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    Most of my experience in life

    has been in a leadership role of one sort or another. Mostly corporate with teams of technical people reporting to

    me. During that time I knew nothing of mones. Instead I relied on some good leadership training. People will

    willingly follow a leader who shows through actions that he thinks of his people first and supports them in every

    way possible. Far too many leaders rely on the brute force approach, "I am in charge and you'll do what I tell

    you". Your people will follow you that way, many grudgingly. But if they know that you think as "we" and they are

    all part of it you'll have their enthusiastic support in many more cases. It's a harder approach to use but once

    you earn their respect you'll have a far better team for it and your job will be much easier.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Trust me, I have been on both

    sides of that type of leadership and its definitely not the best way to go. I am not planning on having my

    leadership style devolve back into that way of thinking.

    The thing with the mones that I am wanting is for

    whomever I may be addressing to "perk up" and think to themselves (subconscienously) "hey I should listen to this

    guy"
    type of effect.

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    TRy using TE or Perception but

    be sparing with it at first and you'd probably do well to avoid superior officers while wearing it.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Hehe, yea I'll keep that in

    mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    I take showers

    every morning. I would think the soap will clean the mones out. Is that right?
    Mobley's answer/thought

    ... NOPE. NG, if you've been reading, you've run across mone build up. I AM NOT an expert. With that being said,

    this is a non expert's thought ... you know how women use make up, and at the end of the day, they wash their

    faces, and then use one of those pads to thoroughly clean the rest of the make up off? That's how mone build up

    works, I THINK. Showering won't cut it because of the oils, is my thought. If you're not sweating, your pores

    won't become completely clean. Anyone? Anyone? Ideas/thoughts fer dee liddle lady?

    Those are my

    thoughts, BG, and I'm stikin wit'em! Hope I've kind of helped.
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    Mobley's

    answer/thought ... NOPE. NG, if you've been reading, you've run across mone build up. I AM NOT an expert. With

    that being said, this is a non expert's thought ... you know how women use make up, and at the end of the day, they

    wash their faces, and then use one of those pads to thoroughly clean the rest of the make up off? That's how mone

    build up works, I THINK. Showering won't cut it because of the oils, is my thought. If you're not sweating, your

    pores won't become completely clean. Anyone? Anyone? Ideas/thoughts fer dee liddle lady?
    I accept

    that buildup occurs because Jim Kohl and Bruce and some of the other long-timers and experts here say it occurs. But

    it is a very confusing thing to consider.

    On the one hand, some (or all) of the pheromones are converted by

    bacteria on the skin (maybe just Androstenone). On the other hand, washing with soap is SUPPOSED to remove most of

    them. And the rest eventually "burn off" through dissipation in the air.

    I have gone light and heavy, and

    skipped days. Maybe the buildup keeps me on a roll, maybe I just have game and dress well. Maybe I'm just lucky.



    Some days, I get no interest at all from women -- maybe I am not around them, maybe I am not feeling well. Maybe

    I'm just off.

    So, do what makes you feel comfortable, experiment a little, and don't worry. People seem to get

    all worked up over the little stuff. It's not like you have to get it all down inside a week.
    Last edited by Friendly1; 12-01-2004 at 08:39 AM.

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    Ok, tried using 1 spray of TE

    on my chest and 1 drop of SPMO on both wrists...seemed to get more attention and was more easily able to take charge

    of the group (mostly guys)...not certain if it is the result of the pheromones...will keep experimenting with the

    dosage of TE in respect to the SPMO.

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    I have a question about

    application amounts... which is larger a dab or a spray and what is the equivalents of one to make the other (ie how

    many dabs = a spray or vversa). Also is a tab just putting finertip over mouth of bottle and flipping it once then

    spreading what comes out on you or is it putting a cloth or something like that over the mouth and then spreading

    what comes out on the cloth on you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiberius
    I have a

    question about application amounts... which is larger a dab or a spray and what is the equivalents of one to make

    the other (ie how many dabs = a spray or vversa). Also is a tab just putting finertip over mouth of bottle and

    flipping it once then spreading what comes out on you or is it putting a cloth or something like that over the mouth

    and then spreading what comes out on the cloth on you?
    I would think that's what a dab is. Logically a

    spray is much more than what a dab will give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendly1
    I accept

    that buildup occurs because Jim Kohl and Bruce and some of the other long-timers and experts here say it occurs. But

    it is a very confusing thing to consider.

    On the one hand, some (or all) of the pheromones are converted by

    bacteria on the skin (maybe just Androstenone). On the other hand, washing with soap is SUPPOSED to remove most of

    them. And the rest eventually "burn off" through dissipation in the air.
    I'm still not sure what friendly

    and mobley mean. A few questions here.
    - showering with soap can only wash out some of the mones, not all?
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    sweating can get rid of all the mones?
    - if I apply again after the shower, there will be an od?
    - if there is an

    od, I will look aggressive instead of getting well-liked>

    Is it 'yes' to all the above questions?

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    Newbie....your skin is composed of a

    lot of layers. Furthermore, it is porous, so stuff can penetrate to the lower levels. This is why buildup occurs.

    Buildup mostly effects guys using a lot of none on a frequent basis that have small windows of none levels that they

    can handle.

    I doubt you will experience any of the negative buildup issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    I'm still not

    sure what friendly and mobley mean. A few questions here.
    - showering with soap can only wash out some of the

    mones, not all?
    - sweating can get rid of all the mones?
    - if I apply again after the shower, there will be an

    od?
    - if there is an od, I will look aggressive instead of getting well-liked>

    Is it 'yes' to all the above

    questions?
    What Friendly & BJF said. As to your question ... Mobley's answer ... without any

    scientific background, speaking of meself ... yes, """I think""" tis all possible.
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiberius
    I

    have a question about application amounts... which is larger a dab or a spray and what is the equivalents of one to

    make the other (ie how many dabs = a spray or vversa). Also is a tab just putting finertip over mouth of bottle and

    flipping it once then spreading what comes out on you or is it putting a cloth or something like that over the mouth

    and then spreading what comes out on the cloth on you?
    A dab is done with a bare fingertip,

    preferably after washing your hands so as not to contaminate the source. Using a cloth to dab would be a waste of

    mones as the cloth would absorb a lot of liquid. I guess if you did it that way, you could carry the cloth in a

    pocket or something afterwards, similar to Cassanova and his handkerchief. (I think that's who would wipe his

    privates with a handkerchief and would carry it around to influence the women.)

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    New result...I think I may be

    getting close to a good mix for myself using these 2 products. Today I used a total of 4 drops of SPMO (1 on each

    forearm and wrist) and a total of 2 dabs of TE, 1 smeared on each side of my lower neck (around the collar line).

    Seemed to get a lot of attention today while at work and from my fiance. I had some meetings today and had

    absolutely no problem taking center stage and giving good presentations (standing relatively close to audience

    1-3meters away). The SO seemed a lot more touchy/feely today than normal.

    The experiment goes continues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiberius
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    result...I think I may be getting close to a good mix for myself using these 2 products. Today I used a total of 4

    drops of SPMO (1 on each forearm and wrist) and a total of 2 dabs of TE, 1 smeared on each side of my lower neck

    (around the collar line). Seemed to get a lot of attention today while at work and from my fiance. I had some

    meetings today and had absolutely no problem taking center stage and giving good presentations (standing relatively

    close to audience 1-3meters away). The SO seemed a lot more touchy/feely today than normal.

    The experiment goes

    continues...
    Let me try your formula. A very important officer will come to visit this week. I'll be

    meeting with him. This is a career related meeting - very important. Too bad I haven't got my EW and AE shipment

    yet or do you think AE will do a better job - maybe 4 drops of SPMO and 2 dabs of AE? Comments are appreciated

    !!!

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    I couldnt give you any advice

    on AE as I have only used it 1 time (fiancé loved the smell-a lot) and not experimented it with it at work on in

    more social situations.

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    Anybody tried it at social

    functions or at work?

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