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    Hi, some perception "feedback". I don't have the product, and this is my first post under this nick. I

    had another nick a couple of years ago but havent been active and couldn't use it anymore.

    Anyway. I would very

    much like it if the dosage per spray of Perception was smaller - either the volume or concentration. A recommended

    dose of two sprays does not leave much room for a really subtle dose for everyday use. You can always spray several

    times if the dose per spray is small, but knowing how much you get from "half" of a large spray is difficult.



    The reasons i quit using pheromones a couple of years back were mainly these:

    1) Build up. The stuff got stuck

    not only on me, but everywhere: clothes, wrist watch, bed linen etc, and would stay there for a very very long

    time.

    2) It had unwanted effects on me such as feeling stressed and having a hard time relaxing or getting

    angrier easily, on higher doses even stomach aches. This might be ok if the effect was limited to the times when I

    wanted to use the products, but the build up and smearing made that impossible.

    The issues (1) are claimed to be

    resolved by Perception, which has made me interested in trying the product to see if it would work for me despite

    bad previous pheromone experiences.

    The other problem (2) is related to dosage though. Smaller dose, less

    problems. However, even "small" doses of other products I've used, such as one drop of Alter Ego, where often too

    powerful for use in everyday settings. Sure, occationally when going to clubs, a bigger dose could be ok, but you

    don't want to do that in a work or school setting. Things just get weird and you can't concentrate fully on more

    complex things, as performance in those instances will deteriorate at too high stress levels.

    Now, I wouldn't

    be surprised if there are still a lot of newbies running around wanting to get the strongest stuff, thinking the

    more the better. But as many experienced users will tell you, less is more. And the product with the best reviews

    will always attract newbies and experienced users alike. A product that works without problems in the long run will

    also get repeat buyers.

    For these reasons: Please lower the phero dose per spray, and then simply increase the

    recommended number of sprays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoareu
    Hi,

    some perception "feedback". I don't have the product, and this is my first post under this nick. I had another nick

    a couple of years ago but havent been active and couldn't use it anymore.

    Anyway. I would very much like it

    if the dosage per spray of Perception was smaller - either the volume or concentration. A recommended dose of two

    sprays does not leave much room for a really subtle dose for everyday use.
    The atomizer can be

    opened to apply the pheromones by dabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoareu
    Hi, some perception

    "feedback". I don't have the product, and this is my first post under this nick. I had another nick a couple of

    years ago but havent been active and couldn't use it anymore.

    Anyway. I would very much like it if the dosage

    per spray of Perception was smaller - either the volume or concentration. A recommended dose of two sprays does not

    leave much room for a really subtle dose for everyday use. You can always spray several times if the dose per spray

    is small, but knowing how much you get from "half" of a large spray is difficult.

    The reasons i quit using

    pheromones a couple of years back were mainly these:

    1) Build up. The stuff got stuck not only on me, but

    everywhere: clothes, wrist watch, bed linen etc, and would stay there for a very very long time.

    2) It had

    unwanted effects on me such as feeling stressed and having a hard time relaxing or getting angrier easily, on higher

    doses even stomach aches. This might be ok if the effect was limited to the times when I wanted to use the products,

    but the build up and smearing made that impossible.

    The issues (1) are claimed to be resolved by Perception,

    which has made me interested in trying the product to see if it would work for me despite bad previous pheromone

    experiences.

    The other problem (2) is related to dosage though. Smaller dose, less problems. However, even

    "small" doses of other products I've used, such as one drop of Alter Ego, where often too powerful for use in

    everyday settings. Sure, occationally when going to clubs, a bigger dose could be ok, but you don't want to do that

    in a work or school setting. Things just get weird and you can't concentrate fully on more complex things, as

    performance in those instances will deteriorate at too high stress levels.

    Now, I wouldn't be surprised if

    there are still a lot of newbies running around wanting to get the strongest stuff, thinking the more the better.

    But as many experienced users will tell you, less is more. And the product with the best reviews will always attract

    newbies and experienced users alike. A product that works without problems in the long run will also get repeat

    buyers.

    For these reasons: Please lower the phero dose per spray, and then simply increase the recommended

    number of sprays.
    Nice post!

    Perception would seem to be made for you. Get a bottle. Pour

    the Perception into it. Pour 1/4 to 1/5th back into the atomizer. Fill the atomizer with water. Shake well. Presto.

    Now you get four or fives sprays for each dose.

    I, like you, like my mones to be very dilute. Since Perception

    is water-based, it's easy to work with. Good luck.

    - Bass
    somewhere between amused and obsessed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassMan
    Get a bottle. Pour

    the Perception into it. Pour 1/4 to 1/5th back into the atomizer. Fill the atomizer with water. Shake well. Presto.

    Now you get four or fives sprays for each dose.

    Now why didn't I think of that?
    Thanks

    Bass.
    Give truth a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.k.a.
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    why didn't I think of that?
    Thanks Bass.
    Ditto. ....

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    Yep, the water based formula

    lends users the ability to dilute accordingly. Note: when diluting, your application volume may increase depending

    on what your trying to do. In other words, you could be slapping on quite a bit of liquid if you wanted to go heavy

    one evening. As for the volume per spray of Perception, we are looking into those issues and weighing options. We

    know that the gold release has a hefty blast to it and have mentioned the idea of people using 1 spray instead of 2

    because of this. People have done both (1 and 2) and have reported success. Either way, just know that we are

    definitely considering all feedback to make improvements.

    Thanks

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    Some people like to spread

    pheromones among several application points with the idea that this application method enhances effectiveness; and

    for those, sprayers create difficulties. Of course everything's a balance. With dabbing you have the problem of

    potential contamination.
    DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)

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    Hi, thanks for the feed back

    guys!

    Dilution could be a work-around, thanks for the tip. Of course, I'd prefer not having to go through the

    hassle. I'm also wondering if there's anything in the product to kill of bacteria. Hardly a problem with alcohol

    based products, but with the water base I'm thinking that maybe diluting it several times could make what ever is

    in it to kill of the monsters less lethal. That would make contamination by dabbing a potential problem also.



    Also, can you be sure that the famed "polymer" still locks in the pheros after diluting say four times? If so, is

    there any limit to that?

    I'm still thinking that lower concentration and/or less volume per spray is the way to

    go for a product aimed at good phero-delivery. As it is now, three sprays should already be OD-teritory. In my mind

    it would clearly be better if users could apply a range of say 1-4 or 1-6 sprays (preferably without getting very

    large amounts of liquid all over) depending on the intended use at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Some people

    like to spread pheromones among several application points with the idea that this application method enhances

    effectiveness; and for those, sprayers create difficulties. Of course everything's a balance. With dabbing you have

    the problem of potential contamination.
    What about a dropper of some sort? How would that work out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XySen
    What about a dropper

    of some sort? How would that work out?
    Bottles with a pipette cap are the best way of application

    IMO. You don't contaminate the product, you don't waste any of the product like you do when spraying it, and you

    get a reproductionable, precise amount per drop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmellThis
    Some people

    like to spread pheromones among several application points with the idea that this application method enhances

    effectiveness; and for those, sprayers create difficulties. Of course everything's a balance. With dabbing you have

    the problem of potential contamination.
    This is me aswell, and hence why I don't spray many products and

    dab/roll-on mixes where posible (although mixing allows you to dilute...).

    The original Chikara sprayer was

    almost perfect though (only less then perfect because the high concentration limits the number of sprays), the

    sprays where so tiny you use it with some precision. A rule of thumb for manufacturers should be to reduce the

    concentration and increase bottle size if you are going to use a large volume sprayer.
    CptKipling

    Information about pheromones: Pheromone Information Library

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo
    Bottles with a

    pipette cap are the best way of application IMO. You don't contaminate the product, you don't waste any of the

    product like you do when spraying it, and you get a reproductionable, precise amount per drop!
    I totally

    agree with you on that.

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