Ever heard of or tried this?

[CptKipling]

I would buy it if the price was

right.

BTW, $40 for something like this on it's own is not the right price for me

[Max]

Well, I ordered the book, tried to

read it. But I constantly got 'validation failed' messages. Contacted their customer support, but no one bothered

to sort me out. Finally, I just gave up and asked for a refund. Still no one replies.
Weird.
Here comes

an interesting part. When I went to the refund page, it says digital goods can't be refunded. But Swinger kept

saying on the advert page that he'd get us a refund when we're not satisfied with what we got, and I'm D**n

disatisfied!
Just read a little bit of it. Same ol' Same ol' for seasoned dating book junkies like me.

Lots of spelling errors all over the place. Explanation of his concepts didn't go deep enough.
In addition,

the eBook viewer sucks. It's got no print function, so you just have to keep looking at the computer screen. And I

ran into similar problem with NSC, so got a refund and deleted the file. The same eBook viewer there.
You've

been warned.

[TRock]

you didn't like nsc? now granted

some of the stuff is obvious but they're done subconsciuosly and you don't realize you're doing it. now you know

how to do it consciously and use it to your advantage. i think nsc is worth it if you bought the ebook not the

tapes. i've been thinking about getting swinggcat's book and i probably will later this weekend. if it's junk

i'll just get a refund.

as long as u paid with a credit card you can always geta refund back. if they bullshit

you, print out the page that says you can get a refund and your credit card company will handle the rest.

[Max]

Thanks, Trock. I actually ordered

NSC/Situational opener combo, and paid for them together. They only sent me the latter. I complained, of course. No

replies. In addition, The eBook viewer, in this case as well, didn't validate my username and PW, which means that

I can't navigate myself arounf the eBook. Well, I much prefer pdf files.
Anyway, I finally got a refund,

but until the very end, they didn't bother to tell me they're sorry or anything.
What's wrong with these

people?

[TRock]

oh i know why you have problems

with the viewer. happened to me too, you have to update the viewer from the options menu. then the password gets put

in by you, by clicking the help menu. yeah that sucks that you had bad customer service.

the openers ebook is

trash b/c you can get opener ideas from anywhere. and you don't need that many openers really, you just need a few

that works. my PUA skills are elementary right now so maybe you need to know alot of openers down the line. i know 2

or 3 and i have the routine down and i used that on every girl i talk to.

[Max]

Tried to update the viewer. Turns out

that it's the latest version. So, still no luck on that front. Think I'll have to contact my credit card co. in

due time. No argument there as to the uselessness of openers. I believe what's most important is to have the

powerful sense of authority and confidence in dealing with females than any gimmicks or techniques.
SO, does

NSC contain any new ideas that DYD Advanced Series didn't touch upon?

[bizraterx]

This kinda sounds like a

repackged version of David Deangelos double your dating!

[ToxDoc]

I can’t comment on the DYD

Advanced Series as I don’t have it. Personally I do like the NSC. Since I acquired the ebook and took it into

practice for business and daily interactions, people seem to react in a more positive way toward me than before.

Granted that I have only used it for a short period of time and am still in the stage that I need to “consciously”

apply what I have learnt and at times I feel rather awkward, subtle changes in my body language and posture seem to

have made people felt more comfortable with me. Perhaps Chikara also has a role in it, since I have been wearing it

on and off for a while. It’s hard to tell. BTW, my NSC comes in as a PDF, and I have not had any problem with it

in terms of viewing.

On a side note, any chance of releasing a non-scented Chikara at all, Bruce?

[TRock]

i think nsc is very valuable. i

don't have the advance series of dyd yet so i can't comment either. but from reading about other techniques and

gimmicks, they always talk about delivery and other nonverbal aspects in the approach. david d says it too in his

ebook and emails but not in detail. nsc explains the nonverbal aspect and why it's important. he says you can

create attraction before even saying a word by these techniques. i'll guess i'll have to try it out this

weekend.

[Max]

Alright, TRock. Let us know how you

get on. So, the NSC came in pdf format, then?
Situational Opener came in with that awful viewer, in my case.

That's why I deleted the file, and got a refund.
Wonder why some refuse to use pdf format for their

eBooks.
BTW, Trock, what are the kind of things NSC tells you to do even before approaching women? If you told

me what they are, I might get an idea as to whether NSC has something definitely original or not. Cheers.

[bzpwhx]

Guys,

Anyone

every bought this course?

http://www.realworldseduction.com



The owner wrote me and offered me a 100% commission on the sale of this e-book, which is of course tempting, but

I'm concerned about the quality. With that size commission, I could give away a starter kit of some sort right

along with it. The e-book costs about $40. Since I would get all of that, I could make it a set where you get quite

a few gel packets (we will soon have Chikara and Alter Ego for men packets).

Bottom line though... Is this book

of any value? Anyone tried it?

B

Dear Bruce,
have you tried to search for a similar argument on

Amazon?
There are a lot of books about this subject and I bought some of them.
The ones I liked the most were the

books with the body languages issues explained.
Probably I didn`t need them at all but it`s the way you figure out

yourself that matter.
I don`t think this book is very different from the others but it may be a good business for

you.
My idea is the following: give ten copies to people around and try to collect their feedback.
Obviously it

has to work for awesome guys but the normal one also.

Alessandro

[TRock]

i haven't read this book yet. but

from reading around other sites, commercially available seduction books that you can buy at from like amazon.com or

barnes and noble, don't really tell how it is. it's sugar coated and messes with men's mind even more. i rather

get the down and dirty information than the politically correct one.

[Max]

I read those dating manuals that are

available from Amazon.com. They suck! Books on body language written by Don Steele are the absolute worst of them

all. A book called layguide is like a summary of info available from fast seduction.com. So, if you don't like

reading off your computer screen, go for that book. You might find some useful unmoderated ideas there.
Telling

you, some of these books are so embarrassingly bad that you just can't wreak up the courage to let even your

closest mates to read.

[TRock]

i just bought the ebook. it's not

downloadable?

[phersurf]

True seduction is not demeaning

toward women! Women want to be seduced.

Neither DYD or NSC are in the least it demeaning. They do however

advocate not taking any crap from women because that will make you look weak to them.

[TRock]

according to david d. there's 8

types of men. 4 of them are chumps, i'm not gonna name them. the other 4: bad boy, adventurer, seducer, and artist

(the weird one) are the ones girls want to be with.

[bzpwhx]

Sorry but the problem is to

search the final reply on books about seduction.

Like the "all in one" book on technology that try to teach you

Java Enterprise in 24 hours or seduction for "dummis" series (I dont know if really it exists!)
My solution was to

read books on subject that can actually help me to have a better understanding about the "women" world.
A book very

very nice is "never to be lied to again" David j.lieberman .
I have few other books about NPL (not applied to

seduction but a discussion about the subject) and I think is too complex to be really applied by the way you can

ever give it a try.
The books on body language sometime fail to give you the right informations using comics or old

bn pictures stay away from them can put shit on your brain! You can find yourself serching for a pattern (a series

of gestures) that can never happen!
And, obviously, books about self confidence (yes I repeat that is the way you

see yourself that matter , if you see a very good guy the other will be happy to share their time with you...

)
Finally the old good one "dale carnegie" an author (dead rip) very interesting (how to make friends - I'm not

sure cause I know the italian title- is the book that I like) and Men are from mars, women from venus that can teach

you something very interesting on the "women" brain.

Well put it togheter and... well you will not remember

anything! Granted!
I read those book many times and I still make errors.

The "truth" book on "something" (put

here what you prefere) doesnt exist.
Sorry.

Alex

[BassMan]

according to david d.

there's 8 types of men. 4 of them are chumps, i'm not gonna name them. the other 4: bad boy, adventurer, seducer,

and artist (the weird one) are the ones girls want to be with.

Hmm. I've been told I'm adventurer/artist.

That certainly gives me something to think about. Thanks!

-Bass

[TRock]

customer service for swinggcat

sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TRock]

i have filed a complaint with

paypal and will talk to my credit card if this isn't resolved. i never got my ebook and they don't respond to

emails.

[Max]

This Swingcat guy is out to rob us or

something. Absolutely no reply to any of my e-mails. Sent me wrong username and password, and I asked him to sort me

out. He for some reason chose to ignore my e-mails. I'll file a complaint as well.