OD report

[Elvis]

This was an experiment of

mine last night.

I put on some TE:SPMO mix @ 1:1 ratio. Was equivalent to 2 sprays TE from 10ml atomiser. Then,

I slathered on an entire packet of Edge gelpack with some cologne.

The night started with the Italian girl

I’ve been pestering recently. I sent her about 3 text messages last week and she ignored every one of them. I

called her shit by sending an extremely abusive message and calling her a whore. Guess what…she phones 30

seconds later saying, “I’m sorry…busy/no credit in phone/only received one message not 3, blah,

blah…” I continued to give her shit. It’s sad that I have to get her attention this way, but if

she didn’t want to know me in the first place she could tell me to my face instead of disrespecting me by

ignoring me and telling lies.

We meet in a café. Have coffee. She is uncomfortable, obviously. However, she then

asks me to have dinner/go out to a club later…I said no. She just said it to be polite.

Then, I meet with

some friends. We play guitar. They treat me like a God, even though one of my friends (a fabulous dude) plays like

f/ Satriani.

We go out. Guess what, there is Italian girl. She tries to speak, but she only does it ‘cause

I gave her shit, so what’s the point in that. She then talks to a hunky dude for ages, gushing over his looks,

forgetting I was there because of this piece of eye candy. So, I ignore her in return. She is so f/ shallow, if I

dived into her I’d break my neck.

Another girl asks me to find her coat. Common dealing here. I ask her

friend for the coat who is with some gorilla. He says, “Who the f/ are you. Can’t you see I’m busy

here?” I say quite seriously, “I don’t give a fuck you ugly ape, I’m just looking for that

ladies coat” Then I squeeze his ridiculously oversized pectorals, making ape gestures, not even joking. He

laughs. Asshole.

In disco. Hot porn star type (ageing, but ageing well/naturally ‘bout 35 years old)

Declares that I am f/ gorgeous and wants to f/ me. She shouted it very loudly in front of everyone. I accept the

‘compliment?’ and she then leaves with another man. Cheap tart.

Met a 19-year-old guy who was f/

brilliant. He had his entire life sussed. Beautiful woman (23) I mean gorgeous but a real person too. Good job. Nice

people with him. I hope I meet him again sometime. He doesn’t pander to other people, just believes in

himself.

Met a gorilla guy outside. I was thinking he would probably start some shit but he was different.

Wanted to speak like a human being. Got on really well with this dude. Seemed to not be afraid of me at all, but

wanted to talk about life. We agree to have a drink next time we meet (can’t rave enough about this guy.

Really powerful looking. Muscular. Huge frame. 6’ plus. Polite. Pleasant. Gentleman. Good looking. I’m

not gay btw. Sort of guy who isn’t afraid of anything/anyone, but treats everybody as an equal with great

respect. Sort of guy who would give his life fighting to protect his family, or friends, for what he believes in. I

really hope I see him again).

An asshole acquaintance of mine was trying to drag some drunk ass woman home to f/

her. Just to take advantage. She could barely stand up or speak. I tell him to leave the girl alone, she is

vulnerable and should sleep it off. He gets really angry (naturally) ‘cause I’m interfering with his

prospect. Dickhead. So, I tell him if he has a problem with my opinion, if he believes it is wrong and I am wrong

then to fight me. He says no. He knows he is wrong, but doesn’t have the guts to show it like a man. Just

wants his f/ end away. Idiot

So, I storm off, disgusted by society in general. These people have no

self-respect. I wish I didn’t care but that is not me.

So, I phoned up some friends, the guitar crowd.

They agree to have a jam next week. They are really enthusiastic, so maybe we can cut some tracks.

OD’ing

purposefully, for me has separated the men from the boys. I can see people with self-respect and respect for others,

so much more clearly than before. The wankers stick out like a sore thumb, and I take great pleasure in broadcasting

their sorry asses to the general public. At the same time, I am drawn toward the strong willed characters, who have

dignity and believe in themselves. Maybe ‘none makes me too aggressive. But I can’t say I dislike the

effect. My bullshit detector is on maximum overdrive.

Anyone had a night like this, sometime?

[LINY]

That was deep. Glad I haven't

experienced serious OD yet...!

[Elvis]

Liny, I don't regret a

single second of it. In fact, despite my obvious distress...it was one of the best nights of my life. Did this ever

happen to you without 'mones?

[Elvis]

Wow, this forum is the best

thing since on the 'net. I'm glad I found it.

[LINY]

You say it was one of the best

nights of your life...do you mean, as far as enjoying yourself, or for learning a lot about people? I've had plenty

of crappy nights or nights that I felt more alpha than others (both which normally included alcohol) but probably

not quite the type of experience as you've described. It seems as though most of the time I'm underdosed more than

overdosed. I've had primary success with repeated applications of SPMO:TE 1:1 as well. Of what I've been reading,

it seems people using Perception have been finding it difficult to overdose, likely because you don't have to

repeat applications throughout the day/night in the first place, and is likely the best bet...?

[Elvis]

You say it was

one of the best nights of your life...do you mean, as far as enjoying yourself, or for learning a lot about

people?

Both. I found myself in a few situations I usually wouldn't want to be in, and a few I did want

to be in. However, I enjoyed it because I think I discovered something about myself and other people. Your

statement, for me, has one meaning.

What kind of success have you had with the 'mones?

[LINY]

This is my 'main' success story:

http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12147

Since that week I've held off on using

pheromones very much since I've been real busy lately and didn't want to waste it. My biggest gripe is still that

it wears off very quickly on my body, like within an hour or so, and I've been waiting for the new Platinum

Perception to come out before buying it for the extended release. Basically when I put on two sprays of SPMO:TE 1:1

on my wrists and talk closely to most younger women, I've had huge success, so much so that it seems to last to the

days when I don't even wear them! Memory trigger? They give me a sort of alpha buzz of sorts, but I haven't been

able to totally decipher whether its a placebo effect or not. I've got to try different application points and

higher dosages, since I haven't had any kind of OD that I have noticed yet.

[Elvis]

Just read it. Great report

man!

[LINY]

Thanks man, I'm going to go to

work now and see how far two sprays of the same mix takes me. I look forward to experimenting with this mix and

using SoE when going to local car dealers to buy a used car, see if it has any effect on them. Seems it would be

difficult to detect though, maybe a -none type reaction would be too aggressive and hurt my deal?

[Elvis]

I'm sorry, I have no

authority in this case to say if you should wear 'none or not. In light of my recent experiences, I'd personally

go easy on the 'none. But, that is just an opinion. With 'none, I can smell bullshit a mile away. If the salesman

is aware you're balking at his crummy patter, he may resent you and be a hardass. Or, he may kiss your feet because

you're honest. Depends what kind of guy he is and maybe how much 'none you are wearing???

[eric_pelletier_tw]

well that's an OD :P

i never ODed on none but i did on SoE gel (smelled catpiss after a few min ... need to test.... ) i must be not

wearing enough i have tried TE 1/4 of a pack up till now & no OD ill trie to go out next weekend see if i can get

some results with 1/2 TE [i dont go out much ] btw i putted a ridicoulous amout of SoE to OD ... ill try again

...

[Surreal]

next time I want some trouble I

will OD.

-S

[Watcher]

Celticbhoy we shuold keep talking

lol - its always good to meet a like minded individual ie society and its various sheetheads and wanerks and then

the nice individuals, decent human beings who give a damn instead of being losers in dealing with others.

I

get this sort of thing every day - you will get used to it after a while but if you are getting results from

pheromones and you should keep using them to get the advantage over others.

Use it for good or at least youre

good.

[Elvis]

next time I

want some trouble I will OD.

Hahaha...beauty!

but if you are getting results

from pheromones...

I know I'm getting results/reactions/hits or whatever you want to call them,

unfortunately they are not the ones I want. Even with quite low amounts of 'none people look at me like I'm Jack

the Ripper. I'm looking for that thing that makes ladies crazy about you and really dig you, not just for a f/

(although I wouldn't baulk at the prospect). Maybe, I should not try any 'none for a week or so, scrub it all of

my body and then start again with only a couple of dabs of TE and work upwards. Alternatively, I could try another

product. I am still thinking about buying Perception and Chikara/SOE gel packs. But if I don't need much 'none; I

still have plenty of TE...I could use that as a source and maybe combine it with a more friendly/less threatening

product. Do I need Perception, since it has 'none in it? Do I need the 'rone? I can find 'nol in other products,

although the extended release seems like a big bonus. Would copulins be the opposite of 'none and round off the

lone wolf effect?

Perhaps I should also work on some aspects of my character. But I find that even when I'm

being really nice, I am still ignored, avoided, shunned et al. Sometimes I feel like a leper. Maybe I give people

the creeps. I can't understand it though. I am not bad looking. My personal hygiene is as good as anyone's. I try

to treat people with respect, dignity, find out about them and their lives. I don't stare at people, or scare them

with my conversational topics....so, I'm a bit confused at the moment. I just want a woman who's brave enough to

take me on, but why they need to feel like this to get on with me...I have no idea.

[Watcher]

Again me without the mones =

suggest you serioulsy consider the perception you get the SOE and chikara and the edge gel packs with that (try them

seperatley)

The thing wiht perception is the Anone is 25% of the total mix - its the Anol that gets people

chatty, happy more into you without being scared off

Similar thing with attraction despite the Anone it plays

second fiddle to the Anol which is the big one. IT seems to cancel out a lot of the bad vibes of straight

Anone

Arone will make you appear more dependable less lone wolf type - it is actually similar to my original

DD#1 mix.

Id try the cops later on - just try the perception first the extended realise thing really is much

more effective - im getting big time hits with perception latley (it seems on part with perfect 10 dare i

say)

Of cousre you could go SOE/NPA - DD#1 mix the scents mix well you could try the scentless version. 70%

SOE and 30% NPA + with NPA you get the 2 secret ingredients that make it a different Anone product (its anone with

respect)

[Fuse]

Celtic, you've got a good head on

your shoulders. Some people may think your antics are cruel, but the way you dealt with that Italian chick was

excellent. I look foward to reading more from you in the future. I'm planning on going to work with a -none OD in

the near future. Hopefully it's a good experience.

[Watcher]

Fuse his handling of this airhead

/ attention seeking immature girl in the circumstances was acceptible it is of course unlikley to affect her in

anyway as she has moved on already - these types dont sit still long enough to notice a good quality guy thye like

being treated like cr@p by these arrogant pigs in the world. A good guy just doesnt equate for them they aint

exciting in their eyes.

Celticbhoy if he keeps looking will come across plenty of attractive but good human

sane girls out there. In the meantime it sounds like he is having a lot of fun with the world lol along the way and

with the pheromones working for him - perception if it works as well as it does with me will really spin him

out.

More fun to come.

[Elvis]

Arone will

make you appear more dependable less lone wolf type

Interesting.

im getting big

time hits with perception latley

What kind of results have you had in the past week or two, Watcher?

I look foward to reading more from you in the future. I'm planning on going to work with a -none

OD in the near future. Hopefully it's a good experience.

Thanks Fuse. I hope the OD goes well. I don't

think it's something I will try again for a while. But, it was certainly an eye opener!

[bjf]

Celtic, it is obvious Chikara would

help you. Wagg probably would to, but I think Chikara would help a bunch. Get that. No need for Perception for

your problem, although that product helps other problems (buildup, extended release).

[belgareth]

The night

started with the Italian girl I’ve been pestering recently. I sent her about 3 text messages last week and she

ignored every one of them. I called her shit by sending an extremely abusive message and calling her a whore. Guess

what…she phones 30 seconds later saying, “I’m sorry…busy/no credit in phone/only received one message not 3, blah,

blah…” I continued to give her shit. It’s sad that I have to get her attention this way, but if she didn’t want to

know me in the first place she could tell me to my face instead of disrespecting me by ignoring me and telling

lies.

We meet in a café. Have coffee. She is uncomfortable, obviously. However, she then asks me to have

dinner/go out to a club later…I said no. She just said it to be polite.

Celticbhoy,

Under my philosophy

she wasn't worth the wasted time and energy; she didn't deserve your attention! After getting ignored twice I

would have written her off as a waste of my time. I'd much rather have spent the time out trying to meet another

lady who might have treated me with a bit more respect. Ok, being abusive to her made you feel good temporarily.

What did you really gain other than the chance to waste some time on somebody that you were unlikely to ever connect

with?

BJF has a good point about Chikara. You should try it, maybe with a small amount of TE or Perception but

try to keep your none levels down. I think you'll have better luck that way.

[Have_Courage]

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[Friendly1]

Celtic, you've got

a good head on your shoulders. Some people may think your antics are cruel, but the way you dealt with that Italian

chick was excellent. I look foward to reading more from you in the future. I'm planning on going to work with a

-none OD in the near future. Hopefully it's a good experience.

While I do encourage guys to

experiment with OD-level applications, I STRONGLY recommend AGAINST trying it out at work or with close friends and

family.

The bolder the experiment, the safer you will be trying it around strangers.

[Knuuttipukki]

I tried 4 sprays of TE

today...more eye contact but no other effects...I´m going to try with 6 or more tomorrow and see what happens. Cold

weather may be the partial reason for this lack of hits.(or perhaps I should try something else)



Btw...Friendly1 is correct...don´t OD at work...if your boss has a bad day he/she´ll propably make you feel it too

;D

Damaged friendship is really tough to repair...

[deepblue]

That was a strange story, you

sound very immature.

[sprayit]

Celticbhoy

I don't

understand the purpose of the mentioned abusive behaviour. If a lady doesn't like you, she doesn't like you. No

use slagging her off when she isn't interested. She is no less a human being for not wanting to bed

you.

There's baseline respect (minimum levels of etiquette expressed say towards some stranger), and

there's 'above baseline respect' which is earned by behaviour, looks, status, or even -mones.

Believing

one is entitled to above baseline levels of respect is in my opinion, one of the less desirable alpha male traits,

and it is only attractive to those who welcome quick casual domination (usually the mightily insecure).

In

contrast to what other posts have said, I believe one absolutely should “take it personally” if a lady

doesn't follow up a call. After all, she chooses to abstain for reasons relating to your personal attributes, be

they your appearance, your manner etc.. and it's her right.

Besides, if we never fail, we never improve.

Anyhow, I admire your sheer honesty and enjoyed your post

[Elvis]

No use

slagging her off when she isn't interested. She is no less a human being for not wanting to bed you.

It

would have been nice for her to tell me to my face she wasn't interested. And I am no less of a human being for

wanting to bed her.

Thanks for comments though.

[Elvis]

That was a

strange story, you sound very immature.

I will try to modify my behaviour. However, at least I recognise I

have a problem, unlike most of the people I seem to come across who are equally to blame, but won't admit it. Their

faults are no less pronounced simply because I have them too.

[belgareth]

I will try to

modify my behaviour. However, at least I recognise I have a problem, unlike most of the people I seem to come across

who are equally to blame, but won't admit it. Their faults are no less pronounced simply because I have them

too.

Recognizing that there are things about yourself you would like to change is a great first step.

Don't worry about what others are doing as some will never figure it out. You're already a step ahead by wanting

to change things about yourself. That's really the hardest part. The next thing is to decide what you want to

differently and how you are going to go about it. Different methods work for different people. Look around, go to

the library and visit bookstores to check out what is available in self help. You might also consider paying for one

of the various personality evaluation (DST is probably the most knowledgable on the forum about them). The results

usually aren't much fun but can be a real eye-opener.

It is never easy to change yourself but it can be very

rewarding.

Good luck

[chococat]

I think I have "OD'ed" on the

copulins a few times. The first few days I used EW, I would take the dropper and scrape it down the side of my upper

arms. One three inch scrape for each arm. This didn't seem like much to me, but it seems like the days that I do

this, I get strange reactions. Keep in mind, I haven't worn copulins to a club, only to my university. For

instance, I spent an hour on campus talking to another student my age today. He's interested in me romantically,

but I'm not interested in him. Everything I said seemed to be some kind of innuendo in his brain. (For instance, I

said something about loving "electronic gadgets" and his first thought was "vibrator.") He actually leaned in to

smell (snort) my hair. Then he hugged me very tightly at some very random and inopportune times.

It was a

very strange experience overall.

[Elvis]

It is never

easy to change yourself but it can be very rewarding.

Thanks, this kind of thing gives me hope.

Everything I said seemed to be some kind of innuendo in his brain. (For instance, I said

something about loving "electronic gadgets" and his first thought was "vibrator.")

Welcome to the

pathetic male psyche, chococat!
Most men I know, (myself included) are just like this by nature.

He actually leaned in to smell (snort) my hair. Then he hugged me very tightly at some very random

and inopportune times.

I am the embodiment of this behaviour. I suppose some people can't sing, dance,

drive...or have timing in said situation. Please tell him to his face you're not interested in him romantically and

soon, if you haven't already done so. I'm sure he knows this in his heart already...anyway, but men have an

uncanny ability to only believe what they want to believe unless they are explicitly informed otherwise. This

doesn't mean it has to be awkward. Just do it professionally and fairly...but don't leave him in any doubt and

don't give him any hope whatsoever. You have to be cruel to be kind sometimes.