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    Hello,

    I'm new

    here. Just recieved the last week my first products: Alter Ego and APC. I want to tell you the results.

    I used

    4 drops of AE (2 on neck and 1 on each wirst) and 2 dabs of APC on my neck. About myself. I'm 24 yo, 1m84, 65 kg,

    so very slim. Also I think I'm average looking. I leave in a university campus in France (I'm not french myself

    and it is quite dificult for me to get dates, plus I'm quite shy). I'm here for 3 month allready and didnt got any

    date or something similar.

    Firstly that day I was shopping. Before me while waiting at the caisse there was a

    preaty girl. I was staying behind here, but she did not turned to me. Then I saw here again whent leaving the shop

    at the bus station and we got in the same bus. In the bus I was quite close to her and she looked at me several

    times. But she got out the bus at the next station and I observed, after after the bus doors were closed she turned

    her head back and looked at me. I hope to see that girls again

    In the same night it was a party here, so I

    said, it si exactly where should I try the mones. I went to the party where I didnt know much ppl, only 2 guys that

    I knew. But it was alot of ppl , about 20-30. Normaly in such situations I cannot find the right conversation with

    girls, even with guys, but wearing mones it was completly diferent. I think it make ME more talkative and more

    chaty. I couldnt believe myself what I'm doing. Then I met a german girl, prety nice and we talked alot, and I

    supposed she is quite interested in me. Then came a friend of mine, a black guy and we start talking. Then I went to

    the bathroom and when came back they were dancing and finaly at the end she went with him in his room (he is my

    neighbor)!!! What a pity!

    Now questions. What is happened? Is AE and APC only good for friendhip, or does the

    girl got horny smelling the mones and when the black guy came she prefered him (for the good known reason ), or is

    this just my imaginantion?

    Ok, now the next day. I went to wash my clothes (I dont know how it is english the

    place with washing machines). Normaly I put my clothes in the washing mashine and wait 30 minutes without talking to

    anyone. This day was diferent. There were 2 girls there and I even dont remeber how we started talking.



    Finaly, I see that AE is geting results for me. But I suppose it is more frendship orineted. Is it because it does

    not contain a such high dose of -none? Should I put more APC to increase it? Also I will recive another "arsenal"

    the next days (Chikara, NPA, SoE gels and TE gels). What do you think should I try to get better sexual hits.



    P.S. Sorry for my bad english

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    P.S. Sorry for my bad

    english
    Your English (should be a capitalized word) is much better than many native speakers that

    post in forums. No need to apologize.

    As far as which 'mones are good for what, choice it depends on your

    game, personal chemistry and the preferences and age of the woman. It's 90% you and 10% pheromone. Women respond to

    you. 'Mones help amplify or enhance your words and deeds. If you act like her brother she'll become your sister.

    If you communicate amorous desires, she'll repond in-kind if interested.

    Experiment with various 'mones

    and work on your personality, communication skills and appearance. Eventually you'll find the combination, dosage

    and moves that help you accomplish your goals, be it social or romantic. There is no such thing as "one size fits

    all."
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    I know, and I understand well

    that there is no magic formula, but can you give some suggestions what to use with what from the products I listed

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    6-12 dabs of NPA, half a gel pack

    of SOE and a cover scent of Burberry Weekend gets women very friendly and wet for me. It might make them run from

    you, so be conservative. Of course, I always dress nice, am clean, workout and have well polished social skills.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    6-12 dabs of NPA????? I read it

    is the most oncentraded -none product. Won't you OD with 6-12 dabs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taddymd
    Hello,



    I'm new here. Just recieved the last week my first products: Alter Ego and APC. I want to tell you the

    results.

    I used 4 drops of AE (2 on neck and 1 on each wirst) and 2 dabs of APC on my neck. About myself.

    I'm 24 yo, 1m84, 65 kg, so very slim. Also I think I'm average looking. I leave in a university campus in France

    (I'm not french myself and it is quite dificult for me to get dates, plus I'm quite shy). I'm here for 3 month

    allready and didnt got any date or something similar.
    Why are you shy? Why do you _care_ what

    other people think of you? That is EXACTLY the belief that is holding you back from being successful with women.

    Screw what they'll think about you! Away with approachanxiety, away with socialnervousness.. Just let go and flow

    with the interaction and vibe!
    Dont worry, you'll be fine, you'll be ok, and you'll get there in your own

    pace!

    Firstly that day I was shopping. Before me while waiting at the caisse there was a preaty

    girl. I was staying behind here, but she did not turned to me. Then I saw here again whent leaving the shop at the

    bus station and we got in the same bus. In the bus I was quite close to her and she looked at me several times. But

    she got out the bus at the next station and I observed, after after the bus doors were closed she turned her head

    back and looked at me. I hope to see that girls again
    I dont mean to bust your balls but if

    it would have been the mones she would have reacted to you in the line. The fact that you were around her several

    times(even tho it may be by accident) and sitting CLOSE to her on the bus youre pretty much bound to be noticed with

    or without the mones. That she looked at you means she is interested, but it does _not_ have to be sexual interest.

    It can be intrigue, or 'why is this guy following me'. Or in best case scenario 'what a good looking guy I want

    to devour him right now!' . Anyhoo this is called proximity-indicator-of-interest. When people hover

    around other people theyre displaying interest, its noticed with or without mones by most people, especially

    girls(its a popular move they like to pull themselves).

    In the same night it was a party here,

    so I said, it si exactly where should I try the mones. I went to the party where I didnt know much ppl, only 2 guys

    that I knew. But it was alot of ppl , about 20-30. Normaly in such situations I cannot find the right conversation

    with girls, even with guys, but wearing mones it was completly diferent. I think it make ME more talkative and more

    chaty. I couldnt believe myself what I'm doing. Then I met a german girl, prety nice and we talked alot, and I

    supposed she is quite interested in me. Then came a friend of mine, a black guy and we start talking. Then I went to

    the bathroom and when came back they were dancing and finaly at the end she went with him in his room (he is my

    neighbor)!!! What a pity!
    Exactly! And I bet you it wasnt even the effects of the mones, it was all

    in your head! You _believed_ they would work and thus you thought they were working and became more sociable!

    Again not to bust your balls but if the mones really worked and she was genuinly interested in you why

    didnt you two hookup? See its more to it than mones! Work on your beliefs and socialskills, THEN use mones as an

    enhancement to those. (oh and learn to dance if you dont already).

    Now questions. What is

    happened? Is AE and APC only good for friendhip, or does the girl got horny smelling the mones and when the black

    guy came she prefered him (for the good known reason ), or is this just my imaginantion?
    The

    mones will not have a magical effect on people and get them entranced by your presence alone. You need some basic

    groundwork with your character! Theorists will also claim that you need to hit the right combination of mones for

    you, im not gonna comment this as I dont know myself.

    Ok, now the next day. I went to wash my

    clothes (I dont know how it is english the place with washing machines). Normaly I put my clothes in the washing

    mashine and wait 30 minutes without talking to anyone. This day was diferent. There were 2 girls there and I even

    dont remeber how we started talking.

    Finaly, I see that AE is geting results for me. But I suppose it is

    more frendship orineted. Is it because it does not contain a such high dose of -none? Should I put more APC to

    increase it? Also I will recive another "arsenal" the next days (Chikara, NPA, SoE gels and TE gels). What do you

    think should I try to get better sexual hits.
    You should work on yourself for a change and become

    more seductive in your ways if you'd like sexual hits. If youre frigid, cold, distant, shy , antisocial and weird

    mones will NOT generate sexualhits, this should go without saying. (not saying youre all of those though , just

    examples no offense!)

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    seduceme, I agree with all you

    say but wearing mones realy made me more sociable. I suppose actualy that knowing that I'm wearing mones made me

    more confident.

    Anyway, I will keep posting about my result

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    "6-12 dabs of NPA????? I

    read it is the most oncentraded -none product. Won't you OD with 6-12 dabs?"
    I don't. In fact it

    really gives me a powerful edge in my interactions with both men and women. However, you are not me, so my advice is

    to start small, note reactions, and increase or decrease NPA for the desired effect.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    I will continue posting my first

    experiences if you dont mind.

    So what happened yesterday. I was wearing AE as usual. I aplied it in the

    morining (9AM), but in the afternoon I recieved the sample gel packs that I orderd 3 weeks a go . So I gave it a

    try. I applied TE, SOE about 1/4 and 1/2 pack of each respectively, I put more SOE then TE (It's realy very hard to

    dose the gel packets). It was in afternoon (2PM). Nothing special during the day, but had not much contact with

    womens. In the evenyng I thought the scent faded alot so I decided to try some Chikara. I put maybe 1/h packet of

    Chikara gel and I went to the university cafeteria to have a cofee (9PM). Here I saw 3 guys and 1 girl. The girl was

    the gf of one of that guys. They were playing babyfoot and the girl was with her back to me. The interesting fact is

    that I was very far from them. I think I passed twiced near them what I was to the bathroom. But even then it was

    at least 3m (It should be about 10 feet) from them. So, that girl, even she was with her bf (It was for sure,

    because they were kissed a few times), I observed she very often turned the head to my direction and smilled. And I

    was realy far from her, in the completly oposite corner of the cafeteria.And there were very few ppl here, I was

    with a friend, a couple and they. I could presume that she realy liked me but I could not believe this, because I

    find myself below average. I'm tall and slim and still have some acnea on my face, even if I'm 24. After they

    finished playing the girl looked at me more often. .... And then they left

    So, What do you think about all

    that. It never happened to me before.

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    I think you need to get a woman

    in your personal space for about 5 minutes and see what happens with a little charm reinforced with 'mones. Glances

    from across the room don't mean much. Maybe she thought she recognized you.

    Sounds like you need to join a

    campus club or study group and rub elbows with real people. The honor society has plenty 'o women in it. Maybe take

    a tennis or ballroom dancing course. There's always the Campus Crusade for Christ! Once you get to know them, born

    again Christian girls are extremely horny. I scored many times at church singles. Of course, once you start gettin'

    a little, the pressure to get married and out of sin can be pretty intense.

    Incidentally, a student of mine

    told me he was laying major pipe after he joined the Young Republican club. Apparently all that political and

    religious repression makes a body horny.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    I'm a PhD. student, so I dont

    have classes, just work in my office, but the next week I will start some english lessons. Maybe I will find

    something there

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    I just recieved my order.

    Chikara and NPA + gel packs of SOE and TE. I saw NPA has some kind of incorporated dorepper. Gegogi, you said you

    use 6-12 dabs of NPA. Did you removed the dorper? If I chose to use the doropper, what should be the conversion

    dabs/drops for the NPA bottle?

    Also, Gegogi, you said you said you use NPA, SOE gel and cover scent. What do

    you think about NPA SOE and 2 sprays of Chikara? or should I do only NPA+Chikara? I have also AE and APC

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    Dr Taddy,

    Please be aware

    that most people can't wear 12 dabs of NPA, or anything near as much. Most people stick to a maximum of 3 dabs.



    No disrespect Gegogi, it just needs to be pointed out.
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    I undersrand well that, I will

    start with 2 dabs. But my concern is the bottle dorper that is on. Should I removed it, or should I better use

    drops?

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    You'd be well served to leave

    the dropper cap in and use the "half dabs" that are created that way. This means that you can spread your pheromones

    out a lot more.
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    I leave the inner dropper cap on,

    so the dabs are a bit less "juicy" than without. By varing the finger pressure you can control the amount of product

    on your finger. If you remove the inner dropper cap, the NPA will leak all over your pocket, and then you'll really

    OD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by taddymd
    seduceme, I

    agree with all you say but wearing mones realy made me more sociable. I suppose actualy that knowing that I'm

    wearing mones made me more confident.

    Anyway, I will keep posting about my result

    That

    could also be the placebo effect in your head, I experienced the same thing when I first got pheromore-m , which

    turned out to be complete utter bullshit(no pheromones content whatsoever). I still got more sociable the first time

    I ignorantly wore it, it was all in my belief-system.

    But mones or placebo doesnt matter, what matters is

    the EFFECT its having on you. Positive, positive results, good for you!

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    "I'm a PhD. student, so I

    dont have classes, just work in my office, but the next week I will start some english lessons. Maybe I will find

    something there"
    Yeah, sounds like you need to get out more. When I was in grad school I worked as a

    graduate assistant, teaching a couple classes and doing gopher work for lazy profs. If anything, I certainly met

    lots of people and had an active social life. Even if you're focused on a dissertation, you can still enroll in

    recreation courses like music, dance, tennis, etc. It will be good for your body and brain. Just take them pass/fail

    if you're afraid of messing up your GPA.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Gegogi, I asked you in a

    previous post something about NPA and Chikara ...

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    Btw, how old are you, if I can

    ask ?

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    "Also, Gegogi, you said

    you said you use NPA, SOE gel and cover scent. What do you think about NPA SOE and 2 sprays of Chikara? or should I

    do only NPA+Chikara? I have also AE and APC
    Success of any pheromone mix depends on your behavior,

    goals and natural pheromone output. I probably won't use NPA, SOE and Chikara all at once (my fav combo is NPA,

    SOE, A-1 + a cover scent). The lastest Chikara has plenty of 'mones and thus may not be the best cover for a 'none

    based product such as NPA. You should experiment with each individual component first, and then try combinations,

    carefully noting the amounts and reactions. Eventually you'll find a mix that works for you. For younger men,

    Chikara by itself usually works well. Chikara plus SOE is often an excellent combo, especially if you desire to

    loosen tongues.

    I'm a 50 year old college professor with a mellow and relaxed personality. I'm well kept,

    so most of my students and colleagues think I'm around 40. Being middle aged and mellow allows me to wear large

    amounts of 'none (NPA or TE) without OD problems.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    Chikara plus SOE is

    often an excellent combo, especially if you desire to loosen tongues..
    Do you experience a clash of

    cover scents with these two? I'm considering possible purchases of the unscented varieties of some of the products

    as I know I personally find some scents (colognes, etc.) uncomfortable and overwhelming (I generally don't wear any

    colognes.) I am following some of the "cover scent" threads as I'm curious to see what opinions are... although

    I'd like to see *women's* reactions to the scents, not just the guy's reactions. And are you using the combo

    yourself? (see note below)


    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    I'm a 50 year old college professor with a mellow and relaxed

    personality. I'm well kept, so most of my students and colleagues think I'm around 40. Being middle aged and

    mellow allows me to wear large amounts of 'none (NPA or TE) without OD problems.
    We sound similar. I'm

    late 50's and I think "mellow" (and got one of them college educations, but not in college. "Self Employed" you

    might say... meaning I'm stuck at home a lot hovering over a computer). Have been mistaken for being in 40's. So I

    think I'll keep an eye on some of your mixes a little more closely. So many posts I've seen here are from teens

    and twenty-somethings and I have a hunch differences in age-related body chemistry may make a bit of a difference in

    how 'mones are going to work.

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    I prefer unscented SOE for

    mixing. However scented SOE is mildly woody in scent and actually blends well with many colognes.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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