I've been using them for
about 6 years now (53 year old male) and not noticed any sign of balding.
Okay... I'm not great at keeping my terminology straight, but here's what I'm pondering these days...
AT 36,
I'm battling male pattern baldness.. nice open patch on the crown of my head... while friends and loved ones think
nothing of it... I can't help but worry about what the final look is going to be.. I'll wind up shaving my head or
doing the Jean Luc Picard thing!
So... do pheromones result in an increase of natural testosterone? If so, will
that not result in an increase in DHEA, thus lending to even more rapid hair loss??!!
I've been using
pheromones for almost 2 years now! Over time my bald/thin spot has increased from the size of a quarter to looking
like a yamulka!...not within two years... more like over the span of ten....
I love using pheromones... I'm not
getting hot and horny women all over me but it is helping in my career.... but if it's increasing the speed and
extent of my hair loss... it just might be I'm going in the wrong direction... I have enough natural charm and
charisma to make it through life without pheromones... just being typically North American I'm willing to throw
money at taking the easiest path....
Let me know what any of my esteemed fellow forum members think.
Thanks
for your insight.
I've been using them for
about 6 years now (53 year old male) and not noticed any sign of balding.
I think you are one of the
lucky ones...
Now don't get me wrong. I don't think pheromones cause baldness. I'm just wondering if, for
those of us genetically vulnerable to male pattern baldness, if usage will excelerate our ever thinning path (pun
intended!).
I'm interested in how this effects things at the biochemical level.
I'm even considering
trying propecia to offset but the cost is prohibitive and you have to use it for the rest of your life... when you
stop, everything rapidly goes back to bald...
I haven't ever researched this,
but considering the amounts involved I think it is extremely unlikely to be of any significance.
The main
hormone usually associated with MPB is DHT which is a metabolite of testosterone. I'm not sure if there is even an
enzymatic route to DHT from any of the mones, but like I mention above, I've never looked for one.
Tht's the term I was trying to
remember.. not DHEA but DHT.
it boosts your testosterone
ever-so-slightly that it wouldnt have an affect on you hair at all. it probably boosts your testosterone the same
as if you touched a steroid.
I did a quick search just now,
and found only the most tenuous link:
Eg: Androsterone can convert to Androstanedione via enzyme
3a-HSD
Androstanedione can then convert to Dihydotestosterone via enzyme 17b-HSD
The levels of DHT here would
be miniscule (probably much less than derived from testosterone by exercise or or having sex etc).
Another thing
to bear in mind also is that DHT is (despite what popular prejudice would have you believe) is not the actual
culprit of MPB. DHT is in many ways a healthy hormone with a bad rep. It gets blamed for MPB, prostate enlargement
etc. It really isn't the bad guy here. As is usually the case, it is a combination of circumstances.
Hair loss
(MPB) happens way downstream from DHT, as it is essentially an immune response. Much better would be to inhibit
Caspase 3,9 or TGF-b1 locally at the hair follicle rather than inhibit DHT systemically (I say this as a multi-year
user of finasteride and more recently dutasteride). To inhibit DHT would be like to cut off the fuel supply to your
car engine because it is doing poor mileage per gallon. It can never completely cure the problem without majorly
compromising the vehicle/body.
In summary: I wouldn't deprive myself of pheromones for MPB purposes any more
than I'd avoid lettuce for fear of weight gain.
I'm happy to expand on any of the above but I think we're a
little off topic in this particular forum.
Regards
Shiver
EDIT:
PS. The pheromones are topical and
without a transdermal carrier (meaning minimal systemic absorbtion). Perhaps you could ask a BDC rep to chime in
here as this is their field of expertise. I'm sure they could alay your concerns far better than I.
Last edited by Shiver; 09-08-2004 at 03:01 AM. Reason: Addendum
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