out. Also literally shifting an

    entire dancefloor so I was surrounded by girls on my side, all around me and guys on the opposite side(this was

    before i discovered mones). Unfortunately I cannot control people so one night when I couldnt get into my mood, kick

    it into gear I'd get NO hits whatsoever, and I felt like shit. I had based my sense of selfworth on this

    attentionseeking bullshit. Kinda like those girls that'll stand up on bars or speakers at clubs and shake their ass

    just to get 10 guys drooling by their feet.

    To let other peoples opinion about you define what YOU think of

    yourself youre only setting yourself up for alot of frustration, anger and resentment. Why? You cannot CONTROL other

    people how much you'd like.

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    Huh. I agree with just about

    everything you just said. You shouldn't need outside approval by everyone to need self-validation. OTOH, I wish I

    could've had some of these mones a few years ago when I was dating around. It would've been interesting to see

    what effects they'd have when I wasn't a middle aged monogamous guy!


    Incidentally, are you one of those who

    said that those "fast seduction" methods changed your results? I can't recall from your earlier posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seduceme
    Yes im

    assuming most guys come here in hopes of the miracle cure for their lovelife.
    More specifically guys who are

    unsuccessful with women to begin with.

    Am I wrong in that assumption?
    Yes. I wrote three typical

    profiles in my last post. Most newbie posts using -mones for sexual purposes start in a few different ways:

    "I

    already get lots of attention from girls, but I just want to see what happens."
    "I'd like to get more attention

    from girls. I can follow through, I just need something to get their attention and make me stand out."
    "I just

    broke up with my girlfriend and need something to boost my confidence with women."
    "I'm [age], married, and want

    to keep things interesting with my spouse."


    I think that you're not only assuming that these people have

    trouble with their love lives but they also couldn't capitalize on the increased flirtation and social interaction.

    You also assume that once you stop using -mones, everything will go away. Although this happens, it's not as

    frequent as you would think. Many people get the confidence boost and keep it, -mones or no -mones. Many people

    are able to capitalize on the increased social interaction and flirtation.

    That said, you're completely right

    about using -mones for the right reasons, and that's what the vets here at L-S try to teach. Reporting of hits are

    for experimental purposes and to compare results and effects of using different products and mixes on different

    people. People aren't reporting hits to brag or searching for hits for validation. They're usually looking for

    results. Once the results come, they stick with that product and become successful. Maybe that's another reason

    you'll read about initial hits and not about sex: they've found their perfect product and stopped posting!


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    Default Deodorant, toothpaste, pheromones

    Whether or not we use products like deodorant, toothpaste, or pheromones, the bottom line is marketing. Most of us

    are convinced that without deodorant and toothpaste our social life will suffer. Many of us are convinced that by

    adding pheromones our social life will improve. I see no harm in marketing pheromones with current (non-aphrodisiac)

    claims because the possible improvement in our social life is supported by a substantial body of research--as well

    as animal models. Comparatively speaking the use of deodorant and toothpaste is based only on corporate strategy

    that convinced the vast majority of people in Western Society that we have a genuine need for such things; something

    akin to convincing all of Europe that women must shave their legs and underarms or they simply are not socially

    acceptable. (Why hasn't this happened?) As information about human pheromones becomes more widely distributed and

    validated, if the marketing is sufficient, we might someday be part of a society that would not dream of going out

    of the house without first applying a pheromone product. The likelihood of improved socialization with the opposite

    sex seems much higher given a pheromonal boost to your scent signature. The improved socialization could be expected

    to rival or surpass that acheived by using toothpaste and deodorant. Or am I just

    dreaming?

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    if our society reaches that

    point, then no one is gaining any advantage if everyone is using mones. When that happens, i dont even wanna talk

    about it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodlesnspam
    if our society

    reaches that point, then no one is gaining any advantage if everyone is using mones. When that happens, i dont even

    wanna talk about it..
    I disagree; for society to reach that point, everyone would be gaining some

    sort of advantage. Otherwise, neither deodorant or toothpaste would be so popular. I think what you are indicating

    is that your current advantage would be minimalized. There remains the possibility that with common daily use of

    pheromones, the entire social structure would become more sexualized, resulting in increased availability for all.

    The 70's revisted, perhaps?

    JVK

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    JV writes, "There remains

    the possibility that with common daily use of pheromones, the entire social structure would become more sexualized,

    resulting in increased availability for all. The 70's revisted, perhaps?
    Shouldn't that be the 60s

    revisited? The 70s were pretty loose 'n wild too but going to discos to score women totally sucked. Actually, sex

    is just as easily available now as it was then. And, if anything, Western society is more sexualized than ever. But

    the "good old days" always seem better don't they?
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Unfortunatly,the faulty marketing

    that has been used has soured alot of people on the whole idea of pheromones.I have been getting emails for years

    regarding products that promise women will be throwing thier panties at me the second they get a whiff of me.Alot of

    folks have tried...and saddly failed to get results from pheromones...if there were any in the products in the first

    place...and that has managed to convince most folks that it's all snake oil. I also look at the sheer volume of

    experimentation that I see here and wonder if people realy have the patience to figure out how much of what to wear

    and all the other associated issues like OD and build up....and all the other hastles that go along with regular

    pheromone use...Some folks can get away with grabbing something and it works...others take alittle time and

    trying...I wonder if Amercans with our push button,get it all right now attitudes could handle the stress of actualy

    having to take the time to learn how to use them.

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    Tim comments, "I wonder if

    Amercans with our push button,get it all right now attitudes could handle the stress of actualy having to take the

    time to learn how to use them."
    Not a chance. Hell most Americans find operating a bread machine or

    programming a VRC too demanding.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    They have been refered to as

    "flashers" or "twelves." the people who's VCR is always flashing 12:00 because they cant seem to be able to program

    them.

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    So you're saying deodorant

    wouldn't be so popular if they sold it like this:

    Attract women! Make more friends with men! Meet that special

    someone! It's all possible with this wonderful product! Years of intense research has scientifically proven that

    you stink! How do you gain an edge over the competition? Deodorant! Yes, deodorant! Benefit from years

    of scientific research that has found a way to neutralize the odor of bacteria feeding off of your perspiration.

    This product is the most revolutionary of its time!

    Don't believe those fake companies that try to get you with

    fancy sprays or gels...this is the real deal! Simply roll it on and watch as you smell more pleasant around people!

    Get it now! Deodorant! Find the woman of your dreams by smelling great even after intense activity! Try our

    different scents: "cool", "fresh", or "pure lightning"! Don't delay...order today!


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    Marketing....
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