SOE and TE usage

[keglius]

Hi!
I've just

received my order of SOE and TE and also some SOE gel packs. Since AE/m never worked for me, I'm going to report

here everything when I use SOE and TE.
First question, how much should I use SOE ? I don't know how much should

I roll ? And how to measure those dosages correctly?

I'm going to try SOE tomorrow for the first time

because I'm meeting a really cute girl. Since we're on our way to a deep relationship, I'll try SOE first. But I

need to know how much should I use? Or maybe SOE gel pack would be better ? Half or even full gel pack ?

And

how about TE ? I don't want to start mixing it with SOE at first, so I'll try this product alone. How much dabs

would be good to start ? I've heard somewhere that 2 or more would be good?

Any advice appreciated!
Thank

you!

[canivaro]

My short experience with half

gel packs of SoE and Edge gel packs: SoE alone will get girls hair flipping and Edge alone will keep them crossing

their legs over and over.

Try half SoE gel pack alone and see what happens.

[Zeus]

I just ordered the Edge and hope to

get it soon. The Edge is supposed to have secret pheromone ingredients that give it more of a sexual intonation.



The edge is a spray, how would you measure it in dabs?

Keep us posted.

[keglius]

canivaro: thanks for your reply.

I'll try today a half gel pack of SOE and will report everything here.

Zeus: The edge is a spray, but you

can take off that atomizer and dab it.

Any suggestions about using roll on SOE ? How should I measure those

rolls ?

[canivaro]

Keep us informed Keglius.

I

definitely need to buy me a bottle of The Edge. I love how well the free sample Edge gel pack has worked for me.

Sexual energy....

[Pancho1188]

SOE is measured in

inches...anywhere from 2" to 6" is a good start, but people differ. I typically use 2-4" per application.

[flash20]

Hi all,

I have much the same

question, so that's why I'm posting here. I have just recieved my trial TE and SOE (unscented) gel packs and am

wondering how much people recommend using. I know it varies from person to person, but a general idea would be

appreciated, cause I'm not going to have any chance to really trial it out before a 21st next week, and I really

think that would be a good place to trial it but I don't want to OD.
Secondly, what cover colognes do people

recommend. I currently have Aqua de Gio and Tommy, anyone used these or know if they'd work.

Cheers



Flash20

[keglius]

Here's my report for

yesterday:

I've put half of SOE gel pack on me. Mostly on the chest, but also behind ears, on wrists and on

the neck. It was about 4 PM here and I went downtown to meet one babe (I'm 18 years old and she's almost 18 too).

While going to the downtown by bus I didn't notice anything unusual. Before the meeting that girl I entered one

chocolate shop to buy some of chocolate candies. The girl who worked there was really nice and chatty, but I don't

know if this was caused by SOE, because I've visited that shop for the first time. While on my way to the meeting

place with that girl, I counted about 4 eye contacts from other unknown girls. Nothing unusual or out of the

ordinary.
I met that girl at 5 PM. We've been together untill 9 PM. She was chatty, but I don't know if mones

were involved here also. She is always chatty. I haven't noticed any significant signs of SOE working. No hair

fliping, nothing out of the ordinary. I haven't noticed any "air sniffing" or "sniffing me" things. We've ended

our date at 9 PM. I went home. On my way to the bus stop, I've met my class girl friend with her other girl friend.

She was also chatty and very happy to see me, but I don't know if SOE was involved here since she's always chatty.

We're pretty good friends with her in school.
But the most interesting thing I've noticed that yesterday I

received more eye contacts than usual. I've counter about ~14 eye contacts with different girls. And the last 10

eye contacts were after I ended my date with the first babe. However, I receive 2-10 eye contacts everytime I go to

the downtown for a walk, so I don't know if yesterday was a very good day for me or SOE was working.Those last 10

eye contacts were counted about 5-6 hours from the SOE application. So I don't know if SOE was working then...

I've heard that most guys reports hits for the first 3-4 hours. Anyway, after my date I was very happy... So I had

a big smile on my face. One girl that I met with my class girl friend commented it - "You have such a big smile. You

smile like an American, not European. Because Europeans don't smile so much like you do! This is a compliment, keep

it going!" (I live in Europe). I had a pretty good evening yesterday. And here's the most interesting part. I came

back home at 11 PM. I took off my clothes (my t-shirt). I didn't noticed any increased chattyness from my family

members. But about 20-30 minutes later I thought I would write a report for yesterday in this forum. I turned on my

PC, but I felt soooooo tired that I could barely type anything and it was only 11:30 PM. This was strange! I've

gone to bed at 11:45 PM. And this morning I got up only at 11:30 AM . This was really strange! I never sleep so much

even on holidays. So maybe SOE really hit me with this one (I have put most gel on my chest) ?
Any thoughts would

be welcome!

[keglius]

Report for today: I've used

whole SOE gel pack today... and nothing to report. Nothing out of the ordinary or significant

[keglius]

Report for today: I've used 1/3

of SOE gel pack ... Nothing happened out of the ordinary.

AE/m doesn't work for me... It seems like SOE

doesn't work for me too... So what the heck works for me?!?!?!

Any suggestions what should I try ? I have a

full bottle of SOE + 2 gel packs and a full bottle of TE.

[bjf]

edge and soe together.

[eric_pelletier_tw]

Well im waitin for a

btle of SoE ill keep ya posted ... first time at 'mones tho. Any dosage recomendation? pickup lines?? :P

[Zeus]

Yeah the Nol in the SOE should

balance out with the NONE in the TE and AE/m.

It is COMPLETELY IMPOSIBLE (to my knowledge) to overdose on NOL.

[keglius]

Report for today: I've used TE/m

2 dabs... Nothing happened

[eric_pelletier_tw]

Im still waiting

[fedex 5 days] for a btle of SoE is that a spray or just a concentrate
i was kinda hoping i could turn that into a

spray ... disolved about 1/2 to see how much exacly i have to put on ...

also that OD efect "conversion" must be

becose you sweated a bit [not meaning dripping sweat just regular day sweat] that contains 'mones !! so mixed with

the rest i supose you kinda ODed

what should i use if i want to disolve SoE? water or alcool ? suppose water

should do fine any hint ?

[Zeus]

Fedex 5 days? You had to pay extra

for 5 day shipping? Well its ok i guess if you live in another country of course. What is SOE naturally disolved in?

Oil? They have oils on the site you can purchase.

[keglius]

Report for today: 7:30 AM applied

4 dabs of TE. Nothing happened. 3:15 PM applied 5' of SOE. Nothing happened...

Is it possible that

pheromones do not work for me at all ? Like I've mentioned, I've used AE/m without results. Now I don't get any

hits from SOE and still don't see anything when using TE... Someone had same experience ?

This really pisses

me off... I'm a believer in pheromones, but nothing seems to be working for me yet

[top_dawwgs]

Like Chikara or Perception? Id have to say give those 2 a try from what ive heard. Ive only

used Chikara but ive been very impressed.

[ManBeast]

Where are you expecting to get

these hits? What situations are you putting yourself into? Sometimes the "hit" doesn't really occur until after you

break the ice as well.

MB

[top_dawwgs]

I understand what ur

saying. But i put it on in the morning and just go about my day. Go to school and girls are staring. Went to a

convenient store... and this girl walked by me and just had a huge smile and rubbed up against me. these within a

one week period too. I sometimes forget I even have the scents on. Sure makes u feel good. Gives you more

confidence.

[Zeus]

Dam right it makes you feel good. I

dont know how many chicks iv made wet in the last week alone

Its kinda funny when some of um are tryin to

pretend that ur not DAM FRICKEN HOT and try not to stare at you. Of course your like the hottest cutest guy theyv

ever seen in person and they cant help themselves to peek at you every couple secs. Eventually there clit's just

gunna be beggin for mercy as she trys to rape you before you can getaway!

[canivaro]

Saturday night, I was out with

my family at Denny's. I suspect the server felt nervous or something, perhaps because me, that she dropped my soda

on me as she was about to set it down on the table. She also gave everyone at my table eye contact except me,

strange. Hmm... also, a chick who was sitting far far away was with her boyfriend and I couldn't help notice but

her looking at me various time. She was also wearing short shorts and then I suspect after she noticed me she kinda

lied down sideways with both her legs facing me(sexy!) on booth rather than sitting straight like a real gal. I was

2 dabs(not drops) of AEm, btw.

But Sunday, Monday, and today, I have not noticed any hits. Buildup perhaps. Imma

drop p-mone usage for a day or two.

But I must say my self-confidence has skyrocketed in the past week. I'm

always thinking "Damn I got the goods on, and I know you girls are so tempted to look at the irresistable me. Come

get me babies because I'm not."

Keglius, don't give up. Don't rely on p-mones to give you the hits but

believe that you are super special and that you got the goods on and you'll notice special attention from others.



Later.

[Zeus]

Uh yeah i get constant crazy ass

hits but iv never really said anything like that to myself... Lol

[keglius]

Hey! Report for today: nothing to

report as always I've tried today 6 dabs of TE/m. Nothing seemed to happen.

Guys, I've been reading

this forum since last October and I've been very interested in this stuff... I thought if these mones work for all

these guys, so why shouldn't they work on me ?

The first product I've tried was AE/m... I've tried from 1

to maybe 10 drops... I've tried dabbing, but I didn't notice anything. I thought maybe AE/m is just not for me.

Then I've bought SOE/m and TE/m. I've been testing them for a week now and didn't notice any results at all.


I read here that most of the guys report success from first few applications. I've tried SOE gel packs - half

of pack, full of pack and 1/3 of pack and nothing seemed to happen. No hair flipping, no increased chattyness or

sexual signs from girls. I've even tried rolling SOE under my nose... I don't feel any relaxation or confidence

boost.
I read here many guys report themselves having success within first try of new mones... And this just

really bothers me...
If pheromones work for everyone, why they do not work for me?!?!
Anyway, I won't give

up now... Tomorrow I will try 8 dabs of TE. Then I'll try to spay it with atomizer... I will see how it go.
Last

friday I was on the date with one hot girl. Since then we're a couple. I've used pheromones last few dates and I

didn't notice anything from her. She was the same like on those dates when I didn't use pheros... So I guess that

they do not worked then ...

Wish me a good luck... I will need it.

[Traggard]

Keglius, I would not put to much trust in several of the “instant hit posts”. There are a number of possible

explanations for the very different results people get.

a)

Many hit stories are made by pheromone companies. Some one countered this point with that the IP numbers are

different between the posters. But that does not prove anything – they could easily access the internet from

different internet cafés.

b) The placebo effect. If

you get more confidence from using pheromones you will get hits no matter if the pheromones work or not. Confidence

= better body language = more hits.

c) They are more

observant thus looking for hits all the time, hit that would have occurred anyway but that they did miss before

using mones.

d) Some unknown factor that makes

pheromones only work for certain people, even if you apply them to clothing.





We do not know what the truth is. But a combination of a) b) and c) is my

bet.

[ManBeast]

*Sigh* I thought I was paranoid

about bullshit advertising....
Yes... I was skeptic too, but honestly... I've noticed changes at this point in

people I know... that had gotten used to my old pheromone signature. Yes.. my overall confidence is growing day by

day, but some of the behaviors and reactions are just way off "normal" for the people I'm interacting with, both

male and female. Unless it's pure coincidence that these changes started happening just as I recieved the `mones.



There really has to be more to the story if there are absolutely no reactions towards your pheromone use. How

long have you known this "hot girl? Also how far away are you expecting to get "hits" I only tend to get them within

about 3-7 feet of me at most, probalby because I use very light applications and want to keep the effects to myself

and not "share" them with everyone in the room. So this means that I have to initiate a first contact of some sort,

catch her eye without the `mones before I can "move in" and let them work their magic.

[Pancho1188]

I apologize beforehand if any

of this is written with an attitude for I'm upset with someone and it may seep into my postings. Please no one take

offense...maybe I'll just edit this posting later when I'm not so worked up...

Keglius, I would not put to much trust in several of the “instant

hit posts”. There are a number of possible explanations for the very different results people

get.

Yes, there are. In fact, there are more than what's on your list. It's been discussed

numerous times. There's nothing new to any of this. Skeptics can simply run a search. Hell, I'll save you the

trouble. I've written on this:

http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showpost.php?p=129

703&postcount=64

I've written more, but that's the most convenient one...

a) Many hit stories are made by pheromone

companies. Some one countered this point with that the IP numbers are different between the posters. But that does

not prove anything – they could easily access the internet from different internet cafés.

If

there is any of that going on for this site, then Bruce, the owner, doesn't know about it. This is a question of

ethics and character, and although I can't speak for most people's character, I can try to speak for Bruce's as

I've been here long enough to know that he's done many ethical things in the past even if it means his own

inconvenience. We also have pheromone manufactures who speak on this site, and they identify themselves as such and

like to hear feedback on their products. In fact, many recommend products other than their own...whether that's

sincerity or a marketing ploy I'll leave to you to decide, but I take it as a sign of good will. BDC and DST make

Perception and Pheros, respectively, and I haven't heard much hype about either's product after the initial

(to quote Marilyn Manson), "This is the new sh*t!" posts that let everyone know that the stuff is ready for sale.

Since then, they've let other people do the talking...sure, a lot of it is good, but some people report no

results...such is life.

It's a double-standard that one could say that most of these posts are fake without

proof and yet not believe that they are true without proof...

b) The placebo effect. If you get more confidence from using pheromones you will get

hits no matter if the pheromones work or not. Confidence = better body language = more

hits.

I'd pay $100 for 'instant confidence', wouldn't you? Then, when you find out it's

yourself, then you don't need it anymore. You saved a bunch of money, and Bruce just gave you a shot of

self-esteem. Good for you.

c) They are more

observant thus looking for hits all the time, hit that would have occurred anyway but that they did miss before

using mones.

If you'd miss, "Can I have your number? I think you're hot," then you're

pretty blind. Otherwise, this is true. People on this forum learn a lot about what to look for than before they made

their purchase. Anyone listening to Friendly has learned a lot about body language.

d) Some unknown factor that makes pheromones only

work for certain people, even if you apply them to clothing.

It's called the "People are

different" factor. No one is the same, and therefore nothing works for everyone the same way. You don't wear the

same clothes that I do, yet we both go on living and socializing. We could wear the same clothes and you could look

good and I don't. We could wear the same -mones and I could get hits and you don't. People somehow think that

because it's a product that attracts people that it's supposed to magically work for everybody on everybody, when

those expectations are just as irrational as thinking that one pickup line will work on every girl you meet.

We do not know what the truth is. But a combination of a) b) and

c) is my bet.

I'm ignoring A because I know a lot of the people on this site that do the

reporting...this is more of a community than most sites. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there are people trying to make up

stuff to look good. Like I said, Bruce doesn't know about it if it happens. I believe he has banned members in that

past that he believed to be posting fraudulent hit reports...

B is true. It's very true, but I still believe

that it still produces the desired effect, so who's to complain? C is also true to some extent, but think about all

of the desperate people out there looking for any sign that someone likes them...I highly doubt that anyone

would be missing that many opportunities unless the educational material from this forum assisted them in reading

body language. In other words, anyone desperate would read signals more. Anyone not desperate is probably doing well

in the ladies department and can pick up these signals. D is true except for the fact that it isn't an unknown

factor. People are different. Everyone knows that, but everyone forgets it at the same time when searching for a

miracle. There are many more factors, and everyone is welcome to 'search' if they want to read about them...

[Traggard]

Yes I think Bruce is honest and ethical. It is the companies that produce the actual products that I am

suspicious about.

[oscar]

Traggard,

What about me,

Traggard?
Are you suspicious of ME too?
Go ahead. Honest answer. It won't get you banned. Guaranteed.

Oscar

[InternationalPlayboy]

Many

hit stories are made by pheromone companies. Some one countered this point with that the IP numbers are different

between the posters. But that does not prove anything – they could easily access the internet from different

internet cafés.

? Are you suggesting that the manufacturers are masquerading

as regular users here? In other words, using the handle registered to someone else to post their "fake" hits? As I

understand it, the names here are password protected, so they would have to have access to the password to

impersonate someone else here.

I think only the admins here have access to the IP numbers of the posters. If

one would check, I have at least two different ones under my name. I post from work and also from home. In fact,

there are probably more than two IP#s as I use a dialup at home so it will change each time I connect to the

Net.

Hey! Report for today: nothing to report as always I've tried today 6 dabs of TE/m.

Nothing seemed to happen.

I have yet to see anything I could call a hit with TE or NPA. All those

products have done for me so far is make me easily irritable when in public and self-conscious. Now there may be

hits, but they won't be very obvious when I'm fighting a scowl on my face and telling myself to

"maintain."

Chikara is another story though. I'm starting to feel naked when I don't wear that. The others

that I have seen results with are WAGG and SOE, in that order. I'm still testing Perception* and only wear it on

weekends. The big test for that one will be next month when I'm on vacation in a bigger city which is also a resort

area. As I tend to be introverted and keep to myself, which probably puts out a "lone wolf" vibe, and I can get

irritated in crowds without none, that's probably why Chikara, WAGG, and SOE work better for me.

*There was

one instance with Perception the first weekend I wore it, where a woman stared at me with eyes so big I thought they

were going to pop out of her head. I wondered why she was staring at me like she was almost afraid, then I realized

it must have been the Perception.