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    Quote Originally Posted by j5fakt0r
    but what should

    an asian guy like me use to get some attraction from young (18-25) asian girls? I'm thinking goin with 2 sprays of

    Chikara and a single drop (maybe half drop) of PI. (i haven't bought into anything as of yet).
    This

    question gets asked a lot. The best answer is that you have to experiment. Of course, that gets expensive.

    So,

    I'll suggest an alternative approach. Try searching the archive discussions for hit reports from Asian guys who

    report success with Asian girls.

    Gegogi is one example of someone who is currently in that group.

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    Belgareth, what's the mix

    ratio of EW and AE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    Belgareth,

    what's the mix ratio of EW and AE?
    Sorry but I don't really know. Correct dosage of mones varies from

    one user to the next based on your own natural signature and possibly your personality type. Your best bet is to

    start with a little for a few days and see what happens. If you don't see any reactions increase the dose. Once you

    find the optimum for one product switch to another and do the same thing. It may be slow and tedious but it will

    give you a good understanding of what products work for you in what amounts. Then you can start playing with mixes

    based on that knowledge. If you try mixing from the begining it will be a lot harder to get it right.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    I'm asian and have attracted

    asian girls (17-20) using 3-6 sprays beta Chikara (note the sprays are smaller than the weak/new batch) and 6-10

    dabs of TE gel. This combination seems to get lots of friendliness, I don't recall ever having a major sexual hit

    with this combo however. I'm beginning to experiment with Pheros and Perception, 2 dabs Pheros and 1 spray

    Perception cover. I've only tried it twice, but today in class, an asian girl friend of mine wouldn't stop

    giggling around me. The effects of this as combination works well on myself as well, making me seem more calm. I

    love the smell of Pheros too. Both times I've worn Pheros, it's made me unusually arroused - it must be the traces

    of copulins present in the formula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    What would

    an Asian girl wear to attract a fair skin blonde guy?
    How old are you Newbie Gal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    What would an Asian

    girl wear to attract a fair skin blonde guy?
    Implants!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DCW
    Implants!!


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    I don't need them !!!

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    Hello everyone.
    I have a question.
    Never been a mone user. But stumbled across this site looking

    for workout supplements. Read some interesting things about pheromones that I did not know.

    Moderately

    successful with women, not afraid to strike up conversations.

    I am an african american male... and I was

    wondering what product anyone could recommend that could give me

    A. all around edge with all different races

    of women

    B. more of an edge with caucasian, latino and black women.

    I saw the posts about asian women and

    I am going to look into those on this site.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nichirenx
    Hello

    everyone. I have a question. Never been a mone user. But stumbled across this site looking for workout supplements.

    Read some interesting things about pheromones that I did not know.
    Welcome, I'm pretty new here too. I

    had my first order a few weeks ago and I got the TGIF order yesterday.

    Check out this site:



    http://love-scent.com/reference/

    Good luck !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    too funny - but what pheromones?

    Now that I just ordered the TGIF AE and EW, with TE/w

    and SPMO, SOE gel, I guess I could mix something to attract a 40ish fair skin blonde guy.

    What's most

    effective mix? Help, Friendly !!
    I am a white blonde male living amidst millions of Asians. I would

    be closest to Belgareth in my advice. I would say you would be best off smelling almost like "nothing." Basically,

    you want to smell very clean and fresh, with possibly just a hint of some sort of natural delicious, pure smell,

    if that makes any sense. I assume you are really into this guy that you want to attract. If that is the case, this

    is the way to go. I am personally revolted by women who have some sort of strange skanky, hormonal odor and/or

    perfumey smell about them. That signature may work sometimes, but only if the guy is really horny. If you want the

    guy to be thinking long-term, I recommend "fresh." You aren't going to like my advice, but I am essentially saying

    that you probably don't want to use any of the products that you listed, with the exception of one; that being EW.

    Assuming that you can achieve the "clean" smell, add a tiny amount of EW with a small amount of perfume that works

    with your body, rather than against it. I am always amazed at how many women wear perfume that absolutely stinks and

    makes them smell like a rotting middle-aged woman who is trying to cover up her bad smell. Anyway, my EW advice may

    or not be good, since I do not know how I would react to it on you. I have only tested in on myself, and I am male

    and white. If I put the right amount of EW with the right amount of the right perfume on my arm, I instantly want to

    either hump it or eat it(my arm.)

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    I'm a 19 yo asian and I find

    that most of my attractive female asian friends "smell like nothnig" at first, but when you go for a hug or close

    contact, they have a delightful light "fresh" scent. This type I am attracted to, and if they leave a sweater or

    something at my place, it will have that nice light fresh smell.

    I personally don't prefer girls I can smell

    from the public distance (> 18 inches), rather, I enjoy it when I have to work to get closer to have that enjoyable

    scent.

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    thank you kindly

    for the reference Newbie gal.

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    [QUOTE=Silver]One

    reason that asian women might seem to be put off by -none is the body odor factor, yes. Once again, like gegogi, I

    can say this because I'm asian lol. I think asians as a race just don't sweat as much, or rather just don't

    produce as much body odor. I personally almost never produce BO. I'll work out or go running and I'll sweat, but

    I almost never smell. Maybe if I didn't shower for like 4 days and worked out all the time, I would. As it is, I

    don't really use deodorant because it doesn't make much of a difference...all it does is get my clothes white

    >.<

    I just want to give you my thoughts, as a white guy that has lived in Asia for half my life. Anyone on

    this forum who knows much at all about this whole topic knows about the racial differences when it comes to

    pheromone production, but you could be doing yourself a disservice if you go through life insisting that "Asians

    don't smell/stink." I find that half or more of the Asian men who surround me, "stink." Now, they stink in a

    different way than a white man stinks, but they DO stink. They just "think" they don't stink. Similarily, probably

    a lot of white men "think" they don't stink. It is hard to describe how they smell, if you are not familar with it,

    but I will try. It is distinctively different from the acrid, sour, sharp sweat smell of a white guy. The best I can

    do is to say that it is kind of an oily, hormonal smell. I reminds me of the smell of my jeans and or my bedsheets

    if I don't wash them for several weeks.

    I am not alone in noticing this either. I have had several Asian

    women tell me that they think a lot of the guys of their same race smell horrible these days. What the conclusion to

    all this is, I am not sure. One possibility is that groups of people are desensitized to the typical smell of their

    own group; thus, the Asian insistence that they do not stink, when in reality, they do, to the point of being

    offensive to me.

    While I am at it, I might as well talk about Asian women. I am in very close contact with

    heaps of them on a daily basis, either because of work or because of the 10 hours of dance lessons I do with them

    every week. MANY Asian women smell absolutely clean and delicious, but "most", definitely no. Some smell oily and

    strange like the men described above, some reek like B.O, and some smell like aging, deteriorating

    women.

    Let's face it, humans stink; some more than others, some just in a different way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaxx
    You aren't

    going to like my advice, but I am essentially saying that you probably don't want to use any of the products that

    you listed, with the exception of one; that being EW.
    I'll just do that. I just picked up a bottle of

    Burberry cologne - very nice light scent. BTW, I'm hairless. I don't have BO.

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    [QUOTE=MadMaxx]
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver
    One

    reason that asian women might seem to be put off by -none is the body odor factor, yes. Once again, like gegogi, I

    can say this because I'm asian lol. I think asians as a race just don't sweat as much, or rather just don't

    produce as much body odor. I personally almost never produce BO. I'll work out or go running and I'll sweat, but I

    almost never smell. Maybe if I didn't shower for like 4 days and worked out all the time, I would. As it is, I

    don't really use deodorant because it doesn't make much of a difference...all it does is get my clothes white

    >.<

    I just want to give you my thoughts, as a white guy that has lived in Asia for half my life. Anyone on this

    forum who knows much at all about this whole topic knows about the racial differences when it comes to pheromone

    production, but you could be doing yourself a disservice if you go through life insisting that "Asians don't

    smell/stink." I find that half or more of the Asian men who surround me, "stink." Now, they stink in a different way

    than a white man stinks, but they DO stink. They just "think" they don't stink. Similarily, probably a lot of white

    men "think" they don't stink. It is hard to describe how they smell, if you are not familar with it, but I will

    try. It is distinctively different from the acrid, sour, sharp sweat smell of a white guy. The best I can do is to

    say that it is kind of an oily, hormonal smell. I reminds me of the smell of my jeans and or my bedsheets if I

    don't wash them for several weeks.

    I am not alone in noticing this either. I have had several Asian women tell

    me that they think a lot of the guys of their same race smell horrible these days. What the conclusion to all this

    is, I am not sure. One possibility is that groups of people are desensitized to the typical smell of their own

    group; thus, the Asian insistence that they do not stink, when in reality, they do, to the point of being offensive

    to me.

    While I am at it, I might as well talk about Asian women. I am in very close contact with heaps of them

    on a daily basis, either because of work or because of the 10 hours of dance lessons I do with them every week. MANY

    Asian women smell absolutely clean and delicious, but "most", definitely no. Some smell oily and strange like the

    men described above, some reek like B.O, and some smell like aging, deteriorating women.

    Let's face it, humans

    stink; some more than others, some just in a different way.
    While I've never experienced the real stink

    of an asian girl, some of my guy friends (the ones who don't seem to care too much of their appearance) definately

    smell like sour oil, kinda like Burger King (oh that sounds so bad.. sorry for ruining anyones appetite).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy
    While I've never

    experienced the real stink of an asian girl, some of my guy friends (the ones who don't seem to care too much of

    their appearance) definately smell like sour oil, kinda like Burger King (oh that sounds so bad.. sorry for ruining

    anyones appetite).
    Well, I'm glad someone else noticed the "oil" component. You also mentioned

    something that reminded me of something that I neglected to mention. The problem could be partially related to

    personal hygiene. I have reason to believe that some of these people do not enjoy bathing or showering on a daily

    basis(because the "think" they don't stink), particularily young men( I have actually been told this). Also, I

    think they do not wash their clothes as often as they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    I'll just do

    that. I just picked up a bottle of Burberry cologne - very nice light scent. BTW, I'm hairless. I don't have

    BO.
    Well, I have no idea what Burberry smells like. Keep in mind that just because it is

    "light" it is not necessarily suitable for you. "Light" does not necessarily equal nice, harmless, or non-offensive.

    A light, dry perfume could smell as disgusting on darker skin, as a sweet, heavy perfume on fair(white) skin. The

    key is matching your personal signature! Generally, the darker you are, the heavier you go, and the lighter you are,

    they lighter you go. However, I suppose there are many factors involved. Basically, the Asian girls that I know that

    smell the most delicious, are wearing maybe a medium-weight, high-quality(expensive) perfume(and not overdone!). The

    ones who wear something light, flowery, and/or cheap smelling practically make me vomit. They disgust me at a

    distance of a few meters.

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    It's not that I can't identify

    the smell...I have definitely noticed when asian guys smell. It's different, yes. However, on average, I would

    still say that not only is the smell of asian guys different than caucasian males, it is also much lighter. And as

    for myself, I know that since I shower every day, sometimes but rarely every other day, that even if I work out once

    or twice between showers I won't smell. I can sweat ridiculously, but unless I don't shower for like 4 days I

    just don't smell. Guess I'm lucky like that.

    ~Silver

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    I noticed that when I don't

    wash my hair one day, the next day it smells oily. But I guess that goes for everybody and whenever i go

    to the gym to workout my ex-gf says I don't smell at all, even if i'm extra sweaty. She does have a rather

    sensitive nose as she can sometimes tell if i ate something that smells bad....

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    The diet and scent explanation

    is right on point.
    Two women I know who ate mainly fish, no red meats, drank lots of water and ate a whole lot of

    fruit
    had this natural 'fruity' smell even with no fragrance on.
    Amongst other aspects.

    I killed my

    processed sugar, baked goods and carbonated soda intake, cut back on red meat, drank more water, and ate mainly

    fresh foods for about two months.
    One sunday I went to work with only a water shower, and I got compliments on my

    smell all day.
    One to the effect of 'he dresses like a bum but smells like heaven.'

    Lots of things the

    posters here do regularly or know about I tried through messing around and found they work.

    *bows*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaxx
    Basically,

    the Asian girls that I know that smell the most delicious, are wearing maybe a medium-weight,

    high-quality(expensive) perfume(and not overdone!). The ones who wear something light, flowery, and/or cheap

    smelling practically make me vomit. They disgust me at a distance of a few meters.
    I got my small bottle

    of Burberry Brit (for women) at Sephora for $80. I love the scent. It's light but it's good. MadMaxx, not

    everything light will make you vomit. Don't generalize. I don't normally wear cologne, so I'll start

    with a light one and something that I really like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    I got my small

    bottle of Burberry Brit (for women) at Sephora for $80. I love the scent. It's light but it's good. MadMaxx,

    not everything light will make you vomit. Don't generalize. I don't normally wear cologne, so I'll

    start with a light one and something that I really like.
    "Generalizing" is the only way

    to discuss something such as the issues that come up on this board. Nobody said that "all" light perfumes were bad

    on dark skin and that "all" sweet perfumes were bad on dark skin, but it is a useful rule of thumb, and there is

    good reason for why it has been established as a rule of thumb. Anyone who is very knowledgeable about perfume

    and/or pheromones knows it. Did you notice that I said that "light" was NOT NECESSARILY a good thing? The perfume

    you picked may be great for you, and many light perfumes may be great for you. That does not in any way rule out the

    validity of what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaxx
    Did you

    notice that I said that "light" was NOT NECESSARILY a good thing? The perfume you picked may be great for you, and

    many light perfumes may be great for you.
    Yay, Burberry is great on me !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie gal
    Yay, Burberry is

    great on me !!!
    That's great. I hope it mixes well with EW for you. A lot of people

    have trouble with EW because in can smell pretty rank. I have found that for me it worked quite well with the Dolce

    and Gabanna in the zebra bottle. Please let me know if you drive any men crazy.

    Also, women users have

    commented that it can actually have quite the effect on themselves; things such as becoming weak-kneed, or

    submissive; submissive to the point that they just wanted someone to "do them;" her words, not mine. I believe it,

    because I used to use it, and I think I used too much, because many women that I danced with turned into rag-dolls

    and I practically had to hold them up. EW can be powerful stuff! Be careful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMaxx
    I am a white

    blonde male living amidst millions of Asians.
    I am an Asian living admist white blondes. I am living with

    one. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Have_Courage
    @MadMaxx
    Do you work with teenagers (Asian)? I visited some schools in Malaysia and

    happen to smell those young men in a hall. They do smell especially after a workout. Men over 24 yo seem to have

    less of this problem. Could it be a hormonal thing (part of growing up)? I also tend to believe different races in

    Asia have different B.O. mainly due to differences in diet. Not being racist here, some comments from the locals in

    Asia I hear regarding smell of different races.

    Some male Indians exhibits stronger B.O. while some male

    Caucasians smell of dairy products (beef, cheese etc). Also, dogs seem to sense Indians coming on the road from 20m

    away (not in sight) and starts barking. When they're in sight of the dogs, the mutts just go crazy and chase them

    for another 20m. These guys face it daily and come prepared on bikes.

    Other races will smell a tint of the

    smelly fruit (durians) if they consume it. Hell, I smell it on myself too, it even goes in the piss.

    Point

    is our diet does affect the signature we project. It shouldn't be a problem if the population at large consume the

    same diet as we are. Maybe one day, -mones will come in tablets/capsules (consumed orally) and calibrated for

    extended/timely release.
    Yes, I am around a lot of teenagers; they, and college age guys are

    clearly the worst, but the problem persists into the thirties. It is basically the same smell, just not as intense.

    Wow, I feel sorry for the Indian guys you know; imagine not being able to walk down the street because dogs want to

    either eat you are just drive you away.

    Diet is no doubt a factor for many people. My favorite when it comes

    to that subject is the fact that even the smell and taste of semen is affected by diet. Their used to be a woman on

    the forum who claimed that from the taste of a guy's semen she could tell you whether he was vegetarian, a drinker,

    or a smoker. She could also tell you what he had for dinner the night before! She know whether he had eaten Mexican

    food or Thai food! I went on a really "clean" diet once and drank lots of powerful mint tea. My semen took on a

    minty aroma and I was told it tasted fresh and minty. Too cool!

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    Welcome back MadMaxx!!!!!!! So did

    you stop using EW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nichirenx
    The diet and scent

    explanation is right on point.
    Two women I know who ate mainly fish, no red meats, drank lots of water and ate a

    whole lot of fruit
    had this natural 'fruity' smell even with no fragrance on.
    Amongst other aspects.



    I killed my processed sugar, baked goods and carbonated soda intake, cut back on red meat, drank more water,

    and ate mainly fresh foods for about two months.
    One sunday I went to work with only a water shower, and I got

    compliments on my smell all day.
    One to the effect of 'he dresses like a bum but smells like heaven.'



    Lots of things the posters here do regularly or know about I tried through messing around and found they work.



    *bows*
    Don't hold out on us! So what have you experimented with? Hot water showers and

    special diets?

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    im white caucasian male and in

    aussie land its very multicutlural we have a very wide spread of nationalities and racial groups

    Perception

    seems to be gettign a broad based hit response perhaps that is a good cheap staritng point.

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