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    Default I think I might have OD'd :[

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    I went to a party at a friend's house 2 hours after putting on an entire gelpak of Alter Ego and 2

    dabs of APC. I used 2 sprays of Chanel Allure for cover.

    My interactions with the women there were pretty

    normal, one was a little more outgoing than normal even. Nonetheless, I think I OD'd with respect to one girl's

    tolerance for the mones. I introduced myself to her because I had heard that she had recently dropped out of law

    school. I did the same, and figured we would have a lot to talk about. But she seemed in a huge rush to stop talking

    to me the whole time. She answered in monosyllabs at most. She wouldn't give me the right time of day. Granted she

    was the best looking girl at the party, but it was only like 20 people max. Furthermore, she was being very social

    and totally ebullient the rest of the night from what i observed. Is it likely that she became all quiet and

    unsociable because of my mones? I can't say I have ever been treated like that.

    EDIT: The interaction with this

    girl must have taken place 3 or even 3 and a half hours after applying the mones.

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    I too have noticed that same

    type of effect. Girls at first are dazed, then talkitive, and suddenly anti-everything they just was.

    Yep you

    ODed preaty good there. More is less.

    I believe I ODed on wagg and SoE. 3 drops wagg, 8 inches SoE. I got those

    VERY same effects.

    "The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by poonchaser22
    Is it likely

    that she became all quiet and unsociable because of my mones? I can't say I have ever been treated like

    that.
    Far be it from Mr. OD here to give advice about women, but I'm going to onyhoo!

    Yep, could have

    OD'd. However, chances are she didn't want to talk about being a dropout with you. The fact that you did the same

    thing isn't a consolation, nor should something as negative as this be the foundation of your discussion. Instead

    of her reinforcing a negative emotion/connection with you, you should have been more upbeat and built your house on

    a rock instead of quicksand, allowing her to see herself and yourself in a more positive light.
    "Some days will stay a thousand years, some pass like the flash of a spark...who knows where all our days go?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by poonchaser22
    Nonetheless, I think I OD'd with respect to one girl's tolerance for the mones. I introduced

    myself to her because I had heard that she had recently dropped out of law school. I did the same, and figured we

    would have a lot to talk about. But she seemed in a huge rush to stop talking to me the whole time. She answered in

    monosyllabs at most. She wouldn't give me the right time of day. Granted she was the best looking girl at the

    party, but it was only like 20 people max. Furthermore, she was being very social and totally ebullient the rest of

    the night from what i observed. Is it likely that she became all quiet and unsociable because of my mones?

    This does NOT sound like an OD to me. It sounds like you weren't paying attention to her "Not Interested"

    signals.

    Pheromones don't come with a guarantee that every girl will magically think you are the most

    interesting person in the world.

    And as you point out she was the best-looking person at the party, she probably

    gets a lot of guys trying to talk her up. You struck out and there is no shame in that, but you failed to realize

    you had struck out with the monosyllabic answers.

    You should write down 100 times, "When a girl answers in

    monosyllables, she is NOT INTERESTED IN ME AND I SHOULD MOVE ON."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis
    Yep, could have

    OD'd. However, chances are she didn't want to talk about being a dropout with you. The fact that you did the same

    thing isn't a consolation, nor should something as negative as this be the foundation of your discussion. Instead

    of her reinforcing a negative emotion/connection with you, you should have been more upbeat and built your house on

    a rock instead of quicksand, allowing her to see herself and yourself in a more positive light.
    I agree

    totally. Never strike up a discussion with a girl on a negative beat. She'll associate the negative feelings with

    you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poonchaser22


    I went to a party at a friend's house 2 hours after putting on an entire

    gelpak of Alter Ego and 2 dabs of APC. I used 2 sprays of Chanel Allure for cover.

    My interactions with the

    women there were pretty normal, one was a little more outgoing than normal even. Nonetheless, I think I OD'd with

    respect to one girl's tolerance for the mones. I introduced myself to her because I had heard that she had recently

    dropped out of law school. I did the same, and figured we would have a lot to talk about. But she seemed in a huge

    rush to stop talking to me the whole time. She answered in monosyllabs at most. She wouldn't give me the right time

    of day. Granted she was the best looking girl at the party, but it was only like 20 people max. Furthermore, she was

    being very social and totally ebullient the rest of the night from what i observed. Is it likely that she became all

    quiet and unsociable because of my mones? I can't say I have ever been treated like that.

    EDIT: The interaction

    with this girl must have taken place 3 or even 3 and a half hours after applying the mones.
    my

    suggestion would be to work the entire room. the more interactions the better for a more accurate idea of how people

    respond to the mones. and sometimes less is more and sometimes more is mucho. women will respond differently

    depending on time of month social and mental attitude at that moment. basically with mones we are trying to get the

    response we desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis
    Far be it from

    Mr. OD here to give advice about women, but I'm going to onyhoo!

    Yep, could have OD'd. However, chances are

    she didn't want to talk about being a dropout with you. The fact that you did the same thing isn't a consolation,

    nor should something as negative as this be the foundation of your discussion. Instead of her reinforcing a negative

    emotion/connection with you, you should have been more upbeat and built your house on a rock instead of quicksand,

    allowing her to see herself and yourself in a more positive light.
    Nice observation. There might also have

    been a component where she got a sense of being manipulated to feel kinship based on this negative feeling, even if

    it was righteous anger toward the damn law school. She might be aware of a need in herself to move on or to be

    "bigger than that", even if she hasn't lived up to that. The way that might have worked might have been if you role

    modeled the kind of attitude toward it she was striving for, but even that is risky, since her parents could be

    lecturing her to have that attitude and she could want to rebel. Anyway, that is a long winded way to say Elvis and

    Friendly are right.

    It's helpful to know that hotties do have scads of guys hitting on them and to observe

    them completely objectively to see where they might be coming from. You can use all that knowledge to add to your

    confidence that you know ex actly how she needs to be treated. The best scenario -- assuming it works -- is to

    simply be a solid, unmoved object and let her find and approach you. That very much changes the initial dynamic.

    Honestly not expecting anything in the way of sexual energy from her helps too -- and having that self-control. They

    can pick up on all that. If you approach it with that knowing and have your shit together -- to where your energy is

    different than all the guys hitting on her -- that helps.

    It sometimes amazes me that even having a stunning

    amount of things in common with a woman, and things that "should" impress her in particular a great deal,

    seem to make zero impact on a girl's attraction to you -- even if you are wearing pheromones and are

    dresssed nice. Then the tendency is to think, "What's the use? We seem perfect for each other and she still

    doesn't like me -- not even enough for a two minute chat!" It can be quite frustrating and discouraging. Women can

    seem weird that way.

    But a cold, objective view works wonders in that case. She could have a boyfriend (very

    often the case), she could be gay, she could be a lot of things; she could have some superficial issue, etc.

    And

    yes, it could be the wrong time of the month for attraction. Also, her own pheromones just might not be compatible

    or complementary with yours. It's not your fault if you are biochemically incompatible with someone. Neither of you

    have control over that.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Or she just ain't into you. The

    most powerful 'mones, shined shoes and good intentions can't force her to change her mind. Plus, Elvis did make a

    very good point about bringing up somethinng likely to be a all time low in her recent life.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    hah, yeah i suppose it

    probably wasnt all that bright of me to just start talking about a common failure...i guess she didn't take it as

    well as me. she might also have been put off that i was at a top school and left more personal reasons while she

    was at a third rate school, and for all i know, might not have been capable of doing the work.

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    I think you could have pulled

    it off if you had been entertaining (funny, cheerful, teasing, etc.). As Friendly said, when you saw signs of

    disinterest in the topic you should have either changed your angle or bailed out.
    CptKipling

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