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    Default My First Impression of Pheros

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    guys,

    I received my Pheros in the mail this morning and first of all:

    Dr SmellThis, if I had a hat, I

    would take it off for you.

    I cannot for the moment distinguish between the notes, since I just put it on (I

    have to wait until later for the drydown), but something in Pheros reminds me of some of the Amouage line, Dia maybe

    or Gold without the "stinkiness".

    Looking at the Amouage ingredients I would guess that you have ambergis in

    Pheros? I think I can smell a faint floral note also. (My nose is still in training...*LoL*).

    Since the

    bottle is an open top I will later on (as soon as I get my monthly wage...) get some pipettes (I am going to get

    them anyway with some other lab parts this month) and transfer a small amount to a smaller vial. I assume that

    openong the Pheros bottle "too often" will lead to oxidsation? I am also a little concerned with contamination of

    the stuff by my fingertip (so I washed my hands before touching the juice).

    DrSmellThis, can you confirm this

    or am I too "scared" of ruining the stuff?

    DST, could you perhaps give some info about the "flakes" that

    dissappears in the bottle when shaked? Is this from a resinoid you used?

    // Wiseman, the real

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    * Thanks

    for your review, wiseman! I'm glad you are enjoying it. Reactions like that definitely provide lots of satisfaction

    and make the hard work seem very worth it.

    * There is indeed a faint floral note as well as a more prominent

    ambergris note. There are definitely some commonalities with Amouage. Amouage has a high proportion of

    natural ingredients. Pheros is just as complex and has some of the same types of precious ingredients, but is

    a little less ornamental or more basic. Pheros is more "primitive" smelling or animalic. Pheros is

    also designed to be an attractant and body enhancement product, whereas Amouage is all about it's flawless

    smell.

    * One mark of a "classical" style of perfume is an inability to distinguish individual ingredients at

    first smell, and Pheros is sort of that way. The idea with a classical perfume is to have an identity

    above and beyond the individual ingredients, which become subsumed and transformed into their roles.

    * I would

    just open the bottle when you need to. You don't want to leave it open. Washing hands before use is a good idea, as

    is transferring a small amount to another container for daily use.

    * The "flakes" or darker stuff floating

    around before you shake it is a combination of sweet resins (e.g., vanilla) and organic plant matter (e.g., fresh

    valerian root).

    * Interestingly, if you carry around a small amount in your pocket in a separate

    container
    "the juice" become "homogenized" (thanks for the term, Oscar) eventually, mixing more thoroughly and

    clearing in color. The smell might even be helped a bit by doing this (by having the sweet resins be more blended,

    creating a sweeter smell), though I'm not sure I'd want to do that with your whole supply, as I don't know what

    the body heat does to "shelf life." I do recommend it for small quantities, though. I have a large bottle I'm

    carrying around in my pocket to test it, and I'll let you all know if I can conclude anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
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    Interestingly, if you carry around a small amount in your pocket in a separate container "the juice"

    become "homogenized" (thanks for the term, Oscar) eventually, mixing more thoroughly and clearing in

    color.
    My small "pocket vial" didn't become more homogenized. In fact, it separated. I had a transparent

    yellowish liquid predominate with droplets of darker, amber/brown clinging to the sides of the dram vial the working

    supply has been kept in. Mine was from the first "signature" batch. Fresh from the supply bottle, it has a creamy

    color not unlike tea with creamer added.
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    It's maybe a mixture of

    processes. My experience is that a small amount of residue remains (stuff normally filtered out by perfume

    companies), but that mostly the mixture clears and is more thoroughly blended. I could be confused, of course. It's

    still a little mysterious to me. Does anyone else have experience with this phenomenon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    It's maybe a

    mixture of processes. My experience is that a small amount of residue remains (stuff normally filtered out by

    perfume companies), but that mostly the mixture clears and is more thoroughly blended. I could be confused, of

    course. It's still a little mysterious to me. Does anyone else have experience with this phenomenon?
    I made

    some 1 Pheros : 1 Bassmix in a dram vial. The mix was mostly clear, with some oily residue around the sides of the

    bottle. It stayed pretty much that way for months.

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    Doc, did the one dab of Pheros

    split behind each ear, covered by a spray of Chikara (2 total) over each application. When me honey got in the car

    she said, "It's smelling good up in here!," but before the end of the night she asked me had I started back smoking

    because she smelled tobacco. Any thoughts/ideas/explanations?

    Thankya!
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    Were you in a smoky bar? There

    is tobacco EO in Pheros, but it doesn't smell like smoke (it's choclatey smooth). It could have been

    conversion/buildup issues? Backs of ears have lots of bacteria. Perhaps -nol conversion? I often do a thin layer of

    sandalwood before applying anything to try to control it. You might also have put too much on for your body type.

    1/2 dab is the max per point for me. You can use the same amount but spread it out on more points by using multiple

    fingers as I've discussed in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Were you in a

    smoky bar? There is tobacco EO in Pheros, but it doesn't smell like smoke (it's choclatey smooth). It could

    have been conversion/buildup issues? Backs of ears have lots of bacteria. Perhaps -nol conversion? I often do a thin

    layer of sandalwood before applying anything to try to control it. You might also have put too much on for your body

    type. 1/2 dab is the max per point for me. You can use the same amount but spread it out on more points by using

    multiple fingers as I've discussed in the past.
    Nope, no smokey bar. She didn't say she smelled

    smoke, but tobacco. The tobacco EO explains it. A bloodhound's nose, I'd say!

    One dab is too much to split

    behind both ears? Geez weez!
    Thanks, Doc!
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    Default Tobacco

    There is a good bit of

    blond tobacco in there -- another precious, very expensive oil. Tobacco EO definitely has some luscious manly alpha

    qualities to it, though it also figures in many great florals. I had forgotten I put it in there, so thanks for

    reminding me! Anyone who gets a chance to smell it should -- it's quite decadent smelling.

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    Out of curiousity, how long

    does the Pheros scent last for people who use a typical dose of around 2-4 dabs?

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    It lasts for hours and hours,

    depending on circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Were you in a

    smoky bar? There is tobacco EO in Pheros, but it doesn't smell like smoke (it's choclatey smooth). It could

    have been conversion/buildup issues? Backs of ears have lots of bacteria. Perhaps -nol conversion? I often do a thin

    layer of sandalwood before applying anything to try to control it. You might also have put too much on for your body

    type. 1/2 dab is the max per point for me. You can use the same amount but spread it out on more points by using

    multiple fingers as I've discussed in the past.
    That's it! Yes, that's probably what I have been

    detecting. I've observed this when I apply Pheros to the armpits. It is more prominent probably because of the

    added heat and perhaps chemistry of my sweat. I called it ash-like and woody in a previous post, but now that you

    have identified it as Tobacco EO, I think that's what it is. What I detected also was that it had a slight and

    pleasant "bitter" undertone as well that I don't detect when it's applied on the chest. Hmmm... not unlike

    smelling a nice oily Cuban cigar, but not so obvious. Nice one DST!

    nitro

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    It's sort of like a very

    sweet and rich raw, fresh pipe tobacco. It doesn't dominate the smell but just adds a dimension.
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