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    Default Pheromone usage and hair loss?

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    Okay... I'm not great at keeping my terminology straight, but here's what I'm pondering these days...

    AT 36,

    I'm battling male pattern baldness.. nice open patch on the crown of my head... while friends and loved ones think

    nothing of it... I can't help but worry about what the final look is going to be.. I'll wind up shaving my head or

    doing the Jean Luc Picard thing!

    So... do pheromones result in an increase of natural testosterone? If so, will

    that not result in an increase in DHEA, thus lending to even more rapid hair loss??!!

    I've been using

    pheromones for almost 2 years now! Over time my bald/thin spot has increased from the size of a quarter to looking

    like a yamulka!...not within two years... more like over the span of ten....

    I love using pheromones... I'm not

    getting hot and horny women all over me but it is helping in my career.... but if it's increasing the speed and

    extent of my hair loss... it just might be I'm going in the wrong direction... I have enough natural charm and

    charisma to make it through life without pheromones... just being typically North American I'm willing to throw

    money at taking the easiest path....

    Let me know what any of my esteemed fellow forum members think.

    Thanks

    for your insight.

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    I've been using them for

    about 6 years now (53 year old male) and not noticed any sign of balding.

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    I think you are one of the

    lucky ones...


    Now don't get me wrong. I don't think pheromones cause baldness. I'm just wondering if, for

    those of us genetically vulnerable to male pattern baldness, if usage will excelerate our ever thinning path (pun

    intended!).

    I'm interested in how this effects things at the biochemical level.

    I'm even considering

    trying propecia to offset but the cost is prohibitive and you have to use it for the rest of your life... when you

    stop, everything rapidly goes back to bald...

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    I haven't ever researched this,

    but considering the amounts involved I think it is extremely unlikely to be of any significance.

    The main

    hormone usually associated with MPB is DHT which is a metabolite of testosterone. I'm not sure if there is even an

    enzymatic route to DHT from any of the mones, but like I mention above, I've never looked for one.

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    Tht's the term I was trying to

    remember.. not DHEA but DHT.

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    it boosts your testosterone

    ever-so-slightly that it wouldnt have an affect on you hair at all. it probably boosts your testosterone the same

    as if you touched a steroid.

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    I did a quick search just now,

    and found only the most tenuous link:

    Eg: Androsterone can convert to Androstanedione via enzyme

    3a-HSD
    Androstanedione can then convert to Dihydotestosterone via enzyme 17b-HSD

    The levels of DHT here would

    be miniscule (probably much less than derived from testosterone by exercise or or having sex etc).

    Another thing

    to bear in mind also is that DHT is (despite what popular prejudice would have you believe) is not the actual

    culprit of MPB. DHT is in many ways a healthy hormone with a bad rep. It gets blamed for MPB, prostate enlargement

    etc. It really isn't the bad guy here. As is usually the case, it is a combination of circumstances.

    Hair loss

    (MPB) happens way downstream from DHT, as it is essentially an immune response. Much better would be to inhibit

    Caspase 3,9 or TGF-b1 locally at the hair follicle rather than inhibit DHT systemically (I say this as a multi-year

    user of finasteride and more recently dutasteride). To inhibit DHT would be like to cut off the fuel supply to your

    car engine because it is doing poor mileage per gallon. It can never completely cure the problem without majorly

    compromising the vehicle/body.

    In summary: I wouldn't deprive myself of pheromones for MPB purposes any more

    than I'd avoid lettuce for fear of weight gain.

    I'm happy to expand on any of the above but I think we're a

    little off topic in this particular forum.

    Regards

    Shiver

    EDIT:
    PS. The pheromones are topical and

    without a transdermal carrier (meaning minimal systemic absorbtion). Perhaps you could ask a BDC rep to chime in

    here as this is their field of expertise. I'm sure they could alay your concerns far better than I.
    Last edited by Shiver; 09-08-2004 at 03:01 AM. Reason: Addendum

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