Reply With Quoteit's an ego thing. right now my
game is ego dependant but eventually i want to drop my ego. because ego is helping my game but also holding me back
at the same time. it's gonna take awhile to erase 22 1/2 years of being a chump.
IOI means "Indication Of
Interest".
I don't understand why guys have to have the "8s and higher". Of course, I have never understood
the numbering system, either.
Some girls turn out to be knockouts once they fix themselves up. They can REALLY
downplay their sexiness if they want to. Assigning numbers just knocks you into a much smaller ballpark with way
too many other yelling, screaming fans in my opinion.
Makes no sense to me, but to each his own.
it's an ego thing. right now my
game is ego dependant but eventually i want to drop my ego. because ego is helping my game but also holding me back
at the same time. it's gonna take awhile to erase 22 1/2 years of being a chump.
Originally Posted by TRock
Then forget about chicks!!!!!!!!!
"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
--Benjamin Franklin
I talk to ALL the chicks. The fat
ones, the old ones, and especially the ones that look like they're preoccupied. I make them laugh out loud and when
they do slap me, I totally ignore it unless its somewhat forceful. Then I have to say, "Oww" or
something.
It's really hard to tell if knowing over 70% of the chicks at a party helps mu game - but it
seems to make the other 30% very very very easy to interact with. About several months ago something different
started to happen. Chicks used to quickly turn away when we made eye contact - now they keep eye contact and over
half the time, they smile at me and say hi first.
Each girl I talk to is definately not with the intent of
scoring - its with the intention of setting up a specific environment - where I am seen interacting with a different
girl every 10 minutes and that girl is paying complete attention to me and not running off. Some guys actually
comment on it out loud (yo man, that guy is always talking to different chicks). This makes it so the hot ones
wonder and feel almost compelled to engage me and try to figure out what the big deal is. The girls that know me
yell my complete name out loud when I enter a room.
When this first started, the quality of the girls was
very low. But very slowly I have found that the hot ones come around eventually and and now approach me and start a
conversation (usually about nothing) - the greeting is usually with some sort of hug or even a little peck on the
chick. Ones the hot chicks do this, the other hot chicks do it too.
Everybody has a different game. This one
is mine.
Yours rocks. It is the tortoise and
the heir (hare, hair?) approach. (turtle and the rabbit).
"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
--Benjamin Franklin
what you're
doing gains massive social proof. social proof is as good as any technique out there. it raises your value in her
eyes and girls only like guys with more value than them.
here's another article on body
language by badboy.
http://www.badboylifestyle.com/?badboy=archive&new
s_id=3
Lets talk little bit of body language, and how it is connected to your attitude and confidence. We
all know, that people communicate with each other on multiple levels. Words (what we say), is just 7% of our
communication when we communicate, the majority of communication is done with bodylanguage, vocal tones, vocal
pitch, movement, and gestures. When I say body language, I mean: pitch of voice, tonality, speed, how you walk, the
way you carry yourself through the world, having eye contact, how fast you move (hands… etc), shoulders, chest...
You may ask why body language is so important. First, because it is how we sub- communicate with others.
Last edited by TRock; 02-03-2005 at 12:43 AM.
the easiest way to walk like that
is imagin being yanked by a rope tied around your hips. lead with your hips and your body will be forced to be
alpha. and/or walk with the balls of your feet.
an easy way to have all your body language slow is imagine if
you were high.
That article is over the top.
Some of the advice is generally good, some of it would not work for older guys, some of it would not work for
younger guys.
The picture isn't there any more, but I think someone posted this article text a few months ago
(btw, the Web site specifically forbids reposting their content like this -- you should just put in a few lines and
leave the link to the new URL). If this is the same guy, he didn't look very impressive in that picture at all.
Certainly not like some hotshot lady killer.
But this article describes another by-the-numbers technique that
will work for some and not for others. It's very mechanical.
The slow walk he describes would be hard for
anyone to achieve with anything like a natural step. And the concept of personal space is not B.S. People have
zones of comfort that should only be intruded upon when you understand what their reactions mean.
Some guys will
hit you if they feel like you are crowding them.
some guys will be aggressive that's true, but in a seduction
sense there's no reason to intrude in another guy's space. english isn't the guy's native language but you can
do it the way i describe by being yanked with a rope and balancing with the balls of your foot. it's not for fast
walkers. if walking is 4 mph, you're probably walking 2 or 3. i know people always walk faster than me. it's
basically walking with a cocky swagger or a pimp walk. i've walked almost like this all my life, it took a little
concious adjustment on my part to do it his way.
That won't work for most guys.
Yeah after reading all this
stuff from this site, dyd, and becomeaplayer.com I started wearing really nice collared shirts, nice shoes, I now
walk with a swagger, walk with head up eyes lowered and I now get tons of looks from girls when I walk through my
highschool. Body language is the key to everything! After I changed the way I act and dress it totally changed how
people looked at me. This one girl in my class always sits with her upper body pointed to me and stares at me all
the time. One time during class I just did a face like im bored and she did the same thing, upper body pointed to
me. Im not sure if that constitutes as body mirroring but it seemed like it was. She is hot as hell and I give her
absolutely no attention at all. Not sure how to approach her right now but ill run some IOI tests to see if she is
interested.
For anyone who wants to see if a girl likes you here are some tests:
1) Do something like look at
your watch, make a facial expression, etc and see if she does the same.
2) See where her upper body points
3) If
she is standing somewhere, get closer and see if she pushes away or holds her position.
Thats all I know for
IOI tests, if anyone knows anymore please share.
I think the two of you are African American, or some similar ethnic group. If
you're not, please let me know.
I make a point of that because I have only seen black guys pull off the pimp
walk successfully. Maybe there are other guys who can do it, but I think they would have to grow up doing it.
It's not something a white college boy can pick up (and I've seen far too many try to).
Yes. She was mirroring your expression....Body
language is the key to everything! After I changed the way I act and dress it totally changed how people looked at
me. This one girl in my class always sits with her upper body pointed to me and stares at me all the time. One time
during class I just did a face like im bored and she did the same thing, upper body pointed to me. Im not sure if
that constitutes as body mirroring but it seemed like it was...
Sounds like she is totally into you.
See if you...She is hot as hell and I give her absolutely no attention at all.
Not sure how to approach her right now but ill run some IOI tests to see if she is interested.
can torment her without treating her badly. Don't be disrespectful, but just sort of "let it dangle" in front of
her. That attitude. Notice her briefly, but say nothing.
Good tests. Some other things you can do include sipping a drink if you areFor anyone who wants to see if a girl likes
you here are some tests:
1) Do something like look at your watch, make a facial expression, etc and see if she does
the same.
2) See where her upper body points
3) If she is standing somewhere, get closer and see if she pushes
away or holds her position.
both holding one and she is looking your way; changing position slightly if she is already mirroring your posture;
giving her a quick, questioning look (just glance at her and raise your eyebrows).
The last example may elicit a
comment or question from her. Be ready to say something, or to just smile coyly and then move away.
No I am not black, but never
walk with your upper body in one position only moving your legs or you will look homosexual, guaranteed. It just has
to be like when you are walking you are walking with with your entire body, moving shoulder forward shoulder back.
Yes if you do this wrong you will look like a poser and all the girls will think you are a wannabe macho man.
Well, I was reluctant to make
any ethnic identifications, and it turns out I was wrong with both of you.
Let me just say that, if you
don't grow up practicing a certain natural body rhythm, trying to adapt to it later in life is very, very
difficult.
Body language speaks according to a rhythm we each develop, and that rhythm is culturally influenced,
perhaps even culturally defined. Your "culture" is the neighborhood you grow up in, not the country or tribe or
ethnic group you come from. Of course, there is a lot of similarity from neighborhood to neighborhood within the
same region, and so forth.
So, guys, what I am saying is, I have SEEN that pimp walk attitude, both from guys
who developed it naturally and from guys who thought they could just start doing it. The guys who thought they
could just start doing it didn't do it well at all.
On the other hand, like dancing or martial arts, if you
have someone who knows how to teach you show the ropes, then, yes, you could pick up a different rhythm in your body
language. You could start walking, talking, and acting like a whole different person in a very different style.
But there is more than one way to express that sexy confidence women like. I think it's easier for each guy to
look at his male friends, relatives, and associates who are successful with women and adapt those guys' traits
(unless you're thrown into a multicultural group, and then you have to figure it out on your own).
I hope that
makes better sense.
Also, I would say there are generational differences. Those of us in our 40s grew up with
different pop culture influences. MTV only barely went into broadcast production as I hit my 20s, so I wasn't very
exposed to whatever body language they started beaming to the youth of America at the time.
One of the"I talk to ALL the chicks.
The fat ones, the old ones, and especially the ones that look like they're preoccupied.
oldest and best pieces of advice if you want to meet women. It sharpens your social skills, conversation skills,
reading of female facial and body language and tends to make everyone (at least women) like you. In turn you get
introduced to even more women and get the pick of the litter. But, sheesh, it's exhausting work, time consuming and
you better enjoy talking about nothing...
The pimp swagger is actually only"It just has to be like when you are walking you are walking
with with your entire body, moving shoulder forward shoulder back. Yes if you do this wrong you will look like a
poser and all the girls will think you are a wannabe macho man.
cool with kids. You have to knock it off after college or you look stupid. Back in the day we called it the Harlem
Buck Strut as only the inner city brothers did it. I prefer to move more like a cat. Chicks love it.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
Meaning...?
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
Friendly, is there a difference
between making eye contact with a girl and her looking down versus some girls that one you make eye contact they
won't break it? do the results mean the same thing? this is in the context of i'm walking one way down the street
and she's walking the other way.
to add onto demokill's clothes post. i realized today i need more color in my
wardrobe. it's winter so i've been wearing white, black and other similar clothing. i think my body language is
more confident when i wear colors.
Yes clothes are VERY important. I actually heard this
girl talking about a guy in a bus across from us and the first thing she said was, he sure knows how to dress. With
the girl I mentioned in the earlier post, I have no idea how to approach this girl. She is only in one of my
periods, sits kinda far away but I have a feeling something is there. I noticed before that she dates "cool guys",
guys that are average but with a certain coolness about them. I've been acting cool lately, with body language, and
I think she may be noticing but im not 100% sure. If anyone could give advice to this it would be greatly
appreciated.
It takes a little more time/effort with the first group, a little less
time/effort with the more aggressive ones.
Man, I really want to make some
comments on this thread based on the latest scientific research, but I'll hold my "tongue". Even though it's on
topic.
Carry on.
Detached, deliberate, lithe,
slinky...?
Examples/specifics appreciated.
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
Please elaborate.
"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
--Benjamin Franklin
My ears are open!
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
IT's my thread and your knowledge is welcome but
please try to keep it close to the original topic which is body language.
Move like a cat: swift, graceful,
strong, silent and alert. I tread lightly and am extremely good at sneaking up on people. Back in the day I was an
accomplished hunter and tracker. I got bored of killing animals...
Thanks, Gegogi.
Has that
way of moving come naturally for you or is it something you've had to work on (or, at least, be conscious of)...?
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
I studied ballet, acting and
music for years. I wasn't very good at ballet... And, yes, years ago, I actually worked on posture and walking with
a coach! Being on stage requires you to be extremely body and voice conscious. Plus it helps you project a desired
persona and builds confidence.
Geoggi I now have an idea
about most of your walk but could you take a moment to explain what your arms are doing. I find that when I started
to work on my posture and slowing down my walk that I really didn't have a good feel about what my arms should be
doing and as a matter of fact, I am still not too sure.
I almost always have an
instrument or camera in hand. On the rare occasions my hand are free, I gently swing my arms. If you watch the basic
posture of ballet (even flamenco dancers do it) dancers impart a feeling of expanding the upper body: head raised
high, neck and back straight, shoulders back, etc. It's more of an artistic walk that matches my personality. A lot
of macho wantabes walk with their arms stiff and tense (so muscles stand out more?), almost as if they have their
finger on the trigger of a gun.
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