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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar
    NaughtyGirl,



    To shortcut put one drop of the EW in 9 drops of diluent and mix to bring it to 10% concentration.

    Then

    take one drop of that and add 19 drops of diluent/fragrance to get 20 drops at a .5% concentration. That's the

    equivalent of 200:1 (or more accurately 199:1)

    This .5% concentration of the commercially available version of

    EW would be the equivalent of a .005% concentration of the noxious, legendary "beta" version of EW.

    The

    resulting product would have the same concentration of Copulins as PPA/w, and one-fifth the concentration of PCC.



    Oscar
    Ok my 10% solutions are made - One with unscented oil, the other one with perfumer's

    alcohol.
    I would like to take PCC as a baseline, as Oscar suggested. But ....

    He wrote:
    " The resulting

    product would have the same concentration of Copulins as PPA/w, and one-fifth the concentration of PCC."

    If my

    20 drops are @ .5% concentration then that would not be one fifth of PCC would it? Isn't PCC .25% concentration and

    isn't that half of .5% (equals .50%) concentration? Or was that a typo and my concentration is not 0.5% but rather

    o.05%? <img>

    Sorry but I flunked Math in Highschool!

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    Question Is this correct?

    Could

    someone correct me if I'm wrong?

    I think the 0.5 was a typo, and should have been 0.005

    10% base mix then

    1/20 diluent = 0.005
    10% base mix then 1/10 diluent = 0.010
    10% base mix then 1/4 diluent = 0.025 which would be

    same as PCC - Boy they did a great job at covering up smell!
    10% base mix then 1/2 would be double the strength of

    PCC ?

    If this is correct I should have made my 10% base mix with scented oil and scented alcohol because the

    smell of even the 10% is still pretty strong.
    I'm so grateful the beta-version is gone! <img>

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    Quote Originally Posted by bindy
    I used PCC and

    Phermol Factor/w last night with very good success. Hadn't really played around with the Phermol Factor, will have

    to give that more of a try. It doesn't have a great fragrance, so I don't use it too much. Once you put it on the

    smell pretty much disappears though.

    I will try diluting the EW into my BBW Cucumber Melon body cream tonight,

    and see how it goes.

    Bindy
    Hey Bindy and all,

    For the continuing saga of my EW experiments: Go

    to the thread called "Natural copulins". I wrote some of my early mixing attempts there. Although Oscar suggested

    diluting it beyond PCC, I first wanted to try a somewhat stronger concentration.

    Bindy - Give the Green Tea /

    Cucumber Lotion from BBW a try as well - It's not as (sickeningly) sweet smelling. I like it better. So how did

    your dilution attempts work out?

    Pheromol Factor/w - I just bought that today. It does not have a great

    fragrance? <img> Oh well... I guess I can always cover it up with something else.

    Night all!
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    Report on mixing experiment

    # 1:

    To refresh your memories:
    I had made two 10% batches per Oscar's recommendations higher in this thread -

    one was oil-based, the other alcohol-based. Now my goal was to bring it to PCC concentration with a nice smell.



    Last night I mixed:

    Mix # 1:
    - 5 drops of 10% oil-based EW with
    - 10 drops of tangerine EO and
    - 5 drops

    of Vanilla.
    The Vanilla wasn't straight EO but EO mixed with an oil, I bought it like that.

    Mix # 2:
    - 5

    drops of 10% alcohol-based EW with
    - 15 drops of orange/mango B&BW body splash.

    Let it sit overnight, then this

    morning:
    One drop of Mix #1 on left wrist, One drop of Mix # 2 on other wrist.

    Sniff tests at 10 - 20 - 30 and

    120 minutes.

    Mix # 1 (oil) started out smelling pleasantly right away (10 mins) and remained pleasant. First it

    smelled a little more like tangerine, later the vanilla came through. No EW bleed-through. Now after 2.5 hours I can

    barely smell it. It never needed any covering up. But I'll double-check it some day with my assistant!

    Mix # 2

    (alcohol) Now that one is intruiging. At 10 mins there was EW bleed-through smell. Progressively after 20 and 30

    mintes the Mandarin/Orange came through more. It made for a spicy, woody kind of an odor, strangely enough. Now

    after 2.5 hours I can still smell it and it certainly does not smell unpleasant. Maybe this is a more masculine

    mix?

    How's everyone else coming along with their EW mixing?

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    Personally, vanilla is one of my

    all-time favorites to cover EW....I'm not sure exactly why, but I never get any bleed-thru....and I always prefer

    oils. It's almost like the alcohol based products make the EW have a sharper smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolly
    Personally,

    vanilla is one of my all-time favorites to cover EW....I'm not sure exactly why, but I never get any

    bleed-thru....and I always prefer oils. It's almost like the alcohol based products make the EW have a sharper

    smell.
    I agree. I am now going to try to improve upon the 10% oil-based formula. Maybe increase the

    vanilla and decrease the tangerine/orange. Problem with vanilla is that pure vanilla EO is expensive. I also need to

    try the greenteas from B&BW. That one would be very diluted because I cannot count drop of lotion. I'd like to try

    a 5% mix as well. That would be double the strength of PCC. What concentrations have you been working with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtieGirl
    I agree. I am

    now going to try to improve upon the 10% oil-based formula. Maybe increase the vanilla and decrease the

    tangerine/orange. Problem with vanilla is that pure vanilla EO is expensive. I also need to try the greenteas from

    B&BW. That one would be very diluted because I cannot count drop of lotion. I'd like to try a 5% mix as well. That

    would be double the strength of PCC. What concentrations have you been working with?

    I buy a

    vanilla perfume oil (not a pure EO), and I use a 10ml roll on bottle. I use 5-6ml perfume oil and fill it the rest

    of the way with EW. Very concentrated, but works like a dream! But, then again, weaker cops concentrations never

    give me results (most women get hits with PCC, but I don't).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolly
    I buy a

    vanilla perfume oil (not a pure EO), and I use a 10ml roll on bottle. I use 5-6ml perfume oil and fill it the rest

    of the way with EW. Very concentrated, but works like a dream! But, then again, weaker cops concentrations never

    give me results (most women get hits with PCC, but I don't).
    Yes, I've had to use stronger concentrations

    of -nol as a whole as well. Thanks. As soon as I have a "satisfactory" concentration (balancing strength vs smell)

    I'll use my empty roll-on. I'll keep you posted.
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    Re my earlier post:

    Mix

    # 1 (oil) started out smelling pleasantly right away (10 mins) and remained pleasant. First it smelled a little more

    like tangerine, later the vanilla came through. No EW bleed-through. Now after 2.5 hours I can barely smell it. It

    never needed any covering up. But I'll double-check it some day with my assistant!

    Several days later, after

    giving EW a chance to "bloom" this is still a very wearable mix.

    Today I put 1 drop of full-strength

    EW in 2 oz of B&BW Green tea lotion (the little bottles of lotion they sell). I like it better than the

    cucumber/melon because it smells fresher and not as "sweet". It will clash less with my other fragrances. One drop

    in 2 oz lotion - no bleed through of copulins. My hand hovered, dropper in hand, and I was soo tempted to add a

    second drop! But I didn't. Test this one out first and then I can still add a second drop. I cannot take out.

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