Howzabout Etiocholanone (mirror image of androsterone) ?

[surfs_up]

FWIW, the basic androsterone molecule comes in three flavors; banana nut, perpermint

schnapps, and peach toffee...
not exactly, you've got your basic alpha-androsterone (like in the chem set), then

there's beta-androsterone, and then there's etiocholanone. My experiences (as in many of them) with

alpha-androsterone is, yes, humans do react to it. It is a mellower 'mone in that it doesn't seem to trigger

strong turfy emotions nor does it render others squishy and ga-ga... warm and comfy not hot and reckless... when I

started mixing up the potions, over time and through experience, an even balance of 'none, 'rone , and 'nol works

better for me in general life situations... I've also seen how great the difference can be when a hydroxy group

toggles from the alpha position (seems more romantic, related to bonding responses) to the beta position (more

social, communicative)
What happens when you use beta-androsterone then ? It is a known testosterone breakdown

product.

[DrSmellThis]

Good questions. I'm not sure

who would be able to respond, though. Which -rone is the first likely direct byproduct of DHEA?

[CptKipling]

I think good ol' alpha-rone is

the most common, but it depends on who you are.

JVK states that homosexuals have a higher etiocholanone to -rone

ratio than heterosexuals, so maybe wearing etio-none isn't a good idea.

[DrSmellThis]

Well, that doesn't mean wear

none of it. It means wear significantly less than the amount of -rone.

[surfs_up]

that is interesting.... I'm curious how that would spin a

hetero encounter... would she suddenly start to feel dyke energies ?

[DrSmellThis]

If you had too much E on

compared to -rone, she might think you're gay as a male.

[CptKipling]

True enough, but I would like

to get a handle on what it actually does before I start talking about mix theories. If it's a purely homosexual

vibe (unlikely), then I'm staying clear. But it could be usefull in creating a "dulled" masculin vibe, with more

approachability...or something.

[Star-A]

I love to read such posts. Very

informative. But I remember reading those a year ago too am I right? I know many things about organic chemistry(or

how'd call it in English) but I don't think I'd be sucsessful being able to change the molecules? I really wanna

know how you do this stuff?
Just curious?

[ismellgood]

I am curious what the effect

on women of "smelling" like a homosexual male would be. So many women are attracted to homosexual men (yes, lots of

that is good looks, expressiveness, dressing well, and being unavailable) it might be a quite interesting

experiment.

[surfs_up]

all of these molecules are available on the organic chemical market, if you wish to

spend the money, a lot of money, they aren't cheap.... there are women who feel comfortable in the company of gay

men, they seem to prefer them to straight men, less copulation pressure.... this is about relaxtion, feeling safe,

understood... possibly there's a pheromone component to that... I hear stories about lesbian sex... those girls can

get down to put the average guy to shame, ok, that's a ridiculous generalization, although the dyke bars in my town

have a reputation of sorts...

[CptKipling]

that is

interesting.... I'm curious how that would spin a hetero encounter... would she suddenly start to feel dyke

energies ?

I'm not sure how the andro/etio relationship corresponds to women, I would guess something

else is going on (I have heard of people being able to smell a gay man, but what about a lesbian?).

JVK?

[DrSmellThis]

I believe I can smell when a

woman tends toward lesbian, even if she's bi.