I managed to OD on Perception

[Yoel]

Pretty

nice, uh?

I'm beginning to think my signature is heavy on -none, despite my slim build, since I can

hardly wear NPA and today I had this bad experience with Perception alone.

Well, let's get to the point:

used 3 1/2 sprays of the stuff (first one came out really really weak) on my neck and my buddy got seasick and had

to move, then a friend gal of mine was exceedingly harsh to me. I quickly tried with success to wash off some mones

thus saving my sorry ass. Things seemed pretty normal after.

I think I'll try soe tomorrow and see what

happens.

Yoel

[ManBeast]

3.5 sprays is a LOT of

Perception. I would stick to no more than say 2.5 at the absolute max (and then, no more `none!). I would also

distribute the 2.5 as following:
.5: shared between forearms/wrists/neck
1: back of torso
1: front of

torso

MB

[Yoel]

I can't really apply on my torso

since it's freezing cold here...we wander around in sweater and heavy coat.

Anyway, tomorrow I'm trying soe

standalone and then maybe I'll switch back to 1-2 sprays perception max. I upped that cause I couldn't get any

effect, now I have proof that it works
I haven't figured my phero-sign yet...

Yoel

[pheromack]

your friend was harsh in what

way?and you were out on the ocean?I think maybe ur friend being seasick is just from the water, i dont think mones

can make another person sick.

[Friendly1]

Sounds like an iffy OD to me,

too. You should try the same application again in a different situation.

[Yoel]

Oh come on, we weren't on a boat,

he just felt bad, and mones can definitely do that. It's not the first time it's been reported.

The girl

was nasty, just like pissed off, while I was calm and didn't offend her at all.

It eventually stopped after

I washed some of the mones off.

Yoel

[Yoel]

Sounds like an

iffy OD to me, too. You should try the same application again in a different situation.

I will

definitely do that.
I know some guys here talk about amazing results with 4-5-6 sprays of perception and that's

mainly why I tried it, but that was really a bad experience. I'll try again when I'm not around my friends, so I

won't have to regret after

Yoel

[Friendly1]

I will definitely

do that.
I know some guys here talk about amazing results with 4-5-6 sprays of perception and that's mainly why I

tried it, but that was really a bad experience. I'll try again when I'm not around my friends, so I won't have to

regret after

Yoel

Remember, it works differently for everyone. That is why experimentation is so

important. I just roll my eyes whenever guys try something once and conclude it's either the biggest thing since

sliced bread or the worst disaster of their lives.

One day tells you very little. One year of experimentation

tells you a great deal more.

[Yoel]

I can see your point, absolutely,

but how would you feel if your friends started to avoid or get mad at you? I'm not saying that would happen every

day from now on if I use 4 sprays, but it's not unlikely. That's not something I want to explore further. I MAY

try again around them, but not before a month or so. I'll rather experiment on strangers.

Yoel

[Yoel]

Furthermore she might be in her

cycle, thus the extra-sensitivity.
Once I am sure they forgot what happened today, I'll strike back like the

Empire.

Yoel

[TRock]

Pretty nice, uh?



I'm beginning to think my signature is heavy on -none, despite my slim build, since I can hardly wear NPA and

today I had this bad experience with Perception alone.

Well, let's get to the point: used 3 1/2 sprays of the

stuff (first one came out really really weak) on my neck and my buddy got seasick and had to move, then a friend gal

of mine was exceedingly harsh to me. I quickly tried with success to wash off some mones thus saving my sorry ass.

Things seemed pretty normal after.

I think I'll try soe tomorrow and see what happens.

Yoel

i

have the same problem. i get results soe and chiakara with a small amount of te. i don't have perception but i have

ae and don't seem to get much results from ae.

[Friendly1]

I can see your

point, absolutely, but how would you feel if your friends started to avoid or get mad at you?

Stuff

happens. You may still be young enough that you haven't had a "good" friend completely turn upon you and try to

turn everyone's opinion against you. That happened to me when I was in college. I didn't realize some people

just HAVE to be the most important person in the group. I learned the hard way that there are really people like

that. So, minor stuff like you described doesn't mean much to me.

Also, it's impossible for any of us to

really know what happened on the basis of a few sentences. Even if you write a long-winded report like one of mine,

how much information can you really convey to us?

I can only compare your remarks to my own experience. I have

had people avoid me, I believe, because of pheromones. You may be on the money.

But you still need to

experiment.

[Surreal]

to the lab!!!!! : )

[Yoel]

Stuff happens.

You may still be young enough that you haven't had a "good" friend completely turn upon you and try to turn

everyone's opinion against you. That happened to me when I was in college. I didn't realize some people just

HAVE to be the most important person in the group. I learned the hard way that there are really people like that.

So, minor stuff like you described doesn't mean much to me.

Also, it's impossible for any of us to really

know what happened on the basis of a few sentences. Even if you write a long-winded report like one of mine, how

much information can you really convey to us?

I can only compare your remarks to my own experience. I have

had people avoid me, I believe, because of pheromones. You may be on the money.

But you still need to

experiment.

Friendly, I appreciate your reports and I'm sorry if mine are cryptic and concise, but being

a lazy ass not-english-speaking guy, I lose a good amount of time just trying to convey my thoughts in a meaningful

way... I read english like my mother tongue, but when it comes to writing, heh

You are right. I never

experienced betrayal so my skin is less thick than yours, that's true. And I am not eager to risk it just to

experiment with my mones... I can do that with acquaintances rather than friends. Results may be less significative,

but hopefully I'll get some insight anyway.
Moreover, I have no reason to believe more is more for me, the old

maxim comes to my mind... Now that I have hit what I think is an OD, I'll start back from the beginning of the

ladder, and see what happens.

And interesting thing to notify though: tonight, after 10 hours from the

application, and about 8 hours after the washing madness, the mother of a friend of mine just had to tell me I

looked great, like three or four times, and was astonished when I told her I have no gf, she even said that if she

were a girl she would have fallen for me.
Not the hits I'm looking for ( ) but indeed a weird reaction, she

usually kind of puts me down.

Tomorrow: SOE.

Yoel

[Watcher]

Yoel older women usally do respond

as well - that said if 3.5 sprays gave you the OD you could try later down the track but knock it back to 2-2.5

sprays perhaps - yes i do get great reactions with 4-6 but at the same time i do get negative reactions - but unless

its important it is short term in nature

Yes sometimes less is better - you just need to experiment and you

are experimenting - sounds like you need more Anol than Anone. So follow youre instincts and keep us informed.

[Knuuttipukki]

I wonder if I should try to

find out my OD limit with perception...

[Watcher]

Knuuttipukki - if you have a spare

day and say going to a shopping centre for xmas shopping you could try OD say 8 sprays lol (ok maybe not) but if you

want to test the OD you want a non-specific unimportant day in which to test it out.

[Friendly1]

Knuuttipukki -

if you have a spare day and say going to a shopping centre for xmas shopping you could try OD say 8 sprays lol (ok

maybe not) but if you want to test the OD you want a non-specific unimportant day in which to test it out.

Absolutely. You need to be relaxed. You can blow a good day by anticipating too much, allowing yourself to be

worked up, etc. And then you'll blame everything but your mood.

That is what experimenting is all about.