You probably won't be close
enough to the judge for mones to matter.
You probably won't be close
enough to the judge for mones to matter.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
I vote for Chikara, and vote
against high -none levels.
Be a decent (not fawning) guy. Seem like a "citizen".
Pay your fine in advance and
avoid the hassle of sitting there all day long, watching other people fail to beat the system.
i don't mind paying a fine but
it's the points against my driving record that's a prob. plus i'm a young guy who drives fast and has gotten
tickets and into accidents before so my insurance will sky rocket.
Originally Posted by TRock
Don't want to come off
like I'm flameing, but Uh! lesson learned??
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
It's kind of hard to be
sympathetic to your problem. Most of us have had our tickets and learned to slow down. It's cheaper and safer that
way. Not nearly as much fun but paying traffic tickets and high insurance isn't much fun either.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
nah i completely understand, it's
like a generation gap kind of thing. i'll get it as i get older.
I drive fast all the time but
have learned to slow down where the cops hide...
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
haha that's a great way to see
things. love it.
Now you'reOriginally Posted by TRock
starting to undestand the only difference between an older person and a younger one. We older ones have made the
stupid mistakes you haven't had time to get to yet!!
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
And were lucky enough to live through them!Originally Posted by Mtnjim
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
You want to avoid -none and A1
altogether, but wear -rone, WAGG, -nol, and whatever else.
...and always drive carefully and safely. Many of
those mistakes are very destructive and can't ever be undone by time. You could hang out at the race track ---
those guys are always cautious drivers off the track.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
as he says "It's a
generational thing". Try to imagine a whole world where everyone drives like you do.
Okay, here is a possibly
useless alternative suggestion. I base it on something which happened a couple of years ago, before I started
learning about body language and pheromones. This is one of those "GOD IF I HAD ONLY KNOWN!" kind of stories.
Okay, I was in an accident about three years ago. Wasn't my fault, but the way my car ended up, the cop insisted
he had to give me a ticket along with two other drivers. Well, I was living in Texas at the time, but this will
apply in several other states. It turns out that you can take a defensive driving course something like once every
ten years and get a ticket cleared. You HAVE to arrange it with the court BEFORE you go to traffic court (call your
local court to see what the rules are).
The class lasts six hours. It's long, it's boring. A lot of people
opt to take it over the Internet.
DON'T DO THAT!
Let me repeat myself: DON'T DO THAT!
Why? Okay, here
is the story.
I took the six-hour class. Signed up for a local "comedy club" version of the class. They
claimed they would make the six hours go faster with jokes. Well, the humor wasn't all that much. But the
Vietnamese girl who sat next to me -- WHOA! What a hottie!
She came into the room after most of us were seated.
There were only a few open seats left. There must have been 20-30 guys in there. The place was packed, standing
room only. So, any woman who walked into that room was instantly hit by a LOT of pheromones and had her choice of
men to flirt with.
This girl came up to the front of the class and sat down next to me.
In fact, she almost
sat ON me. Now, this was BEFORE I started using pheromones. I was wearing blue jeans, a golf shirt (maybe a
t-shirt), and running shoes. Nothing fancy.
She struck up a conversation with me before the class and during
the breaks. I sensed she was interested but I didn't feel like it would be appropriate to suggest anything (I
forget why -- I was probably too new to the area or something).
When it came time for lunch, the girl had been
sitting with her hip against mine for almost an hour. I mean, there was as much full physical contact between us as
she could manage to make. She would go out of her way to turn so her back would rub up against me. Her arms all
but laid across mine.
At lunch, I asked a few people if they could recommend a cheap fast-food spot close by.
She recommended Burger King. I asked if she would be going there and she said, "No". I knew right there I had
blown an opportunity.
Wasn't really looking for an opportunity, mind you. I was just there to get the class
out of the way. I should have suggested we have lunch together, so I could get to know her better. But I didn't.
And I regretted NOT taking that step.
So, the moral of the story: if you have a traffic ticket, USE it to your
advantage. If you are in a state that lets you take that dumb class, then find a "comedy club" class and wear your
best clothes and wear your pheromones and hope for the best.
The class will probably be hot, crowded, long, and
boring. Get there early and try to get a good seat. Let the women see you.
At the very least, you should get a
discount on your insurance AND you may get out of a ticket. At best, you'll meet Miss Right, or at least Miss
Right Now.
Too bad Ms. Right cant drive.Originally Posted by Friendly1
Blessed are the cross-eyed, for they shall see God twice.
Products I own: AE/m, APC/m, NPA/m, TE/m, SPMO, SOE/m, WAGG, Perception, EW, Chikara
I'm 26 drive more
carfully! that is all there is to this ... wana race? goto the track there is none? make a group to push for that in
the neiborhood or somthing... stop acting like a moron act like the guy you are whith a brain in his head...want to
impress girls ? be a F1 /Indy driver :P
-----------------------
my mottho: if you think i drive like a crazy
the step out the walkway!
That's not entirely true. Actually, most people just pay their fine...my dad always fights...andOriginally Posted by Friendly1
he has won 4 out of 5 that I know of. Most police officers don't bother to show. The only caveat: wasted day off,
gas to go to the court and back, and my dad studies the topic thoroughly so he knows how to win his argument. If
you're not willing to do that, don't waste your time.
Originally Posted by TRock
Driving like that, you may not get older. And let's hope you don't deny
someone else the opportunity to get older.
You might want to read this. It
got my freind out of a
ticket.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846
Then after you try to beat this one...stop driving
like an idiot before you kill someone!
thanks for the help guys. i just
want to say that i'm not a bad driver. only 1 accident was deemed my fault by the cops. tickets are all about
getting revenue, they're not about safety at all. doing 85 in the fast lane with while other cars are doing 85 is
not dangerous. now cutting lanes back and forth all the time is different. if ticketing was about safety then radar
detectors would be illegal. if i was smart enough to buy a radar detector i would never had gotten a ticket.
Having wallked away from
several front-end collisions, let me assure you that 85 MPH is more than enough to kill you. Don't assume the
tickets are all about revenues. They are not.
That said, if you go to court, be sure to concentrate on using
your body language to seem friendly and law-abiding before the judge.
And every time I went to court, hoping the
officer wouldn't show up, HE DID.
Your mileage may vary.
Radar detectors are illegal... (in CA and many other states, at least)Originally Posted by TRock
That said,
European vehicles do 100 easy, and they have less accidents than the US...you could attribute that to the roads or
to the fact that they're smarter than Americans...
A lot depends on the drivers.
Depending on where you are, road manners vary tremendously. Here in the Dallas area they have some of the worst
manners I've ever seen resulting in a greater percentage of the drivers being in accidents than other places with
far more traffic. Driving with the flow of traffic and not driving aggressively would help prevent a lot of bad
wrecks.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
i've been to cali this summer. the traffic is so heavy there, you can't even speedOriginally Posted by Pancho1188
and if u did, it would be unsafe.i agree with belgareth, i'm talking about doing 85 in the fast line with the flow
of traffic. if anybody's been to the jersey turnpike guys in their luxury sports car regulary do 100+ on a sunday
morning with empty road. it's not really about the speed but more about the skill of the driver. and yeah europeans
are smarter than americans, that also helps.
Last I heard Radar detectors are legal in CA. You won't be safe from laserOriginally Posted by Pancho1188
with a radar detector. You'll need a jammer.
http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/scanlaws/radar4.html
yeah i've read about that too.
right now laser jammers are legal, but radar jammers are illegal. i also read that most places can't afford laser
so they still use radar.
You can use radar detectors
though. The Escort or the bel combo would be nice. Laser signal is easily disrupted, so laser jammers are good.
They are probably illegial in some places but it's just disrupting light.
Originally Posted by TRock
I believe I misspoke earlier.
Radar detectors are useless in CA. After all, radar is not used in CA to catch people speeding. My
mistake. I believe what I was thinking about was that you've better not be caught by a cop with a radar detector
because they don't appreciate it.
BZZZZZT!!Originally Posted by Pancho1188
Yes radar is used in California. In fact, until last year
the CHP wasn't allowed to use radar to catch speeders on the freeways, that changed last year and now thay do use
it. The non freeway enforcement has used it for years! They also use aircraft patrols. They just have to post "Radar
enforced" and/or "Enforced by Aircraft" signs.
Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite.
--Lazarus Long
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