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    Guys, check out this website.



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    thanks for the link xysen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    BZZZZZT!!
    Yes radar is used in California. In fact, until last year the CHP wasn't allowed to use

    radar to catch speeders on the freeways, that changed last year and now thay do use it. The non freeway enforcement

    has used it for years! They also use aircraft patrols. They just have to post "Radar enforced" and/or "Enforced by

    Aircraft" signs.
    You beat me to it Mtnjim. I live right on the Az/Ca border and was going

    to say that they have used radar for several years on the state highways in Ca but have just recently started using

    them on the Interstate freeways. I noticed this spring though, that they still have planes follow I8 in your neck of

    the woods.

    I'm reminded of the TV show, CHIPS, where they pull over some guy for speeding and he gets out

    of his car and pops open a hubcap, complaining that the balled up foil inside was suppose to jam radar. He was

    then told that they didn't use radar in that state.

    California driving scares me. A couple of years ago I

    was driving North from San Diego to Vista in evening rush hour traffic. I saw a flash of light in my rearview mirror

    and saw a couple of motorcycle fools on cafe racers, riding wheelies down the freeway! I was glad when they passed

    and got way ahead. I don't care if they kill themselves, just don't make me witness it.

    And while we're on

    the hijack, what about the motorcyclist who was

    recentlyticketed for doing 205mph!

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    i heard from people that ride

    bikes that cops don't even bother with kawaski/honda/suzuki type bikes b/c the bike is too fast for the police

    car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    i heard from

    people that ride bikes that cops don't even bother with kawaski/honda/suzuki type bikes b/c the bike is too fast

    for the police car.
    I beg to differ.

    http://tinyurl.com/457yr

    I won't get into

    the seemingly pointless discussion of whether he was going 205 or 195 or 185. The point is that he was flying and he

    was caught.
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    anybody think he will beat the

    ticket? reading up on how to beat tickets, i saw something about if there's a clerical error, chances are the

    ticket is thrown out. like if you get a parking ticket and the color of your car is black but it's stated as blue

    or if the plate is wrote in wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    i heard from

    people that ride bikes that cops don't even bother with kawaski/honda/suzuki type bikes b/c the bike is too fast

    for the police car.
    Don't bet on it. Radio is faster still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    BZZZZZT!!
    Yes

    radar is used in California. In fact, until last year the CHP wasn't allowed to use radar to catch speeders on the

    freeways, that changed last year and now thay do use it. The non freeway enforcement has used it for years! They

    also use aircraft patrols. They just have to post "Radar enforced" and/or "Enforced by Aircraft" signs.

    Well, that explains it. I haven't been to CA in a year, and when I was there and every year I've

    been there, they (on the freeway) had to catch you speeding by other means. I know because one of the tickets my

    dad beat was one where the police officer was doing 85 to catch up to my dad (the police car was far behind him

    driving, not on the side of the road), so he argued that the officer didn't leave enough time to slow down and

    determine his actual speed.

    For the record, if you get a ticket for speeding in CA off of the freeway, you're

    an idiot. The speed limit off the freeway is like 45 in most places around where my family lives (I compare that to

    where I lived in PA with hills and crappy roads where it was 35 most places and 45 zones were like heaven). If you

    go over that in an atmosphere like that (lights every few hundred yards, people turning everywhere, cars pulling in

    and out of commercial areas, etc.), you're just asking for trouble, anyway.


    In conclusion, I'm wrong...I

    don't keep up on current events, apparently.

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    Cincinnati Microwave makes the

    best radar detectors by far. You can get them cheaper from their refitted model store too. Escort is one of their

    models.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    *\Highjack mode

    on/*

    Quote Originally Posted by InternationalPlayboy
    You beat me to it Mtnjim. I live right on the Az/Ca border and was going to

    say that they have used radar for several years on the state highways in Ca but have just recently started using

    them on the Interstate freeways. I noticed this spring though, that they still have planes follow I8 in your neck of

    the woods.
    ...
    Even worse, Don't know if you noticed the K-Rail along the freeway from Buckman

    to the check point. That was installed because the smugglers were going west in the eastbound lanes at night with

    their lights off to avoid the check point. There were several accidents and about 12 people were killed.

    The

    other scarry things are the idiots who are 3 feet off your rear bumper at 80 MPH. (Did they flunk 8th grade

    physics?)
    And how about those morons who can't remember they take a particular exit so end up swooping across 3

    lanes to exit? I've almost been killed by a couple of 'em.

    *\Highjack mode off/*
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    i heard from

    people that ride bikes that cops don't even bother with kawaski/honda/suzuki type bikes b/c the bike is too fast

    for the police car.
    For a traffic stop, it is not worth the endangerment of bystanders and other

    motorists to chase after a bike. If its a murder suspect, drug dealer, etc, thats a different story, and they WILL

    catch him. Nothing on the ground will outrun a helicopter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    *\Highjack mode

    on/*

    The other scarry things are the idiots who are 3 feet off your rear bumper at 80 MPH. (Did they flunk 8th

    grade physics?)
    And how about those morons who can't remember they take a particular exit so end up swooping

    across 3 lanes to exit? I've almost been killed by a couple of 'em.

    *\Highjack mode off/*
    Now they

    add the extra challenge of talking on their cell phone while pulling those stupid stunts.

    This thread has gone

    way off track and doesn't come close to science of attraction so I am moving it to Open Discussion.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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    Okay to your original question:

    I'd go for small amounts of Chikara or SOE. I think it's to your advantage even though the judge wont be able to

    directly inhale you're enhanced mone sig, its not like you're trying to pick him or her up...then again if its a

    her?

    As for the intergenerational lecture rant...The unfortunate fact is not everyone has the same motor

    skills, hand to eye coordination, response time, spatial perception etc...so they have designed the traffic laws to

    take into account a below average level of these skill sets...so little old ladies & men can drive as well budding

    Michael Shumacher's...

    Same with the DUI or DWI laws...some people can probably drive fine on 2 beers,

    others experience impairment where they should'nt be behind the wheel. But they cant make DWI laws that differ

    from one person to another...

    Judging from TRock's Tetris scores I'm sure his hand to eye coordination &

    spatial perception are very high...I'm sure he could easily drive at race car speeds, but unfortunately most people

    on the roads are nowhere near that skill level & on top of that are eating a Big Mac & talking on the phone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    And how about

    those morons who can't remember they take a particular exit so end up swooping across 3 lanes to exit? I've almost

    been killed by a couple of 'em.
    Since we're in Open Discussion now...

    I am one of those morons. I'm

    driving in the car pool lane (no idea where I'm going)...I'm not even sure if I have my license yet or just my

    permit, but my dad says, "Oh, we need to get off at the next exit!"

    "Thanks for telling me now, Dad!!!"



    "We can make it. Go over now."

    "We're next to a double-white line! We're in the car pool

    lane!"

    "You can make it! Go!"

    *Switch lanes*

    "Okay...wait a second...okay, now!"

    *Switch lanes*



    "Okay...wait...go! Wait, don't go! There's a guy there. Okay...now! GO, GO, GO!"

    *Switch lanes*

    "Go

    again, you're good!"

    *Switch lanes*

    The exit's right there...I'm one lane away, and the median thing is

    coming up...I'm running out of room...I try to change lanes so we all don't die.

    "Bud, you can't move over

    yet...there's a guy right next to you!"

    "Dude, move! We're all going to crash if you don't! Doesn't he see

    I'm about to crash if he doesn't speed up or slow down or something!?!?!"

    I slow down and pull in behind the

    guy...just as the end of the median-like thing (slashing lines) turned into a wall...I'm so glad that a. I didn't

    get arrested and b. I'm still alive.

    However, I will never forget the time I crossed five lanes in less than a

    mile in heavy afternoon CA freeway traffic with a mere driver's permit.

    After this incident, I never drive

    without knowing where I'm going first and receiving continual updates as to directions. That and I've learned

    never to trust my dad with anything... ...but that comes from years of experience.

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    Thinking more about

    the radar detector controversy this morning on the way to work. The fact that some states ban them and companies

    like Geico campaign to make them illegal across the country.

    There are detectors now that can alert the

    driver to road hazards ahead, such as construction zones and emergency vehicles. I don't know how many counties,

    states, whatever the jurisdiction is that would have to incorporate the beacons into their equipment for the

    detectors to receive them actually use the technology, but I think that it's not a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metroman
    ...As for the

    intergenerational lecture rant...The unfortunate fact is not everyone has the same motor skills, hand to eye

    coordination, response time, spatial perception etc...
    Truely, for an old fart, my motor skills and

    coordination are still at the higher end. I don't worry about myself, it's that person who is totally unaware of

    their surroundings who decides to suddenly pull into the fast lane doing 45, 5' in front of me while I'm doing 90.

    You have to remember that at least 1/2 of the drivers (certainly the above average members of this forum, just other

    people) are on "autopilot", talking, eating, using their cell phone, reading (yes, I've actually seen this,

    newspaper spread out over the steering wheel), putting on makeup etc. Now, out in the boonies, where there might be

    1 or 2 other cars--high speed baby!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtnjim
    The other scarry

    things are the idiots who are 3 feet off your rear bumper at 80 MPH. (Did they flunk 8th grade

    physics?)


    Seriously.
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    Over 75% of people respond

    that they're above average drivers when surveyed...

    (Think about that...only 50% of the population can be

    "above average" )

    We all overestimate our abilities. It's an ego thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho1188
    We all

    overestimate our abilities.
    In general? I don't think so.
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    and the result

    is......................... a reduced fine and charges are dropped. thanks for the help everyone, now i have more

    money for mones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    In general? I

    don't think so.
    In certain psychological studies, people are more likely to overestimate their abilities

    when comparing themselves to the general population. In other words, when comparing things such as driving ability,

    intelligence, etc., people are more likely to see themselves as "above average" compared to the rest of the

    population. I can't be more specific as I am unsure of the exact types of questions that create such responses.




    This does not include such questions as, "How good are you at pool?" where it could be anyone's guess as to

    over or underestimation with no point of comparison.



    It's more of a psychological joke than anything.

    "75% of the population is 'above average'." Anyone who knows statistics should see that this is impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    and the result

    is......................... a reduced fine and charges are dropped. thanks for the help everyone, now i have more

    money for mones.


    Did you use anything?

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    2 swipes of soe and alpha male

    body language. it was a female court-whatever-you-call it that i talked to.

    i have the non verbal sexual cuing

    ebook.
    in line i was practicing the cues. and i noticed this 40ish woman looking at me so i tried directing the

    some of the cues. when they told me to sit down i sat down right behind her and later on i asked a question and

    looked in her eyes and saw they were real dilated. so i sparked some interest lol. i left it at that and let my ego

    get more inflated, there was no way i would have asked her for her number. now i need to buy a book that teaches how

    to read body language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho1188
    Over 75% of

    people respond that they're above average drivers when surveyed...

    (Think about that...only 50% of the

    population can be "above average" )

    We all overestimate our abilities. It's an ego thing.

    Drive, without that Big Mac, not putting on makeup, and not tailgateing and you ARE above

    average!


    By the way, there is a simple reflex test. Have someone hold a ruler vertically against

    the wall the 1" end down. Hold your finger 1" away over the bottem end. Have them let the ruler go. Stop it with a

    finger. I used to be 3", now adays I'm about 4 1/2" (what can I say, we all slow down as we age). The average is

    7-8". If you miss the ruler completely, sit down---now, you are dangerous to everyone! Be sure to do this

    sober!! (Sorry, for our Metric members, I never saw Metric instructions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho1188
    In certain

    psychological studies, people are more likely to overestimate their abilities when comparing themselves to the

    general population.

    http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html is one such

    study. I love the quote in the abstract: "Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate

    choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it." Another choice one:

    "Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped

    them recognize the limitations of their abilities." Perhaps ignorance *is* bliss!
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    When I was learning to drive I

    was told that almost invariably the worst drivers are the ones who claimed to be good drivers or experts. Since then

    I have seen that proven true. Those who claim they are safe drivers are the ones who get into and cause accidents

    and get tickets. The ones who are cautious, recognize the limits of themselves and their cars and allow substantial

    margin for error are the ones who never seem to have problems. Since I have an aversion to seeing my own blood, I

    try hard to follow that rule.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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