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    Default Loss of libido.......

    Antidepressents

    took away my libido. I can't ditch the antipressents for a few months.


    I need to combat this problem!!!



    What has anyone of you guys out there use for this kind of thing? Horny goat weed? What about a good testosterone

    increaser.

    Please help me : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal
    Antidepressents

    took away my libido. I can't ditch the antipressents for a few months.


    I need to combat this problem!!!



    What has anyone of you guys out there use for this kind of thing? Horny goat weed? What about a good testosterone

    increaser.

    Please help me : )
    Sounds like you're in a bad sit-chay-tion, Surreal. That

    doesn't sound possible to someone that's not a doctor - me. A few months is not really a looooooooong time to go

    without, I've done 9 months, by choice. You can do it, in case you don't find something that will work with the

    antiD.

    Good luck!
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    First, talk to your shrink

    about the possibility of Wellbutrin (which does much better than SSRI's in that regard), and your libido problem in

    general.

    Second, often people who are successful on needed antidepressants can eventually get off them and move

    to supplements/lifestyle treatments (e.g., 5-HTP/St John's wort, b-vits; etc, with regular exercise/counseling.).

    That is in part because the pharm treatment can lead to actual lasting neurological changes, which often remain

    after they are discontinued if the patient continues to work. This approach worked for me personally.



    There is also the possibility of compromise, with lower dose SSRIs in combo with the other approaches.



    Otherwise, if you continue to do what harmed your libido, there is no good answer. Maybe supplements will help,

    but the pharmaceuticals are usually just too strong in their side effects.

    Obviously, you never want to allow

    your depression to be out of control, but perhaps there is room to wiggle within that.
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    Uprima: A tablet produced

    by TAP Pharmaceuticals contains apomorphine, a drug that is used in case of poisoning. It is placed under the tongue

    and begins working through a chemical reaction within the brain causing blood flow throughout the entire body. The

    drug is safer for heart patients and men who take anti-depressants. Human tests show that 58% of users had an

    erection within 20 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57 View Post
    Uprima: A tablet produced by TAP Pharmaceuticals contains apomorphine, a drug that

    is used in case of poisoning. It is placed under the tongue and begins working through a chemical reaction within

    the brain causing blood flow throughout the entire body. The drug is safer for heart patients and men who take

    anti-depressants. Human tests show that 58% of users had an erection within 20 minutes.
    I

    believe this drug is not yet available in Canada and USA, just Europe.

    HM

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    Thank you much.... Will look

    into both suggestions.

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    Default i'm in the same boat as you

    I've been in antidepressant / antianxiety treatment for a bit more than 2 years now to recover from a traumatic

    experience (was for me at least). I've been improving steadily after a bit more than 8 months of getting the right

    dosage for each medication. It's not a high dosage but it's a bit more than the minimum useful. Even from the

    first month of treatment the difference was astonishing. I was a fool to suffer with depresion/anxiety for so many

    years before getting treatment. I even managed to hurt those I love because I was so self-absorbed with my problems.

    Now i'm whole new person and sometimes I could wonder if i really need the meds, but I know they still have work to

    do to leave me permanently healed (hormone leveling thing, noradrelanine and stuff like that) in my head.

    I

    can't get off the meds right now cause they have been really helpful and doctor says I'm in the final stages of

    healing and it's more important to stay consistent now than before to get the best results and get cured. After

    that I know I will need a weaning period of lowering the dosage to get me off the meds (I remember a couple of days

    I ran out of the meds...not fun!).

    Since about 6 months ago I notice a decline in my ability to mantain an

    erection without physical stimulation. It's frustating to get all worked up in foreplay and when it's time for

    intercourse not being able to perform. The frustation i felt was enormous and only compounded with anxiety the next

    time there was a chance for intercourse. My wife is understanding of my problem now but not trying to help (i guess

    she is half happy im not chasing her around that much now).


    So in my last checkup I told the doctor about it

    and she (yes it's a she) told me that many things could be affecting me as well as the meds, now that i'm not so

    anxious i've been putting more stuff in my platter and so the stress and work levels have increased. Sleeping

    patterns have been altered from this and also the last months of the year were specially busy and she says it's

    more common for my problem to ocurr in this situations. So she said that in february I would go back to her and tell

    her how im doing and IF I still have problems she said she had some things that could help me. I still don't know

    what it is but at least she had stuff to try. Plus at least you can feel less lonely about it knowing that i'm

    going thru that thing too.

    I'll post what happens in my next visit to the phsiquiatrist (sp).

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    I am completly with you on

    this.

    There have been opportunities to sleep with a really nice girl but I was afraid it would not work.

    "The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!"

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    There's also the

    actionlove.com site.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Default Libido - Increase your sex drive naturally

    having a low <link removed> is a great challenge to us

    men because as a man we have to be active all the time to satisfy our partners in terms of sex. Sex is everywhere

    were just the one who will decide if were going to dell with it. but mind you that their were already medicines

    available to cure this. I may suggest you to increase your drive sex in a natural way. use herbal pills, like wyld

    natural it really boost my libido when it goes down.
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    Thumbs up impotence drugs

    I am in the same

    boat with bipolar.

    Why has no one mentioned impotence drugs like cialis etc?

    His question was about

    sex drive too and not just erection, both are important for good sex.

    I will also look up the advice on this

    thread.

    At one point I took testosterone injections and they screwed me up, I got terrible acne over my

    whole back and chest and shoulders and when the injection wore off before the next shot I would get all down and

    depressed again, gain fat again, and lose sex drive. I eventually stopped taking it.

    I am now trying a herb

    called longfellow jack, look it up under SD-50 under google. The higher potency which I have yet to try is

    SD-200.

    I'm hoping a 5 day on 2 day off approach can lead to sex drive as it was in my 20's, although I

    was working out very hard back then and also in the dating game.

    I hear marriage, LTR etc even cuddling

    lowers test levels. Add to that bipolar, being double the age, and being on meds for bipolar like paxil, Zeldox etc

    anai its no wonder I need all the help I can get.

    I think this herb longfellow jack is helping to some

    extent as I have dropped 8 lbs with it while maintaining muscle.

    I think combining it with "the weekender"

    cialis will help matters. They say with SD 200 (look it up on google) instant erections come back. I wonder if the

    20 something angst will come back too . I don't think so as I've matured since then and can control my persona

    better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Surreal View Post
    Antidepressents took away my libido. I can't ditch the antipressents for a few months.




    I need to combat this problem!!!

    What has anyone of you guys out there use for this kind of thing? Horny goat

    weed? What about a good testosterone increaser.

    Please help me : )

    The supplement 5htp is a direct

    precursor to serotonin. It is naturally extracted from a specific type of seed. Griffonia if I recall correctly. It

    has been proven to be as effective as Antis. I personally stay away from pharmaceuticals, as they only temporarily

    solve the problem, and create other problems in the future.

    I workout naturally, and also get to low body fat

    levels in the summer, so I need a Testosterone boost. What helps me is Tribulus, Panax Ginseng, and sometimes horny

    goat weed. Sometimes you can find all these in a single product.

    The secret with Tribulus is you need to find a

    high quality product with high protodiscin(what makes it work), otherwise its useless. Stick with high quality,

    atleast 40% standardized.

    Zinc, Mag, B-6, etc....

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    OK, finally got around to reading

    this thread. There are two different though related issues here; maybe 3.
    1. Maintaining youthful testosterone

    levels and thereby keeping the libido high.
    2. Keeping the plumbing working the way you want it to. This is

    different from libido. Just means when the opportunity arrises to have sex, you can easily get an maintain an

    erection.
    3. Finally, the most "different" of the 3, being happy. This is a life long effort for us all and there

    is a lot involved, but to keep it simple, let's call it "mood control".

    I have put a lot of thought, research

    and personal experimentation into all 3 of these, but again, to keep it simple, just a few quickies:

    1. I have

    used Tribulus for years and it seems to work for me best together with DHEA. More recently discovered Long Jack,

    also know as Ton Ghat Ali (spelling may be different). That's good as well, and Horny Goat Weed seems to work

    well. In fact, I take them all almost every day. NOTE: there is no replacement for a GOOD workout at the gym.

    Keeping your T levels up and remaining healthy, horny and happy into old age is not a lazy man's sport. Bite the

    bullet and workout hard!
    2. Staying healthy and keeping your T levels up is the first prong of any bed performance

    program, but, yeah, it's really a luxury to be able to turn it on and off with little stress. Makes the bedroom a

    lot more fun place IMHO. AND.... I've tried every imaginable natural treatment for this. Some work very very well

    even next to the pharma stuff, BUT... and it's a big BUT they all seem to end up giving me a headache or some other

    unwanted side effects. That said even the pharmaceuticals give me headaches, and even flu-like symptoms.

    Especially true with Cialis. The other two, not so much and are maybe the better choices for me anyway. Obviously

    it depends on the individual or they wouldn't have any customers at all.
    3. OK, the last (but not least) being

    happy, or ahem.. "mood control". Somebody at some point created medical terms like "depression" "anxiety" and stuff

    like that, so that people could stop pretending they were happy and look for solutions, but the reality is that

    everyone experiences these same problems. Everyone has mood swings, everyone becomes anxious, everyone gets

    depressed. Just a matter of whether you face it and start doing something practical about it. It strikes me as odd

    that a person could go to a doctor and get a script for prozax and the discussion would never get around to

    exercise, diet, vitamins, treating others with love and respect, yoga, meditation, volunteer work maybe. OK, I'll

    get off my soapbox and tell you what I know about supplements. Preaching aside, I have experimented personally with

    tryptophan, 5HTP quite a bit and they certainly do relax the mind, no doubt, but they still seem to give me the ups

    and downs thing, and I have found the following more practical on a long term basis to contribute to my generally

    optimistic outlook together with regular: trips to the gym, yoga exercises, meditation twice a day, giving my family

    and employees as much love as I can manage, volunteer work etc etc.
    1. Acetyl L-Carnatine (1000 mg on an empty

    stomach in the AM)
    2. L Tyrosine (1500 mg) (also in the AM before breakfast)
    3. All the known "adaptogens"

    glnseng, maca, rodiola, Fo Ti etc etc (there are a bunch these days)

    In the evening I take Arginine/ Ornithine

    and 500 mg niacin before meditation

    Before bed I take melatonin and sometimes GABA and some relaxing herbs and

    maybe mint tea.

    If I am particularly stressed about something, I might take some L Theanine. That seems to relax

    nicely without drowsiness or the ups and downs of other treatments.

    OK, that's it in a nutshell. Going to go do

    some meditation.

    Peace and Love,
    B
    To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    OK, finally

    got around to reading this thread. There are two different though related issues here; maybe 3.
    1. Maintaining

    youthful testosterone levels and thereby keeping the libido high.
    2. Keeping the plumbing working the way you want

    it to. This is different from libido. Just means when the opportunity arrises to have sex, you can easily get an

    maintain an erection.
    3. Finally, the most "different" of the 3, being happy. This is a life long effort for us

    all and there is a lot involved, but to keep it simple, let's call it "mood control".

    I have put a lot of

    thought, research and personal experimentation into all 3 of these, but again, to keep it simple, just a few

    quickies:

    1. I have used Tribulus for years and it seems to work for me best together with DHEA. More recently

    discovered Long Jack, also know as Ton Ghat Ali (spelling may be different). That's good as well, and Horny Goat

    Weed seems to work well. In fact, I take them all almost every day. NOTE: there is no replacement for a GOOD

    workout at the gym. Keeping your T levels up and remaining healthy, horny and happy into old age is not a lazy

    man's sport. Bite the bullet and workout hard!
    2. Staying healthy and keeping your T levels up is the first

    prong of any bed performance program, but, yeah, it's really a luxury to be able to turn it on and off with little

    stress. Makes the bedroom a lot more fun place IMHO. AND.... I've tried every imaginable natural treatment for

    this. Some work very very well even next to the pharma stuff, BUT... and it's a big BUT they all seem to end up

    giving me a headache or some other unwanted side effects. That said even the pharmaceuticals give me headaches, and

    even flu-like symptoms. Especially true with Cialis. The other two, not so much and are maybe the better choices

    for me anyway. Obviously it depends on the individual or they wouldn't have any customers at all.
    3. OK, the

    last (but not least) being happy, or ahem.. "mood control". Somebody at some point created medical terms like

    "depression" "anxiety" and stuff like that, so that people could stop pretending they were happy and look for

    solutions, but the reality is that everyone experiences these same problems. Everyone has mood swings, everyone

    becomes anxious, everyone gets depressed. Just a matter of whether you face it and start doing something practical

    about it. It strikes me as odd that a person could go to a doctor and get a script for prozax and the discussion

    would never get around to exercise, diet, vitamins, treating others with love and respect, yoga, meditation,

    volunteer work maybe. OK, I'll get off my soapbox and tell you what I know about supplements. Preaching aside, I

    have experimented personally with tryptophan, 5HTP quite a bit and they certainly do relax the mind, no doubt, but

    they still seem to give me the ups and downs thing, and I have found the following more practical on a long term

    basis to contribute to my generally optimistic outlook together with regular: trips to the gym, yoga exercises,

    meditation twice a day, giving my family and employees as much love as I can manage, volunteer work etc etc.
    1.

    Acetyl L-Carnatine (1000 mg on an empty stomach in the AM)
    2. L Tyrosine (1500 mg) (also in the AM before

    breakfast)
    3. All the known "adaptogens" glnseng, maca, rodiola, Fo Ti etc etc (there are a bunch these

    days)

    In the evening I take Arginine/ Ornithine and 500 mg niacin before meditation

    Before bed I take

    melatonin and sometimes GABA and some relaxing herbs and maybe mint tea.

    If I am particularly stressed about

    something, I might take some L Theanine. That seems to relax nicely without drowsiness or the ups and downs of

    other treatments.

    OK, that's it in a nutshell. Going to go do some meditation.

    Peace and

    Love,
    B
    enjoyed that post, its true nothing beats staying in shape and getting the blood

    moving.
    Meditation alone can do wonders, or anything that allows you to experience the silence between thoughts

    imo.

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    Default Nutrional supplementation

    I believe

    in low level supplementation of selenium (our processed diets can be low in this) & Vit E - they work very well

    together.

    Selenium (100 mcg every other day - 'Food State' type better absorbed). Vit E - 100mg every other

    day. A little & often - no need for mega supplementation.

    This combo alone is a surprisingly good 'pep up' for

    males.

    Supplemental foods like extra water drunk throught the day to combat dehydration, pumpkin seeds munched

    (for zinc & fatty acids), brewers yeast tablet (500mg) a day - gives minerals & B Vits, & a week's course of

    guarana or muira puirma for a tonic.

    The body only wants to reproduce when it has surplus energy otherwise it

    conserves its energy for other things - good quality sleep is essential.

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    libido is very strange word for me, I have no knowledge about the libido. If some one have the knowledge of the libido share with me.

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