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    Default tongkat ali - increased pheromone production?

    Interesting powerpoint presentation on the testing of a rainforest herb, tongkat ali:



    http://www.testingtongkatali.com/testosterone.ppt



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    I have taken tongkat ali

    for a couple of weeks now. It works! For libido anyway. Check out

    www.yohimbe.org it really is a good read. Scroll down the page and on the left

    side there is some good info on tongkat ali.

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    It worked for me the first

    day I took it but with continued use it gets better. It is getting to the point where I have semi wood all the time.

    The sexual urges have increased 10 fold. By the way I am 44 years old. The effects started about an hour to an hour

    and a half. So far there have been no side effects. The only thing you have to watch out for is the quality of the

    ta you buy there seems to be a wide range of product out there so you have to make sure you are taking the right

    amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgerama1960
    It worked for

    me the first day I took it but with continued use it gets better. It is getting to the point where I have semi wood

    all the time. The sexual urges have increased 10 fold. By the way I am 44 years old. The effects started about an

    hour to an hour and a half. So far there have been no side effects. The only thing you have to watch out for is the

    quality of the ta you buy there seems to be a wide range of product out there so you have to make sure you are

    taking the right amount.
    Where are you getting yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burgerama1960
    It worked

    for me the first day I took it but with continued use it gets better. It is getting to the point where I have semi

    wood all the time. The sexual urges have increased 10 fold. By the way I am 44 years old. The effects started about

    an hour to an hour and a half. So far there have been no side effects. The only thing you have to watch out for is

    the quality of the ta you buy there seems to be a wide range of product out there so you have to make sure you are

    taking the right amount.
    Quote Originally Posted by BassMan
    Where are you getting yours?

    -Bass
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    Burger ???????????

    I'd like to play. Is Burger the only test rat using this product?
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    Are there any related

    side-effects, or issues, with using tongkat ali? Is there a tolerance buildup, etc?

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    Its supposed to enhance one's

    health in general (in addition to its libido boosting properties) and i don't think there are any side effects

    associated with the consumption of such a drink with the exception of it being heaty. True to Have_Courage's

    ordeal, it really does taste unpleasant.

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    Medline has a couple

    papers.
    Two pushing the

    stuff:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...<br /> <br />
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...<br /> <br />
    And one mentioning toxic contaminants in some

    samples:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q.../> <br /> 85

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    interesting stuff...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    interesting

    stuff...
    Doc, you're using? Is that a VOODOO WOODY interesting stuff, or a DST intellectual

    reading interesting stuff?

    Annnd, as Bass asked Burger, if you're using, where are you getting

    your fix?

    Always a pleasure ... thanks!
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    Gents,

    There was a thread about

    this about a year and a half back in the Health Forum.
    It was posted by one of this forum's leading aficionados

    in the field of Aphrodisia.

    Whitehall's

    Longjack Thread


    Oscar

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar
    Gents,

    There

    was a thread about this about a year and a half back in the Health Forum.
    It was posted by one of this forum's

    leading aficionados in the field of Aphrodisia.



    Whitehall's Longjack Thread



    Oscar
    Thanks, Oscar!

    Sounds like two different products, reading Whitehall's

    findings, and then Burger's.

    Hope that's not the reason Whitehall has not been around.
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    Never tried it, unless maybe

    in combo with other stuff in other supplements. But sounds promising.
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    Thanks, Oscar. Maybe I'll

    snoop around a bit.
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    I started today with 2 capsules

    of LJ100 in the morning. Dr. Ray Sahelian says that one of the side effects is insomnia so I'll only take it in the

    morning.

    There are also supposedly antihistamine side effects. That would be a positive unintended

    consequence for me.

    Also, some of the websites claim tongkat ali, aka longjack, aka Eurycoma longifolia raise

    pheromone levels. The refer to the pheromones an-a and an-b, (an-alpha and an-beta). Anyone know what these are?



    Here's the pheromone reference:
    http://www.herbal-powers.com/bodbuilfitre.html
    Last edited by nonscents; 01-15-2005 at 02:45 PM. Reason: added link
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    I'd still like to know where

    Burgerama got his product since it worked for him, which takes away the YOU GOT GYPT factor.

    Where you

    get yours, Nonscents? Please keep the 40+ group informed on your findings.

    Thanks!
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    Mobes,

    I got mine here:


    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/herbalpowers/lj10expow.html

    Another site of interest is:


    http://www.tongkatali.org/index.htm
    but they require larger purchases and I didn't want to risk it

    until I tried it out first.

    They are in Aceh province in Indonesia, site of long-running rebellion and recent

    tsunami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonscents
    Mobes,

    I

    got mine

    here:
    http://shop.store.yahoo.com/herbalpowers/lj10e

    xpow.html


    Another site of interest

    is:
    http://www.tongkatali.org/index.htm
    but they require larger

    purchases and I didn't want to risk it until I tried it out first.

    They are in Aceh province in Indonesia, site

    of long-running rebellion and recent tsunami.
    Thanks, Noscents! Did you feel anything after your first

    dose?
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    Try taking Tongkat Ali minus

    the alcohol... and this stuff is not to be taken before bed (except when you need them as bosters to an immanent

    sexual endower) otherwise this stuff is designed to put you on an 'alert' mode all day.

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    I once took a yohimbe product (it

    had some other stuff in it) to see if me and this woman I'm seeing could go "all night" (we usually only go for 5

    hours or so until I run out of steam or she runs out of juices, sorry to be vulgar) but all it did was make me

    flushed and sweaty, and the sweat had a strange, pervasive odour which wasn't particularly disgusting, but

    certainly not pleasant. I would recommend that everyone stay away from anything containing Yohimbe. There are

    heart-health risks to taking it as well.

    Now, Tongkat Ali, I want to try some of this stuff. What's the

    best place to get a 50:1 mix?

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    heres my bionic horny mix,

    tongkat ali,l-arginine,zma,maca,dhea,tribbulus terrestis,yohimbe,and copulins under snout horny goat weed

    my test is like when i was 18

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    You may try this site Slinger:

    http://www.internationalsupplements.com/Products/tribulusterrestris.html

    for the international version or you may also try the Indonesian

    version at:
    http://www.tongkatali.org/

    However, the Malaysian Tongkat Ali are certified as genuine and pure by the Malaysian Government:

    http://www.tenagalelakihebat.com/buy.htm and remember, no alcohol what so ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigstud1105
    You may try this site Slinger:

    http://www.internationalsupplements.com/Products/tribulusterrestris.html

    for the international version or you may also try the Indonesian version

    at:
    http://www.tongkatali.org/

    However, the Malaysian Tongkat Ali are certified as genuine and pure by the Malaysian Government:

    http://www.tenagalelakihebat.com/buy.htm and remember, no alcohol what so ever.
    BigStud, do you have any experience with

    Tongkat, or work for the company? If you have any experience, I would appreciate your thoughts as well. Gotta get

    prepared, Cialis, Viagra, or Tongkat Ali?

    Thanks!
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    Bergerama/Slinger ... any new

    updates/thoughts/concerns on TA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    Bergerama/Slinger ... any new updates/thoughts/concerns on TA?

    Thanks!

    Helloooooooooooooooo! Bergeramaaaaaaaaaaaa! Slingerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Come in please.
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    The only concerns i have

    had is it made me a extremely horny individual. I wore my wife out. Then i ran out of it and my place of purchase

    has not replaced their supplies for me to continue its use. Good stuff. Now i am trying enzte which seems to work

    also except not as drastic as the TA. I was using the 100:1 extract. No side effects except for a semi wood state

    all the time. It made me so horny trees looked good to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by burgerama1960
    The only

    concerns i have had is it made me a extremely horny individual. I wore my wife out. Then i ran out of it and my

    place of purchase has not replaced their supplies for me to continue its use. Good stuff. Now i am trying enzte

    which seems to work also except not as drastic as the TA. I was using the 100:1 extract. No side effects except for

    a semi wood state all the time. It made me so horny trees looked good to me
    There you are!



    So, does it make your wood woodier, or it just makes you want to do the nasty all the time?

    Thanks

    for coming out of the closet to respond!
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    Had plenty of experience with this stuff… taken raw is for the experienced dude only since they are

    outright bitter and acrid. Traditionally used as a means to keep away mosquitoes that transmits diseases such as

    malaria, yellow fever, and dengue. (the only people in Malaysia that are prone to this sort of disease are the city

    dwellers who possibly fed on junk foods) the rural folks are poor and lives in mosquitoes infested zones thus,

    Tongkat Ali has been the life saver indeed. Tongkat Ali comes in various grades namely the lowest and cheaper one

    possibly taken from its bark and stem whereas the purest quality harvest deep down at its roots from a specifically

    matured tree is the one that will stay at par with Viagra. To be sure that you get the correct dose from the

    approved brewer, I proposed the one from the Malaysian website and no Im no worker but just a devotee.


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    BigStud, my woody is quite

    usable, BUT, my ego would love for it to be woodier. Can your experience with the product tell me if TA would make

    my woody woodier?

    Annnd, how old are you, your body measurements (height/weight), and the dosage of TA

    you took, if I may?

    Thanks!
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    Well MOBLEYC57,

    I'm 56 and had no problem ‘just yet’ with my woody. However, the Chinese belief to stabilize a misbehaved piece of

    wood, their sinsei or medicine man suggests using a specially made latex ring at the root of the wood in the hope

    that it would act as a check-valve during intercourse thus regulating flow of blood to and from the wood. Please

    MOBLEYC57, not to do away with that ego as they are the official work order so to speak whlist TA is the booster. TA

    (the special blend known as Tongkat Ali Hitam) is soley dedicated to improve or cure your misery of loosing

    hydraulics when we really need them. Good Luck.

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