What mones work the best for certain races?

[platinumfox]

Now that I have Chick-ara most of my hits come from Hispanic women.Do you attract different races with

Chick-ara or just one race.This doesnt have to be for just Chikara any mone that you use.I know it has seven

phermones in it but find it weird that Im just attracting one race but IM NOT COMPLAINING LOL!

[belgareth]

That's interesting! Even

though my preference is for hispanic or latin women, I mostly seem to attract northern european types while wearing

Chikara. Would you please tell us about your skin, hair and eye color? I am blond haired (well, grey now) and blue

eyed with very light skin.

[platinumfox]

That's

interesting! Even though my preference is for hispanic or latin women, I mostly seem to attract northern european

types while wearing Chikara. Would you please tell us about your skin, hair and eye color? I am blond haired (well,

grey now) and blue eyed with very light skin.

Im 31 black male.Hispanics and Asians are my favorites.I never

had a hit from an Asian woman while wearing Chikara just all Hispanic

[Gegogi]

I'm Asian and live on Oahu.

Asians are in the majority here. My personal experience is 'mones are less useful on Asian women than white or

black women. Asian women are attracted to me without 'mones, but mones don't seem to enhance it much. In fact, it

seems to frighten them. On the other hand, there are few black women here but they seem to seek me out when I'm

ODed on 'mones...

[StandingTall]

Platinumfox,

I'm like

you, I've gotten most of my hits from hispanic women. I've gotten one hit from an asian woman since I've been

wearing mones. She was a woman who would always be in the workout room in my apartment complex. Everytime I saw

her she would give me this scowl, and then continue working out. The last time I saw her she was working out and

she struck up a conversation. She told me that she was moving to North Carolina the next day but that she had to

talk to me finally because "she always wanted me to talk to her but I never did". I would have never known by the

way she scowled but it did teach me to at least try a conversation with every girl I meet. You never know I

guess.

[Watcher]

What does work on Asian women (im

white myself)

NPA and Attraction (dont ask why but they do NPA moreso - attraction for me personally yeilded

to many gay hits)

[Gegogi]

"What does work on Asian

women (im white myself)"

As I menioned above, 'mones don't seem to enhance your chances with Asian

women. In fact, they seem to drive them away. It's a stereotype, but since I'm Asian I'll say it, Asian women

tend to be sensitive to body odor. Most Asians don't need deodorant and often mistakenly assume other races neglect

showers due to their obvious perspiration odor.

The best thing is to be ultra clean, fashionable, avoid facial

hair, carry a thick wallet and make friends with Asian men (you'll meet more Asian women that way).

[bjf]

<<It's a stereotype, but since I'm

Asian I'll say it, Asian women tend to be sensitive to body odor. Most Asians don't need deodorant and often

mistakenly assume other races neglect showers due to their obvious perspiration odor.>>

A scientific fact

actually, with regard to acropine sweat glands, or something. Someone smarter can elaborate.

As for avoiding

facial hair, this sort of has to do with this, as acropne sweat glands are in areas of hair, hair broadcasts

pheromones and helps smelly pheromone converions.

Another thing: Gegogi, have you tried wagg? I've had

success with asian women with that. Some other people have told me of the same. Also, V-5 was another product that

might work well with asians.

[platinumfox]

<<It's a

stereotype, but since I'm Asian I'll say it, Asian women tend to be sensitive to body odor. Most Asians don't

need deodorant and often mistakenly assume other races neglect showers due to their obvious perspiration

odor.>>

A scientific fact actually, with regard to acropine sweat glands, or something. Someone smarter can

elaborate.

As for avoiding facial hair, this sort of has to do with this, as acropne sweat glands are in

areas of hair, hair broadcasts pheromones and helps smelly pheromone converions.

Another thing: Gegogi, have

you tried wagg? I've had success with asian women with that. Some other people have told me of the same. Also,

V-5 was another product that might work well with asians.

Could you please tell me how much success using

WAGG on a scale of 1 to 10.10 being best."Old Realm" was my ace in picking up Asian women but Im tapped out.I havent

tried WAGG yet.

[bjf]

Could you please

tell me how much success using WAGG on a scale of 1 to 10.10 being best."Old Realm" was my ace in picking up Asian

women but Im tapped out.I havent tried WAGG yet.

I couldn't make a good judgement because I don't

use it often since getting chikara. I prefer that to "comfort" my npa, as it takes out the scare equally well, but

also does some other things.

However, it is a different product, and I still think wagg is better for asian

women targets. Since I am not too into asian women, I don't wear wagg too much. But I think it works well with

asian women, maybe with small amounts of none, based on what I've seen and heard.

It'd probably be best

if guys going after asian women with wagg chimed in.

[Gegogi]

WAGG? It's one of the few

products I haven't tried yet. Actually--and I have to pinch my self--I'm about as busy as I can possibily be with

Asian females, so a test drive of WAGG will wait until my next "dry" period. Once an Asian woman is comfortable with

you, even an OD of NPA won't keep her off you.

[lilstitch]

WAGG?

It's one of the few products I haven't tried yet. Actually--and I have to pinch my self--I'm about as busy as I

can possibily be with Asian females, so a test drive of WAGG will wait until my next "dry" period. Once an Asian

woman is comfortable with you, even an OD of NPA won't keep her off you.

Gegogi. Aloha braddah. What

part of O'ahu are you from? My fam that still lives in the islands are centered around Lahaina Town on Maui. Great

place 2 live, and excellent surf. Though still not as good as pipe, I've also got some friends that are from

Haleiwa. Surf's up bra.

[Watcher]

Oh yeah i forgot about wagg - NPA

is also a "clean" smelling Anone product and that is probably why it is effective at least for me - i got sexually

involved with one asian girl a few years ago while using NPA - she was only visiting from overseas met her at a

singles bar not far from here backpacker hotel she was in town for a few weeks seeing the sights and she got some

good ol australian lovin on the side.

[MOBLEYC57]

PFOX & STANDINGTALL, are you

using the recommended dosages (2 sprays), and is it the new Chika or the old Chika?

Thanks!

[StandingTall]

Mobley,

I wasn't

using Chikara at the time, I was using The Edge. I use Chikara now but the area I live in doesn't have many asians

to experiment on

[platinumfox]

PFOX &

STANDINGTALL, are you using the recommended dosages (2 sprays), and is it the new Chika or the old Chika?



Thanks!

Yeah two or three on the neck.

[Newbie gal]

What works best to attract

white North American men?

[Silver]

One reason that asian women might

seem to be put off by -none is the body odor factor, yes. Once again, like gegogi, I can say this because I'm

asian lol. I think asians as a race just don't sweat as much, or rather just don't produce as much body odor. I

personally almost never produce BO. I'll work out or go running and I'll sweat, but I almost never smell. Maybe

if I didn't shower for like 4 days and worked out all the time, I would. As it is, I don't really use deodorant

because it doesn't make much of a difference...all it does is get my clothes white >.<

I find that I'm pretty

sensitive to BO on guys. However, this doesn't mean it's all about the clean, fresh scents. I love slightly

musky, spicy, warm scents on a guy, especially with woody notes like sandlewood mixed in. While I do like the fresh

scents, I find the warm sensuous ones more attractive. That having been said, muskiness to the point of BO is

something that I am quite sensitive to.

Hope this helps in nabbing the asian chicas
~Silver

[MadMaxx]

[QUOTE=Silver]One

reason that asian women might seem to be put off by -none is the body odor factor, yes. Once again, like gegogi, I

can say this because I'm asian lol. I think asians as a race just don't sweat as much, or rather just don't

produce as much body odor. I personally almost never produce BO. I'll work out or go running and I'll sweat, but

I almost never smell. Maybe if I didn't shower for like 4 days and worked out all the time, I would. As it is, I

don't really use deodorant because it doesn't make much of a difference...all it does is get my clothes white

>.<

I just want to give you my thoughts, as a white guy that has lived in Asia for half my life. Anyone on

this forum who knows much at all about this whole topic knows about the racial differences when it comes to

pheromone production, but you could be doing yourself a disservice if you go through life insisting that "Asians

don't smell/stink." I find that half or more of the Asian men who surround me, "stink." Now, they stink in a

different way than a white man stinks, but they DO stink. They just "think" they don't stink. Similarily, probably

a lot of white men "think" they don't stink. It is hard to describe how they smell, if you are not familar with it,

but I will try. It is distinctively different from the acrid, sour, sharp sweat smell of a white guy. The best I can

do is to say that it is kind of an oily, hormonal smell. I reminds me of the smell of my jeans and or my bedsheets

if I don't wash them for several weeks.

I am not alone in noticing this either. I have had several Asian

women tell me that they think a lot of the guys of their same race smell horrible these days. What the conclusion to

all this is, I am not sure. One possibility is that groups of people are desensitized to the typical smell of their

own group; thus, the Asian insistence that they do not stink, when in reality, they do, to the point of being

offensive to me.

While I am at it, I might as well talk about Asian women. I am in very close contact with

heaps of them on a daily basis, either because of work or because of the 10 hours of dance lessons I do with them

every week. MANY Asian women smell absolutely clean and delicious, but "most", definitely no. Some smell oily and

strange like the men described above, some reek like B.O, and some smell like aging, deteriorating

women.

Let's face it, humans stink; some more than others, some just in a different way.

[Have_Courage]

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[MadMaxx]

@MadMaxx
Do you work with teenagers (Asian)? I visited some schools in Malaysia and

happen to smell those young men in a hall. They do smell especially after a workout. Men over 24 yo seem to have

less of this problem. Could it be a hormonal thing (part of growing up)? I also tend to believe different races in

Asia have different B.O. mainly due to differences in diet. Not being racist here, some comments from the locals in

Asia I hear regarding smell of different races.

Some male Indians exhibits stronger B.O. while some male

Caucasians smell of dairy products (beef, cheese etc). Also, dogs seem to sense Indians coming on the road from 20m

away (not in sight) and starts barking. When they're in sight of the dogs, the mutts just go crazy and chase them

for another 20m. These guys face it daily and come prepared on bikes.

Other races will smell a tint of the

smelly fruit (durians) if they consume it. Hell, I smell it on myself too, it even goes in the piss.

Point

is our diet does affect the signature we project. It shouldn't be a problem if the population at large consume the

same diet as we are. Maybe one day, -mones will come in tablets/capsules (consumed orally) and calibrated for

extended/timely release.

Yes, I am around a lot of teenagers; they, and college age guys are

clearly the worst, but the problem persists into the thirties. It is basically the same smell, just not as intense.

Wow, I feel sorry for the Indian guys you know; imagine not being able to walk down the street because dogs want to

either eat you are just drive you away.

Diet is no doubt a factor for many people. My favorite when it comes

to that subject is the fact that even the smell and taste of semen is affected by diet. Their used to be a woman on

the forum who claimed that from the taste of a guy's semen she could tell you whether he was vegetarian, a drinker,

or a smoker. She could also tell you what he had for dinner the night before! She know whether he had eaten Mexican

food or Thai food! I went on a really "clean" diet once and drank lots of powerful mint tea. My semen took on a

minty aroma and I was told it tasted fresh and minty. Too cool!

[Have_Courage]

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[Snoopy]

[QUOTE=MadMaxx]

One

reason that asian women might seem to be put off by -none is the body odor factor, yes. Once again, like gegogi, I

can say this because I'm asian lol. I think asians as a race just don't sweat as much, or rather just don't

produce as much body odor. I personally almost never produce BO. I'll work out or go running and I'll sweat, but I

almost never smell. Maybe if I didn't shower for like 4 days and worked out all the time, I would. As it is, I

don't really use deodorant because it doesn't make much of a difference...all it does is get my clothes white

>.<

I just want to give you my thoughts, as a white guy that has lived in Asia for half my life. Anyone on this

forum who knows much at all about this whole topic knows about the racial differences when it comes to pheromone

production, but you could be doing yourself a disservice if you go through life insisting that "Asians don't

smell/stink." I find that half or more of the Asian men who surround me, "stink." Now, they stink in a different way

than a white man stinks, but they DO stink. They just "think" they don't stink. Similarily, probably a lot of white

men "think" they don't stink. It is hard to describe how they smell, if you are not familar with it, but I will

try. It is distinctively different from the acrid, sour, sharp sweat smell of a white guy. The best I can do is to

say that it is kind of an oily, hormonal smell. I reminds me of the smell of my jeans and or my bedsheets if I

don't wash them for several weeks.

I am not alone in noticing this either. I have had several Asian women tell

me that they think a lot of the guys of their same race smell horrible these days. What the conclusion to all this

is, I am not sure. One possibility is that groups of people are desensitized to the typical smell of their own

group; thus, the Asian insistence that they do not stink, when in reality, they do, to the point of being offensive

to me.

While I am at it, I might as well talk about Asian women. I am in very close contact with heaps of them

on a daily basis, either because of work or because of the 10 hours of dance lessons I do with them every week. MANY

Asian women smell absolutely clean and delicious, but "most", definitely no. Some smell oily and strange like the

men described above, some reek like B.O, and some smell like aging, deteriorating women.

Let's face it, humans

stink; some more than others, some just in a different way.

While I've never experienced the real stink

of an asian girl, some of my guy friends (the ones who don't seem to care too much of their appearance) definately

smell like sour oil, kinda like Burger King (oh that sounds so bad.. sorry for ruining anyones appetite).

[MadMaxx]

While I've never

experienced the real stink of an asian girl, some of my guy friends (the ones who don't seem to care too much of

their appearance) definately smell like sour oil, kinda like Burger King (oh that sounds so bad.. sorry for ruining

anyones appetite).

Well, I'm glad someone else noticed the "oil" component. You also mentioned

something that reminded me of something that I neglected to mention. The problem could be partially related to

personal hygiene. I have reason to believe that some of these people do not enjoy bathing or showering on a daily

basis(because the "think" they don't stink), particularily young men( I have actually been told this). Also, I

think they do not wash their clothes as often as they should.

[Newbie gal]

What do you consider to be

warm and sensuous smell?

[bjf]

Asians have less acropine glands

which let out the smelly mones as well as different bacteria cultures which basically determine

smell.

Basically, asians just let out less mones and they are therefore more concious of their smells (less

de-sensitized or nose fatigued or whatever).

[Newbie gal]

bjf, what's your background?

How come you know so much?

[Friendly1]

When I wear a strong

Androstenone mixture, Asian women crawl all over me (I mean, LITERALLY). I have reported this before. I am part

Hispanic, part Anglo. I think the strong Androstenone mixtures help guys with women not in their ethnic group.



FRIENDLY1's UNIVERSAL PHEROMONE HYPOTHESIS

There must be some sort of ethnic group signature bandwidth (for

lack of a better description). That is, all the men in a particular ethnic group probably have similar pheromone

scents (common ancestry) within a certain range of parameters I am not qualified to define.

If a man alters his

signature so that he stands out from his own ethnic group, he may be more interesting to women from other ethnic

groups simply because he is so different. Biologically, different is good (it complements the woman's body

chemistry and DNA, thus -- hopefully -- enhancing the benefits of reproducing with someone outside the woman's

ethnic group).

The appeal of different ethnic groups is evident in frequent male fascination with "exotic"

(foreign, strange, ethnically different) women.

Within the white, Anglo, Caucasian community, there are many

ethnic sub-groups (usually most easily denoted by differences in height, skin tones, and hair coloring). These

sub-groups have intermarried so much through the past few centuries that there may be a super-ethnic signature band

for pheromones.

Now, women (and men) are probably naturally disposed to react well toward pheromones within

their native ethnic bandwidth (similarity assures compatibility of DNA, body chemistry while allowing for some of

the benefits of biological dis-similarity).

So, let's say there is a Weak Pheromone Factor which determines how

much appeal we have to members of the opposite sex within our own ethnic group and a Strong Pheromone Factor which

determines how much appeal we have to members of the opposite sex outside our ethnic group.

The Weak Pheromone

Factor doesn't need to scream so much because there are benefits to marrying within one's ethnic group. Hence, the

pheromonal signatures within the group will be similar and distinctions between them need not be significant.



The Strong Pheromone Factor needs to scream so that members of different ethnic groups will be pre-disposed NOT to

intermarry. That is, biologically, we may be prone to fix successful traits within our bloodlines because successful

traits help assure the survival of future generations. We may look outside the local group if compatible but

substantively different potential mates become rare (too much inbreeding) or if an exceptional potential mate from

another region suddenly appears.

Increasing one's pheromone output would thus increase one's exceptionality.

That is, the negative effect of being outside a woman's native pheromonal bandwidth is more than offset by the

positive effect of generating strong pheromones. Her body chemistry may react to the heightened pheromone output

with an alert: "UNUSUALLY, EXCEPTIONALLY SUCCESSFUL MALE APPROACHES!"

A man's reaction to a woman from another

ethnic group may be based on something else, though. Men, after all, seem to be predisposed toward seeking more

mates than women. So, for a man, variation is good. It helps ensure the survival of at least SOME of his offspring

if he sows his seed in different valleys, so to speak.

So, that may explain why ovulating women are more

attractive to men. Their pheromones are declaring their fertility. A woman who enhances her pheromone signature may

be screaming "I AM FERTILE. IMPREGNATE ME!" I don't know, never having knowingly experienced a woman wearing

supplemental pheromones.

[Newbie gal]

Amazing theory !

[Newbie gal]

Amazing theory !