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    I'm new to

    this whole thing and I just got my order. This is what I have, Chikara (leaking ), SOE (Musk Scented), The

    Edge & SPMO (Beginners Special), APC, and some SOE Gel Packs along with the Free Sample Gel packs.

    My first

    question is about the JB#1 mix. It says to use APC + NPA @ 7:3. I don't own NPA, but do own TE. From what I have

    read NPA is the same as TE all but it's 4X stronger. So if I mixed APC + TE @ 7:12, would that be the same as the

    JB#1?

    Question #2, do I apply cologne over the same spot I applied the mones? If I do, will it effect the mones?



    Also, anyone have any personal favorites involving Chikara? As I haven't seen too many reports on mixing it

    with other products. Sorry about the newbie questions, thanks for any input.

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    Funny you mention that. I also

    got the beginners specail and wanted to make JB #2 which is NPA + SPMO @ 3:7, so I mixed TE + SPMO @ 12:7. I

    personally can't smell Anone so I couldn't give a first hand account of whether that is too much, but I was told

    that even though the math says that it should be equivalent that it seems like that is too much TE; however, I am

    still experimenting with ratios of TE and SPMO.

    I was also told to try it in 1:1 and 1:2 (TE:SPMO).

    I

    would say maybe mix a little of it and see how it works for you (wouldnt wear more than 2 sprays at most). Then

    based on reactions you could adjust the levels of APC and TE accordingly.

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    One more thing, make sure you

    post your results I would love to see how it works out for you.

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    I'm pretty certain NPA is 5

    times more concentrated than TE. For awhile it was thought to be 4x because of the discrepancy in bottle size, 20ml

    vs 24ml.

    So, (if I am correct) 7:15.

    FWIW, I have had more luck with 10:1 SOE:NPA (2:1 SOE:TE) or

    10:1 SPMO:NPA (again 2:1 with TE).

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    I got a lot of stuff to play

    around with so I'll be posting some results soon.

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    I was under the impression that

    NPA had roughly 0.48mg/ml of Anone and that TE had 0.12mg/ml of Anone. Unless I am mistaken on those concentrations

    then it is 4x diluted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiberius
    I was under the

    impression that NPA had roughly 0.48mg/ml of Anone and that TE had 0.12mg/ml of Anone. Unless I am mistaken on those

    concentrations then it is 4x diluted.
    The confusion is coming from the bottle size issue. IIRC, the Edge

    bottle _always_ was 24 ml, but was incorrectly labeled as 20 ml in the beginning.

    Both have 2.4 mg total

    pheros.

    TE/m contains 24 ml, and therefore has a concentration of 0.1 mg/ml total pheros, half of which is none,

    or 0.05 mg/ml none.

    NPA/m contains 5 ml (or at least the size that contains 2.4 mg pheros does), and therefore

    has a concentration of 0.48 mg/ml total pheros, half of which is none, or 0.24 mg/ml none.

    -Bass
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    Thanks for clearing that up for

    me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLJS
    Also, anyone

    have any personal favorites involving Chikara? As I haven't seen too many reports on mixing it with other products.

    Sorry about the newbie questions, thanks for any input.
    Chikara ideas .....

    http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11559

    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Thanks Bassman.

    So 4.8

    drops of TE = 1 drop of NPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Stripe
    Thanks Bassman.



    So 4.8 drops of TE = 1 drop of NPA.
    Suscinctly put, yuppers

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    Thanks, that helps alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLJS
    My first

    question is about the JB#1 mix. It says to use APC + NPA @ 7:3. I don't own NPA, but do own TE. From what I have

    read NPA is the same as TE all but it's 4X stronger. So if I mixed APC + TE @ 7:12, would that be the same as the

    JB#1?
    When you think about it, JB#1 really isn't much of a mix at all... it's basically NPA

    with a cover scent. Since APC has only 'none (and not much of it), it is just slightly supplementing what is

    already in the NPA. Actually, he even says basically just that: NPA for the 'none sexual hits, and APC for the

    scent.


    Riley

    (btw, I hope this thread isn't TOO old to post to)

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