Reply With QuoteHi there Naughtie!!! Are
you really from New Hampshire? We live in Portsmouth. We're Bill and Sue and we both wear/experiment with
pheromones.
Newbie introducing herself
Well
today is a very exciting day for me! My access to this forum was activated and a couple of products I ordered
arrived!
So - time for me to introduce myself. I only discovered pheromones a little more than a month ago. I
have since then spent ENDLESS hours on the net (and on this site) reading up on them.
I know from personal
experience that the real pheromones really influence people but that's a story for another time.
I started off
by ordering Dr Cutler's product - Athena 10:13. The results have been mixed. Most days I don't notice a thing but
a couple 2 or 3 days I was really rocking and got quite a few hits. More details later too if you gals are
interested. Problem is - I'm doing this to put the fire back in my marriage. We've only been married one year but
my hubby is 15 yrs older than me (59) and needs some encouragement. He does not like me to come on to him sexually
soooo.... we'll just have to do it another way -right!
Last week I finally broke down and ordered a BUNCH of
stuff. That is when I discovered this website.
I ordered Pherlure and Pherone W-1. From this site "scent of Eros"
book and... do I dare admit this.... EW... even though it said <img> for newbies! Now after reading some more I want
to buy NPA/w to mix with it. Hope I get my abbreviations right - been working hard on memorizing them!
Oh
well... looking forward to meeting you all - or should I be posting on the general forum? Things are kinda quiet
here!
NaughtieGirl
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Hi there Naughtie!!! Are
you really from New Hampshire? We live in Portsmouth. We're Bill and Sue and we both wear/experiment with
pheromones.
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
Hi neighbors!
Unbelievable! I
had one of my biggest pheromone successes just last Sunday at the Newington mall! (Nope I won't say the cliché
here!)
I wish I could say the same (about both experimenting) but I need to keep this very discreet. I do not
want to hurt my hubby's feelings/ego. He's on heart medication and I think he just needs a little testosterone
boost / copulin encouragement. <img>
So good night to snuggle tonight with all that snow coming down!
Naughtie
yikes, yes
more snow. Sue just
called me and she's going to be driving "slow" - she works in Mass.. Sue doesn't really wear any of the women's
products but she does wear "Pheros" which is for males but could just as well be uni-sex (it's sold here and
manufactured by Dr Smell This (a man with a good heart and a keen sense of right/wrong). She loves the scent and
the feeling of well-being it produces in her office (4 other woman and 1 male who is not often there, travels a
lot). I will often wear pheromones, mainly AE/m and Chikara, during sexual situations (yes, it works great in that
venue). There aren't that many women posting here but there have been some in the past that were using "mones" to
accomplish the same goal you have. There were some "success" stories too so don't give up - it does take a bit of
tinkering to get it right. Ok then, let's hear your "hit" story - nearly everyone on the boards here likes to hear
'em!!!
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
My first hits with pheromones
OK here goes - Like I mentionned in my other post - Up untill now I have only used Athena 10:13. They say that for
some people it takes 4 to 6 weeks to be effective. The results have been disappointing with hubby but some strange
things have happened as well.
- All of a sudden this gay guy at the fitness club (whom btw I'v known for 2
years now) started calling me cutie and cutie pie and names of the like.
- Last Saturday this bi-sexual girl was
staring at me the whole time in class.
- Last Sunday we go to the Newington mall - Now I can turn a head or 2 on
my own. I'm 5'6 - 125 lbs - work out alot - blonde and a 34D. But this time! Wow! Felt as if almost every single
guy was either staring at me or trying to make eye contact. A little embarassing at times but - hey - it always
feels good! Also need to add that on the way over hubby was extremely chatty - much more so than usual.
Those
are unfortunately the only hits I've had over a 5 week period. Not good enough!
Naughtie
PS Being new it
still feels kinda akward to write all this stuff down.But I really do want to learn the nuts and bolts of this
stuff!
none
well, you are getting the
"outside" hits, now you need the "inside" ones!!!
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
Adding to the mix
Yep time to
add some copulins!
Welcome to the forum, naughty!
I'm sure we will enjoy you.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
There's nothing wrong with you telling him that you bought some sensual fragrancesOriginally Posted by NaughtyGirl
to set the mood for romance/passion/intimacy...I wouldn't worry about you both experimenting, though, as you seem
to be doing just fine in being supportive and desiring of your spouse.
Hi Pancho, nice to meet you.
No what I meant is that it is too bad I have to be so secretive about this stuff. I'm sure he would be very
upset at me if he knew. It is a very touchy subject and I have to walk on egg shells around the subject of sex. I
wish American men could just be a little more relaxed about the whole thing...
Naughtie
I understand. That's why I said that you should tell him you bought something to spice things
up for you both instead of saying something that could be construed as you saying you bought this because he seems
to lack desire.
I don't think this is something that either applies to all American men or is limited to just
American men.
The truth is that everyone wants to feel important. Everyone wants to feel special. Everyone
wants to feel like they're great at things that are important. Granted, sex is forced on people through the media
every day in the United States, and it can put a lot of pressure on people because everyone seems to care about sex
and how well you can perform.
Equipped with this knowledge, one should be able to approach the topic of sex or
even pheromones with tact. Granted, it's as much how he takes it as it is what you say, but the least you could do
is devise a way that strokes his ego while introducing the subject. The problem lies in the communication, as if
you accidentally sent the message, "Hey, I'm not satisfied with you now," or he took it in that way, of course
he's going to be offended. However, if you could get the message across and he could take the message that you are
totally into him and want to take it up a notch, usually the other person is into it. After all, how many people
are going to resist the person they love more than anyone else in the world telling them that they want them even
more?
Maybe things aren't as bad as you think, but even if they are, you won't know what's possible until you
take a shot at it, will you? That's why I suggested a way to approach it tactfully in my last post.
Speaking
of generalizing the American male, how many American men would turn down more sex? How many American men would be
against having their SOs telling them they want them because they are crazy about them?
I shouldn't have written that
Yes, you are right. Actually, 10 minutes after writing it, I went back in and I was going to delete
that sentence. But I didn't know how to use the edit function. I felt bad for generalizing like that and I
certainly don't want to get voted off the island.
How's this: In my opinion various religions have done alot
of harm as far as how comfortable people feel about their sexuality. lol - here I go generalizing again! But in
Europe it seems as if people are much more casual about nudity, and that of course helps tremendously in the
bedroom.
I did share with my husband that I am playing around with essential oils and showed him the one that
said sensual mix. I just need to be very low-key in my sexual advances and suggestions. He just does not like
openly sexual women. He likes the innocent cheerleader type and if I make a joke with a sexual innuendo he
disapproves (and I mean just him and me present).
Naughtie
Naughty Girl:
I grew up in
Ireland. You are right, people in the US are so much more uptight about sex and nudity. I do not believe it has that
much to do with religion or not the major forms practiced here and abroad. Back home, and I am from a rural area, if
you were not an active member of some church you were seen as some sort of weirdo or something. I think it may have
more to do with how religion has been used by politics. Or should I say manipulated by politics?
W. Elf
Hi Wood Elf,
I'm
relieved someone understands what I mean. This writing is so hard. These conversations would be difficult to carry
on if we were face to face and here we are trying to write them down.
OK so - we agree that even though
American guys are just as hot in bed, somehow Europeans in general feel more relaxed about the whole subject. I was
crediting it to a broader exposure to nudity.
"Religion used by politics" - Would you care to elaborate on
this? (but by no means feel like you have to!) Religion and politics are 2 major no-no's for a friendly gathering,
<img> so ...
Anyway, the word "puritans" keeps popping into my head, but then again, this country of ours is
such a melting-pot that I don't know why I keep thinking about that. Maybe because my ex was this reborn southern
baptist person - argh don't get me going on that!
Nice chatting with you btw!
Naughtie
I might listen to Belgareth too
much, he has some strong ideas about religion and politics. It is probably a better topic for another forum but
puritans comes to mind for me too. We live in Texas and many here are as you described. It is hard to understand
their thinking sometimes.
Here they make such a big deal about the seperation of church and state then the
president uses his religion to push for changes in laws such as stem cell research and abortion. Yet he does so many
other things that are against his religion, like starting the war in Iraq. I was taught in church that condeming
others for their belief was wrong and killing, except in self defense is a sin. The president only uses his religion
when it suits his needs, other times it is ignored.
I have not had sexual relations with many American men so I
do not know if they are as hot in bed as Europeans. My man is pleasing but he is also so unusual in so many other
ways that I cannot use that to measure. My guess is that if they are more comfortable with nudity and sexuality they
will be better lovers.
As a college student writing is something I do often so it is not difficult for me. There
is a difference beween this and writing about protective coatings for nano-devices to be used in biological subjects
though. That subject does not seem to have the same flavor as this one. I am enjoying chatting with you as well.
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The widespread use of the
lawsuit put an end to any chance of a liberal mindset on sex and nudity. Whether it's a parent complaining about
their kids seeing nudity or sexually explicit material, an employee suing for sexual harrassment, or the unfortunate
false accusations of sexual misconduct, everyone has their guard up. Besides, two-thirds of the US population is
overweight or obese, so do you really want to see a bunch of fat naked people? Before the whole Janet Jackson
thing, the US media used sex to sell everything (still does to an extent), but maybe it's so effective because
people are so sexually frustrated.
It's a shame about your SO, though. I believe that you shouldn't be
hiding that stuff and he should accept you how you are, but life isn't perfect, I guess. Hopefully, -mones will
mix it up a little.
Have you ever spoken to him about it? If it's a problem for you, you shouldn't just sit
back and accept it. I would at least ask why/if it bothers him and find out how to make things better.
I've only lived in Asian"I grew up in Ireland. You
are right, people in the US are so much more uptight about sex and nudity."
(born there), the West Coast and Hawaii (my current home). I haven't noticed Americans being uptight about sex but,
rather somewhat perverted. Like death, sex is a natural part of life but the establishment--goverment, religion and
business--has perverted it into something unnatural. And I think Pancho is right about sex and potential litigation.
Americans are litigation crazy and will use any lame excuse to make a buck. So schools and businesses protect
themselves by insisting its employes be dickless politically correct androids.
I've not been lucky with most
of my sexual partners (including my ex-wife) and had to hide my true desires. I've only met one women on the same
wavelength as me and we enjoyed a couple months of biss. Unfortunately, she was married so it was a doomed
relationship. So I know the frustration well, but least I tasted paradise for a few moments. However a good
relationship is more than the sum of its parts and sex is but one component of what makes a sucessful union. I
actually think one can enjoy a decent marriage without sex, although that would be far from ideal. I'd rather go
without sex than fight over religion everyday (my last marriage).
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
You and Pancho are likely right
about the source of the current sexual restraints in this country. I had thought it went back much longer, did it
not? It seems to me that America retained the puritanical values longer than the Europeans. My opinion is based
mostly on what I have read as I have little real knowledge of how values developed over the years here. If my
understanding is wrong please tell me, I still have much to learn about the American people.
I have had few
lovers and consider myself lucky in my relationship. There are not many things to say about it. We both believe in
allowing the other to be whatever they are and sharing whatever we can. Belgareth has a lot of love and laughter to
share.
sorry seeing a bunch of fat naked
middle aged types just does not gel - keep covered unless at a nudist colony.
The islamic world is most hung
up on sex (for obvious religious reasons)
Catholics and hindus aint far behind
America depends on where you
live
Australians have become much more conservative - we used to have naked Tv shows on free to air prime time
once upon a time but not anymore.
Not so much countries it seems more regional based - a lot of pacific
nations on the other hand - doesnt really get hung up in terms of that sort of thing
none
I read a while back that a
study done in France concluded that French women thought that American men made for the best lovers, their only
complaint being that they were "too hung-up on sports". I'm sure we will all hear in the future that this or that
regions men (check the women's mags for this topic) are considered THE "top lovers". Of course the truth is that
in just about every society there will be found great lovers, good lovers, mediocre lovers, really bad lovers, and
people who just don't like to have sex. There's also people who are simply petrified of sex and they usually have
good reason to be and it's too bad but not something anyone but a mental health professional can deal with.
NG: I really consider you quite brave to have openly stated the reason you are delving into the pheromones.
I imagine you as being quite attractive and I feel that you also know you are quite attractive and you are
wondering "what the hell is wrong here", "I love this guy dearly and I want more of him!!!!". While I agree in
principle with Pancho about being more open with your husband regarding the mones I can also understand your
reticence, it's completely natural. I just cannot picture Pancho (if I remember correctly - a fairly recent
college graduate, a great poster to this site, and really smart to boot) going out on his first date with a woman
and saying immediately, "I just want you to know that I am wearing pheromones that might give me an unfair advantage
in getting you to like me". He might though!!! What I can imagine though is you feeling like, "My God, I can't
let him know what I'm doing, what would he think!!". He could very well think, "my goodness, she's a witch
brewing up potions", or he might think, "gee, that's cool stuff, how does it work, how do you know so much about
it". Personally, I would not tell him at this juncture but then again, not a secret that needs to go to the grave
with you either, is it? You could make it a sorta fun thing, a new hobby of yours of sorts, and eventually explain
pheromones to him and how they are so important to the human race. My advice would be to go slowly, keep it fun,
and don't make an issue out of why you are using them. At some point in the future, it's quite possible that you
will both be wearing them, hitting one of your favorite restaurants or clubs, and having a great conversation about
who in your vicinity seems to be "turned" on to one or the other of you, or both of you!!! Sue and I do it all the
time and it can be a lot fun, much like learning body language and then going out and having fun with that knowledge
while observing others. At any rate, I'm sure all of us who post here are rooting for you!!!!
Wood Elf:
It's not so hard to understand American political/religious iinteraction. You only have to realize that American
politicians will say anything to get elected. They may mumbo jumbo some religious stuff but in the end they are
just looking to get on the gravy/power train and are not looking for some sort of affirmation of their religious
beliefs (well, might be one or two but I sure haven't seen one!). Who knows what's going on inside of our dear
President's head, he could be very religious, he might not be at all. Speaking of heads, this is revealing and
funny:
http://warnet.ws/index.php?subaction... <br /> humor
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
I have a very different"It seems to me that
America retained the puritanical values longer than the Europeans."
perspective on that. The foundation of American values--the constitution--is a product of the Enlightenment, not
puritanical values, and was very forward thinking for its time. Plus America is a melting pot of cultures, races,
values and religions. I think the puritanical influences are given far too much weight in elementary school history
classes and are insignificant. I'd credit Africa, Asia and Latin America with far more impact on cultural and
sexual behavior. The culture and morals of the da boyz in da hood have inundated America society far more than some
nostalgic image of faith filled pilgrims.
Also, values and influences vary greatly from region to region in
the USA. In Hawaii Euro-American culture is viewed as oppressive even by many state goverment officials. Heck,
Discover's Day is not reconized as a holiday. Instead it is seen as a day symbolizing the oppression and
destruction of native peoples and their culture. After all, there were lots of people and nations in the New World
before the Europeans arrived.
Hu Naughtie, welcome aboard !
Flash1
Belgareth says the same thing. He has a quote from somebody framed and hung on the office wall near hhis desk.
"Power does not corrupt. Power attracts the corrupt and the corruptable. Hence, any person seeking high political
office should automatically be suspect until proven otherwise." In this country that seems to make good sense.
An example of why sex is a
difficult topic in the US:
http://quote.blo
omberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_carlson&sid=aI.J CzMTH4.w
koolking: Thank you for the compliment and for pointing out a possibleWhile I agree in
principle with Pancho about being more open with your husband regarding the mones I can also understand your
reticence, it's completely natural. I just cannot picture Pancho (if I remember correctly - a fairly recent college
graduate, a great poster to this site, and really smart to boot) going out on his first date with a woman and saying
immediately, "I just want you to know that I am wearing pheromones that might give me an unfair advantage in getting
you to like me". He might though!!!
hypocrisy. I have never been in a relationship that I have not felt like I was able to speak freely. Therefore, if I
was married, I would tell my wife about -mones in a heartbeat. Knowing that others are more tactful than I am, I
always suggest in my posts of sharing with an SO that you're having fun with fragrances that you hope please him or
her. I never tell anyone, "You know, you should just say, 'I'm wearing -mones, dammit!' and see what happens."
After all, no one has a problem wearing perfume, lighting candles, dimming the lights, making a dinner full of
sensual food, etc. to get people 'ready to go', so why be so shy about this particular tactic? To me, it's as
simple as, "I'm wearing a new fragrance that's supposed to [attract you]. Do you like it?"
That said, I'm
more concerned about her having to be timid and submissive regarding sex. I believe that I was referring to that
aspect more when speaking of opening up or asking him about it. However, it's just my opinion that people should
be able to communicate about such things, and everybody has his or her own way of life.
PS: I'm not sure
about how the first date is a parallel situation to being married, but I would tell someone I was wearing a
customized fragrance (I probably would mix -mones and cologne) and asked if they liked it. Although I wouldn't say
what you wrote, the phrase, "I'm wearing -mones, bitch!" seems like it could roll off the tongue quite nicely.
(just kidding, obviously)
Hi Naughty Girl,
Sorry that
your hubby's so uptight about sex. That must be really hard for a young women who would really like to have more,
but can't do the approaching. I'm a female, married almost 20 years, and have been using pheromones since last
summer. I have to say they can really spice things up in the bedroom, that's for sure. I LOVE using them!!! My
husband is very open to new things and we have an awesome sex life, despite having 4 kids! LOL I started using
pheromones, not because he wasn't more than willing, but because I started having major horniness. Not sure if
it's totally hormones or if it's because I take an herbal supplement called Maca to relieve menstrual cramps. My
doctor said it can cause heightened sexual desire in men and women, which I'm sure contributes to my "moods"!
Anyway, one of the men on the forums, not sure who, said they take a supplement called Tribex to increase their
sense of desire. I've never known anyone else to take it, but he swore by it. Here's the info I found on the
web. I wanted to check it out, since you said hubby has a heart condition:
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pr
o-hormones/tribex-500-supplement.htm
Good luck to you!
Bindy
BTW, I most of the pheromones I use help,
but the ones with copulins, of course work best on my hubby. I've used EW, boy does that stuff stink! and I've
used PCC, which isn't bad at all.
NaughtyGirl
First I'd likeI'm
doing this to put the fire back in my marriage. We've only been married one year but my hubby is 15 yrs older than
me (59) and needs some encouragement. He does not like me to come on to him sexually soooo
to say welcome, as I am new myself to this scene.
& I'm sorry you're having problems in your marriage. I live
my gf or whatever to come on to me sexually as I would suspect most men would. I'm debating on which scent to
order. Chikara or The Edge & I'm leaning more towards Chikara. I just got out of an almost 3yr relationship so my
game is a bit off.
I hope everything works out for you.
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Nice to meet you all!
Thank
you all for the welcome wishes! I've been somewhat quiet lately because I'm away from home, fixing up a rental
unit and not on my computer a lot these days.
Koolking - Yes, you're right - it does feel kinda strange. Lucky
for me, I have had to ward off many, many sexual advances, so I have been able to preserve my self-esteem and put it
in the proper perspective (age - medications and stress, if you ask me) My husband is also very impatient and easily
angered, so I'm hoping the 'nols will put him in a better disposition.
Pancho, Yep I told him I'm
experimenting with new smells and mixtures and aromatherapy etc and he's quite open to that (guess smelly, perfumy
stuff jives with his image of the ideal woman/girl - heehee!)
Bindy, thank you, I will certainly look into
that. We both work out and take quite an arsenal of vitamins anyway, so I should have no problem adding something. I
have to add (between you and me) that when we do have sex - it is the BEST- Out of this world - ... Fill in whatever
means "The Best"! Maybe that's why I want more of it!!!
Sigfreed - Welcome to you too. I'm sorry I'm not
familiar (yet) with the men's products, so I cannot offer any advice. I do intend to look into buying some scented
pheromones for my husband, and give them in the same way I would give after shave. I'll let you know what I
picked.
As a final note: I grew up in Europe and had boyfriends of many different nationalities. Sexual
satisfaction had nothing to do with the nationality. My bestest lover ever is American (my husband), I won't talk
about the worst because I Try to be a kind person.
Talk soon all!
Glad to hear that when you do have
sex it's great, nothing like good sex. Glad to hear that you are set in that dept. I think you're right, having
great sex keeps you wanting more, but I've found that working out and using mones makes a difference. I think
about sex almost all the time. My husband is on board with that!
You said your husband is impatient and easily
angered. Is it possible he has
adult ADHD? I was diagnosed with it, and was a very impatient and had a
tendency
toward a really firey temper, but since on medication for it, I'm very mellow.
If you think that's a possibility,
but If he's not willing to see a doctor about it,
maybe you could try one of the herbal preparations you can get
on line for ADHD. The herbals I tried didn't wire me, but made me more alert, more focused. So far the Rx med.
just makes me mellow, sometimes tired.
I work out too. Makes you feel so much better, doesn't it?
Bindy
I'll have to keep this comment as a testimonial for the fact that I do know what I'm talking about...
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