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    Ok guys, you may

    have read me "talking" about this, and since I have now restarted this fairly large project I thought I would start

    a thread on it.


    My goals in making this are:
    1. Looking at an idividual mix or application, I aim

      to create

    • a convenient method of recording hits
    • an easy way to record day by day (or

      situation by situation) results
    • a way to quantify, compare and analyse results and hits
    • a method of

      recording and analysing different application methods and points (does spreading it out help? etc.)
    • a way to

      identify the best location for the mix/application
    • a method to identifying the optimum dosage; overall and on a

      location by location basis (e.g wearing 0.1 ml while clubbing got the best results, but you need only 0.06 ml to

      reach the optimum dose for restaurant situation)
    • the period of effectivness of the mix/application
    • the

      optimum period to receive hits (e.g 1 hour after application)
    2. Looking at pheromone use in general, I aim

    to address the following questions:
    • the optimum dose of -none, -nol, and -rone when applied

      individually
    • the effects resultsing from various ratios of pheromones when applied together
    • do some

      pheromones work better in some application points?
    • high concentrations and low doses or low concentration and

      high doses?
    Have I missed anything? What else would be useful?

    Questions?

    These are some screen

    caps of it as it is now (very rough), there is a general lack of space to write notes on the days usage at the

    moment:
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    - Carriers

    - Sources (labs

    have different purification processes)


    Looks exciting, though.

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    you should cout ppl

    density aswell no? You may be clubbing or in the metro but density varys [dance flore density is difrent than at

    tables or bar... for example ] or [rush hours & at midnight in the met]
    just a sugesion ...

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    Admirable project. One major

    issue is anticipated number of data points to get meaningful results: You have to keep it simple to get enough.
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    I suggest including a base

    rate: For several days, apply no pheromones, and record your unenhanced number of "hits".
    I also suggest

    categories of "hits", ranging from the ambiguous (looking at you) to the unambiguous (intercourse).

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    Thanks for the feedback so far

    guys.

    bjf,

    Good idea. Carriers would have to be limited to combo applications, as it gets complicated with

    mixes.



    eric,

    Yes I think that needs addressing, not as easy as it sounds though.



    Doc,



    Thanks. Yeah one of the big problems is keeping it simple and yet accurate.


    ismellgood,

    That would be

    up to the user, but a good suggestion none the less. I could be interesting to see what aspects of interaction are

    changed the most (passive, active, social) by certain pheros/phero ratios.
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    Yeah that's a given



    Cheers anyway
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    Hi,

    Not to dig up old

    threads...but this I think would be of interest to newbies like me. So what happened to the project or

    progress/results or is it been abandone???

    Cheers

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    Not at all, I've just been

    busy with other things in the Pherolibrary. Once I get the Pherolibrary up to a good standard I'll get back to work

    on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling
    Not at all,

    I've just been busy with other things in the Pherolibrary. Once I get the Pherolibrary up to a good standard I'll

    get back to work on it.
    Hi Cpt,

    Cool looking forward to it. Keep up the good job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptKipling
    Ok guys, you

    may have read me "talking" about this, and since I have now restarted this fairly large project I thought I would

    start a thread on it.


    My goals in making this are:
    1. Looking at an idividual mix or

      application, I aim to create

    • a convenient method of recording hits
    • an easy way to

      record day by day (or situation by situation) results
    • a way to quantify, compare and analyse results and

      hits
    • a method of recording and analysing different application methods and points (does spreading it out help?

      etc.)
    • a way to identify the best location for the mix/application
    • a method to identifying the optimum

      dosage; overall and on a location by location basis (e.g wearing 0.1 ml while clubbing got the best results, but you

      need only 0.06 ml to reach the optimum dose for restaurant situation)
    • the period of effectivness of the

      mix/application
    • the optimum period to receive hits (e.g 1 hour after application)
    2. Looking at

    pheromone use in general, I aim to address the following questions:
    • the optimum dose of -none, -nol,

      and -rone when applied individually
    • the effects resultsing from various ratios of pheromones when applied

      together
    • do some pheromones work better in some application points?
    • high concentrations and low doses or

      low concentration and high doses?
    Have I missed anything? What else would be useful?



    Questions?

    These are some screan caps of it as it is now (very rough), there is a general lack of space

    to write notes on the days usage at the moment:
    Well thought-out, but unnecessary. Ratios are arbitrary,

    I always use relatively low levels of -none; -nol -rone can be more liberal. Androstenone is a steroid and women and

    men who have increased testosterone levels tend to respond positively. Period. I'd hazard a guess reponses to -nol

    and -rone are the same way, though using these two alone is "safer". Adding -none to -nol and -rone will cause a

    negative response in males and females who have high estrogen levels.

    I've observed this consistently.

    Until research scientists find a different pathway, the question we're stuck with is how can you spot someone with

    higher testosterone levels?

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    Sir Louis:

    Is that what it is?

    High t-levels that cause people to react positively to none? That does seem to jive some?

    Can you explain

    how you arrived at this conclusion, and how you knew the people had higher t-levels (or was this a study someone

    else did?

    Also, there are ways to tell who has higher t-levels..........since you are like hetero and a guy,

    i will tell you with women it is rounded shoulders I think (jvk spoke about the signs at one point) and there is a

    finger length correlation.
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    Is that what it is?

    High t-levels that cause people to react positively to none? That does seem to jive some?

    Can you explain

    how you arrived at this conclusion, and how you knew the people had higher t-levels (or was this a study someone

    else did?
    I don't. Over years of using -none containing products and observing reactions, almost every

    sexual "hit" I've received have been from athletic, competitive women. To date, and I wear pheromone products

    every day, I have never observed a "beta" male or female ("breeder" type) respond in a positive manner to -none,

    and I've noticed only passable -nol and -rone responses.

    Also, there are ways to tell who has higher

    t-levels..........since you are like hetero and a guy, i will tell you with women it is rounded shoulders I think

    (jvk spoke about the signs at one point) and there is a finger length correlation.
    Interesting, can you

    explain further?

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    Cap, this is great. Have you taken

    the weather conditions into consideration? Good work!
    "Some days will stay a thousand years, some pass like the flash of a spark...who knows where all our days go?"

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    Good point Elvis. At least the

    Temperature should be important and maby humidity...
    "He who makes a beast of himself
    gets rid of the pain of being a man"
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    Greetings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Louis
    I don't. Over years

    of using -none containing products and observing reactions, almost every sexual "hit" I've received have been from

    athletic, competitive women. To date, and I wear pheromone products every day, I have never observed a "beta" male

    or female ("breeder" type) respond in a positive manner to -none, and I've noticed only passable -nol and -rone

    responses.


    Interesting, can you explain

    further?
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    " Women's sensitivity to -rone, and therefore their response to it, will vary with levels of hormones. The

    trick is to avoid having too much of it most of the time. Too much for a more feminine heterosexual woman, might not

    be too much for a more masculine heterosexual woman. I hope we hear of some results in this regard. BTW, there's

    nothing wrong with more masculine heterosexual woman; they can be much more fun because they tend to be a bit more

    aggressive, and also tend to have two peaks in their drive: one at ovulation, another just before their period

    starts. Pay attention to body type: a more masculinized heterosexual woman will show signs of slightly broader

    shoulder width (very slightly), less fat distribution in the hips, thighs, and butt, and have smaller breasts--all

    due to more testosterone and less estrogen. The tendency also is for these women to be 5'5'' plus rather than the

    shorter profile of women with more estrogen. All of the preceeding is based on my own experience, but follows the

    biological facts (progesterone before the start of menses can have effects like testosterone in women). I'm certain

    that other Forum members can attest to the differences in body type that correlate with sexual behavior. If not, it

    should be fun for others to learn about such differences. But, watch out for large, thick-waisted women; a more

    masculinized extreme. They're less likely to like guys." JVK
    "An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Louis
    I don't. Over

    years of using -none containing products and observing reactions, almost every sexual "hit" I've received have been

    from athletic, competitive women. To date, and I wear pheromone products every day, I have never observed a "beta"

    male or female ("breeder" type) respond in a positive manner to -none, and I've noticed only passable -nol and

    -rone responses.
    That is very strange. There are days when I cannot seem to get the fat women off of me

    when I wear lots of Androstenone. Of course, some of them are very aggressive sexually anyway.

    Some older women

    respond poorly to my strong Androstenone applications, but that may be due more to my personality. I am one of

    those guys who says something without realizing that people may perceive it in an entirely different way from me.

    By the time I realize I have committed a faux pas, it's too late. Women closer to my age and older seem more prone

    to react negatively than the younger ones.

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    I think it's true that -none

    tends to get more aggressive women excited, but I don't think that that's the end of the story.
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