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    I confess that I

    didnt run this through a search first. But I dont think this has been explored.

    Other than one-on-one

    training, what would you guys recommend for voice training? I hear over and over that a deep sexy voice is

    extremely powerful and I want to train myself for this. I have read some Ebooks on it, but its hard to follow when

    you cant hear what they are talking about.

    Is Vocal Coach something you guys recommend for this? I think its

    more for singing, but they mention that its for speakers too. Thanks.
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    If you learn to speak how a

    good singer would sing I'd think it would help. I'm taking vocal lessons and have noticed a difference when I use

    good technique. It's mostly breathing from down low and relaxing your throat. I think 4 lessons from any decent

    coach and a month of practice would mke a difference. You can just ask local singers who to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeStudent
    I confess

    that I didnt run this through a search first. But I dont think this has been explored.
    That's a shame

    because there was a good conversation about it several weeks ago.
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    Thx Pancho, I was part of

    that discussion. But no mention of any online lessons or CD that you could buy, only one-on-one. I wanted any

    recommendations on online stuff, like Voice Coach.
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    I was just posting what Bel

    was talking about. There was another thread speaking about voice training, but it didn't seem relevant. It just

    talked about warming up your voice and making it deeper or something.

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    College Student,

    The issue here

    is not that a search would or would not have provided you with the answer that you seek. The issue is that if you

    HAD done a search you would have found an appropriate thread in which to post your question rather than begin a

    thread which is redundant and only tangentially appropriate to the forum in which it's posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeStudent
    Is Vocal Coach something you guys recommend for this?
    Yes. For singing and speaking.
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    Someone did recommend online

    resources in the previous discusssion, including CD's, because I remember checking them out.
    Last edited by DrSmellThis; 10-04-2004 at 02:11 PM.
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    *cowers in the corner*
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    I found the following book

    helpful:

    The Fine Art of Erotic Talk
    ISBN 0-553-37396

    Not only wording, but exercise that help you train

    your voice.

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    Some women prefer a tenor voice,

    so a deep bass voice ain't the cats meow. In some African cultures a high voice--soprano range--is considered way

    macho.
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    My range is exactly the same

    as Johnny Cash's, so I guess I'd be SOL in Africa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nrector
    I found the

    following book helpful:

    The Fine Art of Erotic Talk
    ISBN 0-553-37396

    Not only wording, but

    exercise that help you train your voice.
    Thx Ill check that out.
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    non verbal sexual cuing also has

    some voice training. i'm not sure how good it is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    non verbal sexual

    cuing also has some voice training. i'm not sure how good it is though.
    NVCS is good enough to remind you

    how to approach your voice -- if -- (a) you've already spent a fair amount of time behind a dj mic (b) you've had

    a fair bit of voice coaching, or (c) you've been fortunate enough to have a sexy voice that you've not spent time

    learning how to use.

    If none of these apply, NVSC MIGHT convince you to go take a few lessons...

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    sounds stupid but how do i figure

    if i have a sexy voice? my voice is kinda deep with a stuffy nose sound. i asked a few people and they said my voice

    is neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    sounds stupid but how

    do i figure if i have a sexy voice? my voice is kinda deep with a stuffy nose sound. i asked a few people and they

    said my voice is neutral.
    It's not so much the voice itself as how you use it.
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    I haven't tried this, but I've

    heard about it.

    http://www.altfeld.com/mastery/products/voicetapes.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassMan
    NVCS is good enough

    to remind you how to approach your voice -- if -- (a) you've already spent a fair amount of time behind a dj mic

    (b) you've had a fair bit of voice coaching, or (c) you've been fortunate enough to have a sexy voice that you've

    not spent time learning how to use.

    If none of these apply, NVSC MIGHT convince you to go take a few

    lessons...

    -Bass
    I should probably clarify this - I'd been into the Merlot when I wrote it.

    NVSC has

    a pretty good description of why you would want to work on your voice, and a bunch of exercises. Its biggest problem

    is that if you just bought the ebook, you don't have anything to compare yourself to. I personally don't think it

    would have been enough to get me past the horror of hearing myself on tape for the first time :-)

    I found it

    very useful in reminding me of things to pay attention to, but I've had speech therapy, voice lessons, and have

    spent hours listening to myself through headphones both speaking (I do voice-overs) and singing.

    That all said,

    the recorded course might be better - but I just bought the ebook, then scammed the text into a voice synthesizer so

    I could record it and listen to it in my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassMan
    That all said, the

    recorded course might be better - but I just bought the ebook, then scammed the text into a voice synthesizer so I

    could record it and listen to it in my car.
    is that program free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    is that program

    free?
    For the voice synth, I used TextAloud MP3 from nextup.com. It's shareware.

    It's non-trivial to

    get the text out of the protected e-book, tho.

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    I managed to find an unsecured

    PDF of NVSC.. Granted, it looks like it was printed out of IE to PDF, but that doesn't really matter if all you're

    doing is dumping it to a speech synth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by camusflage
    I managed to

    find an unsecured PDF of NVSC.. Granted, it looks like it was printed out of IE to PDF, but that doesn't really

    matter if all you're doing is dumping it to a speech synth.
    Yup. I printed it to a pdf then saved the pdf in

    rtf format and opened it in Word. What a pain. The format was a mess but it worked ok for the synth.

    I've

    listened to about the first third of it. Interesting book. Mostly stuff I'd already sort of figured out - the

    voice, the half smile (he calls it walking smile), the eye contact stuff. But it was worth the $40 to have it all

    together in one place to remind me.
    somewhere between amused and obsessed...

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    Here's a bit of

    synchronicity, or as Deepak Chopra might say, "SynchroDestiny." As I have mentioned here several times, I have

    bought several Nightingale-Conant courses and have recommended the company to others. One thing I like about them is

    once you're an established customer, they offer select courses on a free trial basis. In the six years or so that

    I've been dealing with them I have only returned one.

    I received a letter from them In tonight's mail,

    offering a 30 day trial on their audio program, Vocal Power: Speaking with Confidence, Clarity and

    Conviction
    . Here are excerpts from the letter:

    Your level of achievement, happiness, and

    satisfaction in life is directly related to the outcomes of your communications. If you want them to be as

    successful as possible, it is vital that you gain control of the one factor that, more than any other, determines

    communication success, your voice.

    <snip>

    Roger Love will teach you how to truly

    understand the power of your voice, maximize its pluses, and minimize its flaws. You'll exude confidence and

    charisma every single time you speak, and when you do, your "audiences" - Clients, colleagues, your kids, your

    spouse, and all the people you encounter through the course of the day - will hear exactly what you want them

    to hear.
    On top of the free trial offer, there's a chance to "earn $1000 as a paid professional

    voice talent for Nightingale-Conant." (Plus airfare and accomodations in Chicago.)

    With all this talk here

    about vocal training recently, I don't think I should pass the offer up. Who knows, I may be on the way to a new

    carreer as a voice over actor.

    If I do order it, I'll report back here on what I think of it.

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    One serious

    question. Will vocal training help, or hurt my yodeling ability?

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