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    Question Living At Home

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    I was surprised

    that women aren't looked down on as much when they live at home with their parent(s) as men are. Especially when a

    woman has a child or children. It seems acceptable. Why wouldn't it be just as acceptable for men? Is it a macho

    thing?

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    Good question. I think men who

    live at home are generally looked down upon, and that living at home past a certain age would tend to hurt the

    self-esteem in this culture. In places like India it's more acceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by culturalblonde
    I was

    surprised that women aren't looked down on as much when they live at home with their parent(s) as men are.

    Especially when a woman has a child or children. It seems acceptable. Why wouldn't it be just as acceptable for

    men?
    It has to do with society's traditional expectations of men and the degree to which men have

    taken those expectations to heart. So, part societal pressure, part machismo.

    Living at home suggests

    that the man can't fully provide for--or take care of--himself (and, therefore, anyone else), whether or not

    that's actually true.

    Anyway, I was thinking that men are looked down upon for the above only marginally

    moreso than are women...
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    Yea, how the hell can you provide for

    a woman if you can't provide for yourself (that's the signal its sending)? Men are supposed to be leaders.

    Everybody including women look down on the helpless man who needs to be taken care of. Women aren't expected to be

    successful financially.
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    The other thing is that living at

    home (past a certain age) is generally interpreted by society as laziness, genetic and otherwise. As a lack of

    willingness to get out there and brave the shitstorm, as it were.

    And men who aren't willing to brave the

    shitstorm, whether for their partner or themselves, ain't very attractive. (See Joseph Campbell. Or George

    Costanza.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    The other thing is that

    living at home (past a certain age) is generally interpreted by society as laziness, genetic and otherwise. As a

    lack of willingness to get out there and brave the shitstorm, as it were.

    And men who aren't willing to

    brave the shitstorm, whether for their partner or themselves, ain't very attractive. (See Joseph Campbell. Or

    George Costanza.)
    So move out already, dude!
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    Midtown Tunnel is gettin' kinda cramped.
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    My friend went on a date

    last night and I asked how it went. She went on and on about what a terrific guy he was. Everything she said led

    me to believe that she had found the right guy. When I asked if she was going out with him again, she said, "h_ll

    no, he lives with his mother." I was shocked because this was the only thing stopping her from seeing him again.

    He is 35 and she is 33. Of course, I'm thinking maybe his mother is ill and he is taking care of her, or he is

    trying to get back on his feet. But I don't think that either is the case. She said he has never been out on his

    own.

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    P.S.

    I did tell

    her today that in India it was acceptable.
    She gave me a look like this --->
    I guess I will drop

    the subject now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturalblonde
    My friend

    went on a date last night and I asked how it went. She went on and on about what a terrific guy he was. Everything

    she said led me to believe that she had found the right guy. When I asked if she was going out with him again, she

    said, "h_ll no, he lives with his mother." I was shocked because this was the only thing stopping her from seeing

    him again. He is 35 and she is 33. Of course, I'm thinking maybe his mother is ill and he is taking care of her, or

    he is trying to get back on his feet. But I don't think that either is the case. She said he has never been out on

    his own.
    I stay with my mom, too. I have been mentally battling with the female's view/opinion on men who

    live with their moms, and it bothered me for the longest. Now, I appreciate a woman that doesn't want to be with

    me/see me because I live with my mom. I've found, I'm better off, 'cause with the mentality of one who thinks

    that way and is bothered by it, belongs alone.

    I'm definitely a MOMMY'S boy, and it's not the

    MOMMY'S boy that she makes my decision, or I ask for her advice, but the MOMMY's boy that has her as A VERY

    SPECIAL part of me ... my mom and my friend. I could care less what women/someone thinks ... now.

    I even tell people/women I live with my mom ... now.

    P.S. It's also accepted in Europe,

    and the mother washes their clothes, irons them, cooks, and cleans their 20-50 year old son's rooms. What's

    America!
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    P.S.S. Just because I

    posted my thoughts, don't stop on the blasting of a 47 year man that lives with, loves, and thinks the world of his

    mom.

    Believe you me, I can take it, and I WILL NOT get offended. I love hearing how/what people think in all

    kinds of situations!

    Blast away, if you get the urge. If it gets too bad, I'll have to invite you into the

    KING's MiniPool Room, and spank ya good!

    Annnd, as for women getting look down upon for staying with

    their parent(s) ... you have to always consider the source. The mentality of some people are really amazing

    if you step back and look at the big picture ... some can't see the big picture, so you have people saying what

    they say. Who really has the right to look down on anyone?
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    In the past living not only

    with a parent, but one's entire extended family was more accepted. It is still accepted more in inner cities and

    Hispanic (and other Ethnic) neighborhoods, where financial considerations tend to help such traditions endure.



    A productive life in which one makes a unique contribution, feels fulfilled, and utilizes one's gifts for

    others
    does not necessitate living on one's own; or necessarily even benefit from it!

    We tend to take

    American individualism as the will of God. It is merely a trait of one specific culture, at a specific point in

    history.

    Truth be told, if everyone lived in small intimate communities -- extended families plus others, for

    example -- and shared resources; there would be far more peace and prosperity on the planet.

    Mobley has some

    courage to come on here and say all that.

    Whether a lot of women would recognize this is another issue.
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    Great posts, Doc and Mobley!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Whether a lot

    of women would recognize this is another issue.
    You can say that again, Doc! Thank God,

    I know for a fact, there are good looking, intelligent women, that do recognize this.

    Regardless of how

    anyone views me, I'm doing just fine ... in a l l areas!
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    Regardless of

    how anyone views me

    Anyone who doesn't think the world of you, doesn't know you
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    Anyone who doesn't

    think the world of you, doesn't know you
    You've got me blushing, BJF!
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    I for one would not let

    that hold me back from seeing a man. Other cultures' views are interesting to me. My fiance is from the

    Netherlands Antilles, so I asked him to get his viewpoint. He said, "Dey nuh wife wit mudda." He really

    knows how to make me laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturalblonde
    My fiance is

    from the Netherlands Antilles
    Zoukland!
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    Quote Originally Posted by culturalblonde
    I for

    one would not let that hold me back from seeing a man. Other cultures' views are interesting to me. My fiance is

    from the Netherlands Antilles, so I asked him to get his viewpoint. He said, "Dey nuh wife wit mudda." He

    really knows how to make me laugh.
    lol. .....
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    I haven't lived at home since I

    was 15, and I have to say: it made significant changes in my personality. I still love my parents, and try to see

    them/speak to them a lot, but I love my independance.


    I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with

    living with your folks, as my brother only recently moved out at the age of 26; I simply feel that it helped my

    development so much that I wouldn't have had it any other way.

    It's great to have place that is your own to

    take a girl back to, as well. There's something of the naughty teenager about bringing a girl back to a parental

    abode (which can be quite nice for a weekend, but would freak me out in the long run. No screaming, or room

    changing etc etc)

    Either or, really. I just like it this way.

    Peace and Love

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    I was going to send

    this to Mobley in a PM, but decided to air my dirty laundry for all to see.

    I wish I had Mobley's attitude

    about this. I'm 45 and living at home right now. My younger brother is too. My sister is the only one who achieved

    escape velocity from this town, partially because she went against the parents advice when she accepted a job in

    Phoenix.

    For me, there are are a couple of factors why I live at home. Several years ago, my dad had a triple

    bypass. A few years later, my mom had brain surgery to remove a tumor. So I stayed around to help them. Add to that

    the "discipline" that I received as a child which made me afraid to take risks and the fact that I accrued enormous

    credit card debt trying to buy happiness during my parents' bad health periods. So now, I'm stuck where I am,

    trying to get out of debt.

    Needless to say, living at home is detrimental to a healthy love life. Mainly from

    the self-esteem issues that society brings on, mainly through the media. Guys like me are the brunt of a lot of

    jokes in sitcoms. I'm reminded of a conversation from the show, "Men Behaving Badly," starring Rob Schnider and

    another guy whose name I forget:

    (paraphrased)
    Other Guy: I ran into Frank Smith today, remember

    him from high school?

    Schnider: Oh yeah, how's he doing?

    Other Guy: Seems he made it big in computer

    programming. He developed some kind of operating system and is now filthy rich. He owns a 20 acre estate on which

    he's building a home for his parents.

    Schnider: He lives with his parents?

    Other Guy:

    Yeah.

    Schneider: Loser!

    Other Guy: Yeah.
    I picked my handle at love scent partially in

    irony as I live such a dull life. Stymied by the "loser" vibe I feel from living with the parents and "all work and

    no play" syndrome. But like someone mentioned in the thread, how can a woman expect to be supported when I can't

    even support myself right now. I am also intimidated by the fact that most women my age have been married and

    divorced and have a kid or two. And that intimidation gets worse as I age. The realization that I'm suddenly 45,

    depresses me. I keep thinking that I've reached my peak socially and professionally and it's all downhill from

    here.

    Again, I think a lot of it comes from television. You see beautiful, happy people living in places they

    couldn't afford in reality (see "Friends"). All my life I wanted to be a 60s style swinging bachelor, but I'm more

    like the comic book guy from "The Simpsons."

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    Well simply because women are

    hardwired to be attracted to someone who can protect and provide. On all levels, emotional, materialistic etc.



    Why? Well it makes sense that a woman would choose a man that is going to protect and perpetuate their

    genes, meaning their offspring. Thus its attractive if the man can show that he can handle himself, his life and

    possibly an offpsring and care and provide for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InternationalPlayboy
    I was

    going to send this to Mobley in a PM, but decided to air my dirty laundry for all to see.

    I wish I had

    Mobley's attitude about this. I'm 45 and living at home right now. My younger brother is too. My sister is the

    only one who achieved escape velocity from this town, partially because she went against the parents advice when she

    accepted a job in Phoenix.

    For me, there are are a couple of factors why I live at home. Several years ago,

    my dad had a triple bypass. A few years later, my mom had brain surgery to remove a tumor. So I stayed around to

    help them. Add to that the "discipline" that I received as a child which made me afraid to take risks and the fact

    that I accrued enormous credit card debt trying to buy happiness during my parents' bad health periods. So now,

    I'm stuck where I am, trying to get out of debt.

    Needless to say, living at home is detrimental to a healthy

    love life. Mainly from the self-esteem issues that society brings on, mainly through the media. Guys like me are the

    brunt of a lot of jokes in sitcoms. I'm reminded of a conversation from the show, "Men Behaving Badly," starring

    Rob Schnider and another guy whose name I forget:

    (paraphrased)


    I picked my handle at love scent

    partially in irony as I live such a dull life. Stymied by the "loser" vibe I feel from living with the parents and

    "all work and no play" syndrome. But like someone mentioned in the thread, how can a woman expect to be supported

    when I can't even support myself right now. I am also intimidated by the fact that most women my age have been

    married and divorced and have a kid or two. And that intimidation gets worse as I age. The realization that I'm

    suddenly 45, depresses me. I keep thinking that I've reached my peak socially and professionally and it's all

    downhill from here.

    Again, I think a lot of it comes from television. You see beautiful, happy people living

    in places they couldn't afford in reality (see "Friends"). All my life I wanted to be a 60s style swinging

    bachelor, but I'm more like the comic book guy from "The Simpsons."
    This was the first post I read

    today and, quite frankly, it blew me away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InternationalPlayboy
    I

    was going to send this to Mobley in a PM, but decided to air my dirty laundry for all to see.

    I wish I had

    Mobley's attitude about this. I'm 45 and living at home right now. My younger brother is too. My sister is the

    only one who achieved escape velocity from this town, partially because she went against the parents advice when she

    accepted a job in Phoenix.

    For me, there are are a couple of factors why I live at home. Several years ago, my

    dad had a triple bypass. A few years later, my mom had brain surgery to remove a tumor. So I stayed around to help

    them. Add to that the "discipline" that I received as a child which made me afraid to take risks and the fact that I

    accrued enormous credit card debt trying to buy happiness during my parents' bad health periods. So now, I'm stuck

    where I am, trying to get out of debt.

    Needless to say, living at home is detrimental to a healthy love life.

    Mainly from the self-esteem issues that society brings on, mainly through the media. Guys like me are the brunt of a

    lot of jokes in sitcoms. I'm reminded of a conversation from the show, "Men Behaving Badly," starring Rob Schnider

    and another guy whose name I forget:

    (paraphrased)


    I picked my handle at love scent partially in irony as

    I live such a dull life. Stymied by the "loser" vibe I feel from living with the parents and "all work and no play"

    syndrome. But like someone mentioned in the thread, how can a woman expect to be supported when I can't even

    support myself right now. I am also intimidated by the fact that most women my age have been married and divorced

    and have a kid or two. And that intimidation gets worse as I age. The realization that I'm suddenly 45, depresses

    me. I keep thinking that I've reached my peak socially and professionally and it's all downhill from here.



    Again, I think a lot of it comes from television. You see beautiful, happy people living in places they couldn't

    afford in reality (see "Friends"). All my life I wanted to be a 60s style swinging bachelor, but I'm more like the

    comic book guy from "The Simpsons."
    IPB, TV can cut out the parts it doesn't like, and that's all there

    is to it. If you never do anything else in this life ... stop worrying about what others think ... ESPECIALLY WOMEN,

    if that be your major concern. Regardless of what people say/think, there are women out there that'll take you just

    as YOU ARE. That will come, and when it does, you'll have no doubt about it being love. Tis a lonely path, but

    I've traveled it, I'm still alive, and I have an outstanding and very intelligent woman. It's not about attitude,

    it's about how you feel about you. Everything in life that's not physical, can pretty much be fixed with your

    brain. That brain is a powerful tool ... use it!

    Taking care of other people's kids is no easy task. I for one,

    would help if I could, if I can't, so be it! If someone falls for you and they have 10 kids, believe you me, it

    won't matter because that thing call LOVE pulls off miracles!

    You can only be who you are, and if it's not

    hurting people, accept it. If YOU FEEL, not think, it must be fixed, fix it, but for the love of doodoo ... don't

    let other people/women mold your thinking! It's like people putting their happiness in other people's hands ...

    GURANTEED DISAPPOINTMENT! Believe you me, you will be fine, and there are thousands, if not millions, that are

    dealing with the same mental tag, that they have allowed society/some women to stamp on their foreheads. You moving

    out before you're ready will only put in the same STRESSFUL situation that millions are in ... living to work, vice

    working and living. You can join so many by hooking up with someone you're not in love with, to get out on your

    own, but that just doesn't makes any sense to me ... but, millions do it. So many unhappy faces, but they have

    their own place and someone to help them make it. Yuck!!

    Keep ya head up, you're much better off than you

    think! It's just gonna take you some time to see that ... there will be good days and bad days, but in the end ...

    you'll find ... you did what was BEST for YOU.

    Luv ya! Now, Luv yourself!

    P.S. And if the

    world doesn't like the way you're living ... f#ck'em! It AIN'T none of their business anywayS!!

    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    InternationalPlayboy: My

    heart goes out to you, especially your parents. You are a gem and will be blessed for your unselfishness. Your

    parents must be proud that they raised such a giving son.

    As I said previously, I would never let a man

    living at home stop me from seeing the guy. I was more surprised at the double standards our society has placed on

    men versus women living at home.

    Also, I agree with MobleyC57... we need to learn to love ourselves first.

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    Thanks everyone for

    the words of encouragement.

    Quote Originally Posted by culturalblonde
    Also, I agree with MobleyC57... we need to learn to love

    ourselves first.
    Believe me, I'm a lot better off than I was five or especially ten years ago. I

    attribute it to a combination of self-hypnosis and "mind programming" CDs and daily meditation. That's one reason

    I'm so interested in behavioral modification CDs. Ten years ago, I was reading a lot of self-help books. A question

    on a date about my spirituality led to my discovery of Deepak, which led to Wayne Dyer, which led to my learning

    meditation from Siva Baba, whom Dyer dedicated a book to under the name Sri

    Guruji Pillai. I give most of the credit to Baba's meditations. I no longer read as much self-help as I did,

    probably not even a book a year anymore. I still enjoy the "brainwashing" CDs though. I'm doing a lot better than I

    was, but there are still down days, like most people have.

    I wonder if the self-esteem issues are why I like

    products like Chikara and Realm. They both make me feel better about myself and Chikara makes me feel more like a

    "babe magnet" because I feel more attractive while wearing it and I seem to get a lot of friendly looks from women

    with it.

    I consider myself lucky that I can live with my parents while I pay off my debt. I have a shelter

    over my head and I'm fed. Mom's cooking helps a lot with my ten hour work days (almost twelve if you count lunch

    and the commute). If it wasn't for her, I'd probably be living on der Weinersnitzel and Taco Bell fast food. It's

    not a complete free ride as I do pay some rent and all my other expenses.

    Sometimes there's tension due to

    the close quarters, but I'd rather be living with family than unhappy in a wrong relationship. Something that

    almost happened once. About a month after the woman told me she'd ruin my life if I stayed around, like she did to

    all her other men, she announced she was pregnant. Though we made out several times, something in the back of my

    mind told me that sex would be dangerous. I'm sure glad I listened to my brain in my head instead of the one in my

    groin.

    In today's economy, there are so many families where both the husband and wife work just to live at

    the same standard that people did in the 1960s and '70s. And there are a lot of young married couples with children

    moving back to live with one of the sets of parents. My mom's brothers didn't live at home in the small town in

    Nebraska where they're from. But they bought houses directly next door to the house they grew up in, where their

    parents lived until they died.

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    International Playboy:

    I

    think what you are doing is wonderful. You earned my deepest respect for doing something that takes a great person

    to even contemplate. In my eyes there is a difference between a man like you who lives with his parents for

    altruistic reasons and some of the people who just do not want to deal with responsibility. You sound like a good

    person. It will come back to you some time in some way.

    Wood Elf

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    Here is a thought for you...In

    1990-91 when the build up of troops was beginning in the Persian Gulf for the impending invasion of Iraq,I watched

    video from the tarmac of a U.S. Airforce base of a group of Army Rangers boarding a cargo aircraft bound for the

    Gulf.All the wives and mothers and fathers and children were there to see thier soldiers off...maybe for the last

    time.The fairwells were polite,friendly,stoic and generaly unemotional.
    Same day...on CNN was a video of Italian

    paratroopers boarding a cargo aircraft bound also for the Gulf.These are,in all honesty...men of equal metal and

    millitary prowess of the U.S. troops seen earlier.They are tough,diciplined and rugged individuals trained to jump

    from aircraft into combat without a second thought for thier own safety.These brave men of honor and dicipline had

    no problem weeping and crying openly...embracing thier mothers and fathers crying on thier shoulders.The fairwells

    continued in this manner and some of the troops even broke ranks to run back to thier mothers and give them one last

    hug befor going off to war.The difference was stunning.It became very clear to me that here in the U.S.,people have

    a very different view of family and the connection that family should have.Sons here are expected to be independant

    and solitary.Hunters,protectors,providers.And somehow,the idea of living at home is seen as contrary to that

    goal.However,in my oppinion...that go-it-alone attitude robs us of a very important connection to our family and

    ourselves.Our ego steals our sense of connection to the ones that realy are the most important people in our

    lives.And it shouldnt be a problem for anyone to understand and respect that connection that we have to our

    families...the same connection that they should have.As someone whos parents died when I was still a very young

    man,I can tell you that the lack of connection to family realy isnt a sign of strength...

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    I've heard that Italian

    single women are not happy with the situation in Italy wherein many single men (with good jobs and the means to

    support themselves) continue to live at home with a "momma" who will still do all his cooking, cleaning, etc..



    Now, please don't get me wrong, I know there are many situations where this is necessary. Were it not for

    my brother, I might also have been living with my Mom who's 84 and can always use some help. There was also a

    point in my life where I was so poor that I had to consider it but I got lucky.
    There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!

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