half life of pheromones

[pizzaro]

Hi, I am new

here.
First I wanted to thak bruce for the great prices and fast service.
Already ordered twice . I placed

the first order 3 weeks ago and now again yesterday because of the specials.
Also bset wishes to jazzy's

birth.

Iam from europe and not that into english ,so please do not use too many difficult english



My issue is that I've read through the forum and some other sites through the days, but am not able to

structure all the information properly - to many other stuff to store in my brain (school ... am graduating)



I am a bit confused about how long the mones last on your skin.
I figured out that it is different from product

to product but:

one site(guy/whatever) says 12hours,
one site(guy/whatever) says up to four hours,
an

other that tll you wash them off,

and onther source that there is build up which causes an overdose after a

time, even if it worked well for the first hours.



I really do not know what to believe and do not

want to overdose or make a different impression on the same people in a few hour cycle.

Maybe you could ceate

a sticky regarding to that issue.

OK Perciption last for 12 hours without buildup, but i am not interested in

this product since I already purchased the newmbie pack and soe gels + soe npa special and Pheromol Factor (sould

arrive soon)
Already experimenting with the beginner special, but I do that at school whichj last till 5 o'clock

and the people know me already.
Had some reactions but that is not that important for me by now - want to

experiment on my own and get to know more. Just need to figure out if some reactions were quite normal or not.
the

thing is that some girls there are into me but I am not interested in them. Just started to take a closer look on

the behaviour of the people towards me the last days.
Very interesting is that two techers which are pretty alpha,

which I am as well started to be very, very nice to me. (note: they hated me - must be the soe ). And the

female teachers are often very iritated.
for example: the math teacher lost herself in calculating several times

and said : somehow I can't go one further on that as well - and gave us some writing work. That happened twice this

week. that hasn't happened before. i am sitting very near to her.
some girls seame to tese me a bit.


especially one of a younger class - seems that this are hits, I think they just opened up more because of the soe.

But one seems to be very agressive towards me - more agressive in a bad way. Whatever she is a nanny goat. Thats

what i call her then. I do not care about her.

Whatever some other stuff happened but I'll have to tabulate

thatall. But it is the first week and I werent out since I had to work a lot for class tests. the last finished

today.

Alright didn't want to write about the experiences by now, because they aren't all enough objective

enough but I am a bit talkative .
When I start I cant stop.

Back to the topic:

I am

thinking about to order some
wagg and maybe alter ego or chiraka will see havent tried this samples till now.

The budged is not a real issue.

regarding to that it would be very

interesting how long all the stuff

lasts on the skin

soe
TE
NPA
alter EGo
P Musk oil
wagg
pheromaxx (one site says 4 hours)


this are the ones which does interest me most at this moment.
You you want to share experiences of other s - no

matter - your welcome

In the hair probably lasts much longer as I figured it out correctly




would be great if I would receive many nice replies - different experiences or at least a post from a

proffesional.

How I regarded before - a sticky could be a nice idea

Just will be awake one more hour,

because it is one a clock after midnight here, thus I will probably just be able to answer/thank tomorrow



Thanks anyways at this moment this forum helped me out a lot to figure out a lot of info

greetings


be well
P

P.S.: If my language has some mistakes, just ignore them or correct me -

[lordcrazyd]

I understood everything just

fine.... Certain products last longer than others, many environmental factors and even personal pheromone signautres

have alot todo with how long pheromones last. In regards to Chikara, i feel that chikara is good on "Skin" anywhere

from 6-8 hours... Some environmental factors that affect pheromones can be the moisture in air, heat, cold, smoke,

just to list a couple. I've been using Chikara for about 4 months now, and its generally my respect pheromone. I

just recently accuried SOE and NPA and haven't had enough experimental time to just exactly how long these

pheromones last and to what effect is there effectivness . One other thing, you can occasionally smell none on skin

if you have the nose for it.

[pizzaro]

yeah I know

you can

occasionally smell none on skin if you have the nose for it

But I can't smell it
The chiriaka half life

does not help at the moment but thanks anyways

[SirAngel]

Here are my 2 cents:
I notice

a strong effect from pheromones for about 5 houres + - 1 hour depending on certain factors as mentioned above. If I

want the pheromones to last longer I spray them on my clothes (cotten preferd) or just put some more on. They seem

to last for days on natural cotten but the effect seems to alter from wearing them on the skin.

[pizzaro]

thanks "angi"

since not

as much replies does come I am doing some research on my own and add them in tjis theresad

a.k.a. wrote:

I imagine Chikara would be best for most office environments. One spray is plenty. Both products

last all day.

Soe was the other product.

disscusion/comments/exsperiences are still

welcomed

[CptKipling]

www.pherolibrary.com

Look at the newbie FAQ.

Most of the

information on the other sites probably came from this forum (seriously).

Most products will be WORKING for a

maximum of 6-8 hours, but:

• some pheromones will be absorbed into your skin and stay there for longer
  
  (buildup)
• smaller than effective amounts of pheromones will be present on your skin after 8 hours
• bacterial
  
  action will cause some of the pheromones to be changed into other compounds

Hope this helps.

[pizzaro]

You surely are right. All links

I opened came from this forum or pherolibary.

Most products will be WORKING for a maximum of

6-8 hours

that's exactly the point: most

It could be quite useful to know for most newmbies

which, and make a list.
that could be also a great topic for "your"
pherolibary

I have

read the pherolibary several times - thanks anyways.

Another question: Where can I find the thread where s.o

(could be you) described how much mg a dap, spray and one drop is.
- searching it at the moment but can't find

it

[CptKipling]

I think thats a reasonable

idea.

If everyone accepts that the recommended doses in the pherolibrary are a reasonable starting point, we

could set up polls on the forum asking how long that dose of that product was affective. However, I think it's

generally agreed that all the products have an optimum working time of about 4 hours, and any variation is likely to

be less dependant on the product and more dependant on other factor, e.g. situation and weather

I think the

thread you're looking for is here:

http://pherolibrary.com/forum/

showthread.php?t=11610&highlight=application+metho ds

[pizzaro]

another quote, to what s.o wrote

about using ae (not quite sure but should be the same with soe

t is important to also understand you have

a three hour window for optimum effects, as both -nol and -rone are converted to -none

Please correct if

this a wrong info

As I told, I will search everything I can find - after that I'll sum all up - but do not

want to make a bad summar, thus please correct failure or not 100% right infos0 informations

[CptKipling]

The -nol and -rone conversions

are not that well understood. From a chemistry point of view, the actual oxidisation of -nol to -none would take a

very long time. However, bacteria can make this reaction happen faster, but also add a degree of unpredictability.

To cut to the chase, if I was to say that the optimum working time for pheros was 3 hours, I wouldn't be confident

that this was due to other pheromones tending to evolve towards -none.

[pizzaro]

Ok, will have to figure it out

on my own (how my bacteria work) - thanks

I think the thread you're looking for is here:

[url="showthread.php?t=11610&highlight=application+ methods"]http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthr...ication+methods[/u

rl]

found the link already and wanted to post but you were faster

but as I can remember quite

correctly there was another thread or maybe a link.
There was a bit more calculation. especially for sipmo and

the edge

If you know what I mean post it otherwise I will surley hit on it once more and post it myself



Another question: do you know how long the tigf special will go on? It's tellin that it'll end in about 24hours

for some weeks now?
I want to place another order. I am interested in wagg and the alter ego plus would not mind

but since wendsday you can get free samples I would prefer to wait till tomorrow. (How many hours will take till

wendsday in your location?)

[Visionary7903]

I know that for me what

has worked in making the products last longer and get hits even up to 10-12 hours after application has been dabbing

a Sandlewood Fragrance Oil product to my skin area, underneath where I would apply the mones. I think this idea was

recommended by Dr.SmellThis originally as a way to minimise bad bacterial conversions. It has definitely worked

quite well for me as before I would be often frustrated with lack of hits after only a few hours of application.

Visionary

[bjf]

Sounds like it is the oil that does

it

[pizzaro]

I know that for me what

has worked in making the products last longer and get hits even up to 10-12 hours after application has been dabbing

a Sandlewood Fragrance Oil product to my skin area, underneath where I would apply the mones.

which

products are baasesd on that, or does every oil based product do tje trick
Isn't the edge version which belonges

to the beginner set such an product!?

[CptKipling]

No, he is talking about

applying a layer of oil first, to create a kind of pheromone proof layer, and then apply the pheros.

Whilst

we're on the topic, you should really be using Sandalwood Essential Oil.

[pizzaro]

ugh, a layer of oil. Ok lets see

in my appartment I have somwhere olive oil, rapeseedoil and safflower oil. And not to forget butter in the fridge.

What should I choose lol

to be serious, what kind of oil do you mean?

thanks

[CptKipling]

Essential Oils, google

for it.

Jojoba oil has also been talked about (a forum search should give some goof results).

[Visionary7903]

Yea I was talking about

applying Sandalwood between the skin and mones. Captain, I use the fragrance oil of Sandalwood as I've read that

"Sandalwood is a very strong and potent essential oil; there is caution to avoid using directly on skin without

mixing with base oil". Plus I can get it cheaply over the counter here (in the Body Shop in Australia) whereas

Sandalwood pure Essential Oil seems hard to find and I cant be bothered mixing with a base oil.

Visionary

[CptKipling]

I apply small amounts strait

without any problems.

I'm just concerned that you might lose some of the properties of real Sandal EO if you

use a fragrance oil, but whatever works

[BIONIC MAN]

atomizer spray in hair can

get airborne quickly from bod heat rising. clothes application can stave off conversion for awhile due to less

bacteria. pendants worn around neck say silver is a very good anti bacterial carrier for mones. putting mones around

pubes ,pits,behind can make mones convert quickly. so you have options start experimenting

[pizzaro]

thanks guys for ya advice and

support. That's exactly what Ia m doing - experementing what else should I do .
Allmost nothing flys just

to your doorstep. I am searching through this forum and already got laid by a lot of articles and links added by

some members. Very interesting forum here. Big respect.
Would like to have more time to check all the the

articles but that's life.
Now I ordered the tgif special combo containig wagg and alter ego, even if i still have

not received my second order (soe+npa special and pheromol factor).
Now i' ll have a lot of stuff to experiment

with. Even if the jazzy special ran out and it was 10bucks more "expensive" I could not stand the offer. But I

think that I have mentioned this before.
Especially the half life issue is a big challenge - will do a personal

research and what is still to pick out from this forum (and there should be alot) and will still keep updating

.

It is also a good training for my english. Reading all the articles and check up all the new

words.
I'll graduate a comprehensive secondary school the next months and english wll be one of my graduating

subjects. Even if I am the best in talking I never can get an A in writing.
My biggest problem is that I usually

write to much and do not have the time to correct my stuff.
In this case if anyones finds any drastical mistaces

in my language I would really appreciate any help .

BIONIC MAN: you really do not need to

poke me - how you see I am already experimenting - the whole life is a big experiment on it's own but I am sure I

do not need to mention it to anyone here.

To come back to the oil thing.
I have found one but it seems to

be a bit too expensive for its amount. !0ml for about 15$. But did not do that much research on that till now. There

are so much more interesting articles I still have to read so I'll check this out a bit later.

be well
P