Reply With QuoteMaybe those two girls did not
like you or your game was no good. Man you should not think that by wearing AE every chick is going to spread her
legs and sleep with you.
AE/m has no effect
I just did
not notice any kind of changes in the surrounding people while wearing it. Last night I approached 2 girls, both
times got rejected, one didn't even want to talk to me, well, she perhaps said 3 words and mostly nodded or
gestured the other one was really nice, but when I asked her out I was shocked by and how quickly she gestured
'no' suggesting at the same time to meet at the same place when it reopens (the club was closing for holiday - for
ONE MONTH!!!). I muttered something like - but that's... uhh... *gulp* have a nice evening.
She was as close
to me as possible, because of loud music her lips almost touching my ears while she was talking and considering the
fact that I put a good dab of AE/m under each earlobe, she must have smelled it, I therefore gather it had no affect
on her.
I have tried differend doses, but in general I would dab under my earlobes, under my chin, two drops
on the chest which I would smear with the wrist of one hand and then rub the other wrist with it. I wear no
additional perfume/cologne.
So what do you think?
Maybe those two girls did not
like you or your game was no good. Man you should not think that by wearing AE every chick is going to spread her
legs and sleep with you.
Last edited by Don Tego; 07-11-2004 at 12:23 PM.
red caliente.
I never expected that in
the first place, but I did expect it would give me some edge.
Even if the pheromones are indeed
working on a particular female, it won't necessarily reverse her decision making.
If this was at a club don't take it
personally, some women get approached and hit on a lot. They can afford to be picky in those situations. They just
weren't interested in you and I don't think any amount of Pheromones would help. Yes it does give you a edge but
if women sense you're nervous or not secure in yourself you already lost.
"You made three mistakes. 1. You took the job. 2. A 4 man crew to catch me, f***ing insulting. 3. You didn't pack enough weapons."- Riddick "The Chronicles of Riddick"
It is not necessarily about the guy,
either. It can have more to do with the women, and the fact that she just isn't looking.
MIA,
There are a lot of
potential explanations. I think you can prove it to yourself one way or the other whether the stuff works for you
or not. Just keep at it; stay cool; work on your game as you go along and see how the big picture develops. You
can always get your money back if it doesn't seem to be making any difference as time goes by. Don't worry about
that. Just chill and give it your best shot.
Bruce
MIA: kinda sounds like those
girls were on a "lets mess with guys and get drinks" mission (very common around this town... not sure on others to
be honest). But the "lets meet back in a month" might have been a very mild hit from that one... So I wouldn't
quite say nothing happened IMHO, but I wasn't there. Best of luck in the future.
MB
"You are a sick f*ck, but I wouldn't have you any other way."
~Becca
Well, I've been using my
A/E-m for a few days now as well. I have gone to 4 different parties, and to the bars twice and not noticed a
single "hit".I've tried everything from 2 drops, to 4 drops, to even 5 once...still nothing nothing and nothing.
Hasn't worked for me either.
I
haven't been able to get any positive results with AE either. I have gotten some good feedback from SOE scented and
a few other pheromone products that are sold by another company. I wouldn't give up with just one try though. I
have pretty much chucked AE TE and NPA. AE is a standalone but TE and NPA smell like shit and I don't like doing
the cover scent thing cause I never can seem to get a good ratio between the cover and the mones and when the cover
wears off I end up smelling like cat piss.
That's right.Originally Posted by bjf
First Impressions, and What Determines Them
Pheromones do not most often govern first impressions, which are key for your romantic and sexual
prospects. In order to use pheromones effectively, you have to get past first impressions successfully. Otherwise
the -mones usually don't even come into play. Internal attitude, mood, what you're willing to give, having a grip
on social reality; internal expectations, what you're thinking about, whether you've worked out; and how you're
dressed are factors that stand in between a woman and your mones' effect. These factors determine the "glint in
your eye", which is the primary cause of a first impression. There are too many factors to fake,
unfortunately. But the key to mastering them, if they don't come naturally, is meticulous, analytical, objective
self awareness and introspection. That is different than evaluative (judgements of good/bad) self-consciousness,
BTW. You must be aware what you are presenting and why; be aware of the social reality; and be aware of the other
person's situation in order to have enough information to manage the impression you give. You just need to take a
look at it. It is not just a matter of "acting confident," as a lot of young men here think. Acting confident can
often be worse than acting neutral. Rather than act confident, focus on what you feel is going on that
underlies your confidence level (or, even better, the overall first impression you are helping to create) at
the moment; and attend to it somehow. If you are at least trying to attend to these real issues; if you are
aware of them and grappling with them; it will come across as increased confidence or comfort in your own
skin (which is every bit as good as confidence for succeeding with women).The glint in your eye doesn't
lie.
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DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
Guys...guys...whoa slow
down...It never ceases to amaze me that the first thing people new to mones do is ramp up their dosage level if they
feel its not working adequately or to their expectations. MIA...try going without for a few days...then try just
one drop of AE...Maybe 2 if you go clubbing..AE is a stealthy mone...its not so "club you over the head" like NPA or
PI...an analogy is like if your drinking a drink thats mixed real well, where you cant hardly taste the alcohol &
you're just chugging them down, then all of a sudden you notice the room is spinning...Also AE is definetly a mone
product that you have to put on & forget you're wearing it, put it out of your mind...the more you focus on it, the
harder it will be for it to work its magic. MattUNI2001, Jason etc...I dont know how old you guys are, but if
you're young, you've really got to take it easy on the none because you're probably producing quite a bit of your
own and really have to put that stuff on in moderation or it will backfire...I think its why Jason said he had
gotten some good reactions with the SOE...which is a good product for the lone wolf, Clint Eastwood crowd...I never
forget my first hit with AE: I was never all that impressed with it either when I was first trying it out...then
one day I had to take a day off from work to take care of some issues at the local DMV (Dept of Motor
Vehicles)...well you know what a pain that is...anyway after I had finally made it through the line, I was sitting
on one of the benches waiting for my turn at the teller window when I spied a very attractive dark haired young
woman who to my amazement after she had gotten through the line, plunked her cute little butt right down next to
mine, even though there were plenty of other seats available. I struck up a friendly small talk type of
conversation with her & wanted to ask her out but let my insecurities get the best of me...I wanted to kick myself
after for passing up a perfectly good opportunity. But it was definetly one of my first hits...
Excellent posts, guys! I
realized before that pheros are not going to deliver hits like in Axe commercials, but still I expected more which
turned out to be too much. Every person in the world has his/her own criteria by which he/she chooses a partner,
some give more stress to visual appearance, some to intellectual, some are turned on by long hair, some are turned
off by them, so I guess pheros are just one of the cans in the carton.
My theory is also, that one should
function harmonically, so if pheros are telling a woman 'this is an alpha male that will f*ck your brains out' and
you look afraid of her and apologize all the time, and act desperately and wimpy in general, I would say it is safe
to bet that any dosage of any kind of mix of pheros will not work, it would just be confusing and potentially
frightening to a woman.
Thinking back I did make some mistakes, mostly the way I was leading the
conversation. I have yet to test AE/m in a more friendly environment than a noisy crowded club or a pub. I have not
yet given up on AE.
No flame intended, but if you had done a bit research on
the forum you would have read that exact "theory".
Hm... well, I did some
research even before I registered, and kind of forgot that I read that, and adopted this 'theory' for my own.
Well, after extensive
testing I can pretty safely say that if there are any effects of AE/M they must be subtle enough for anyone to
notice. Currently I'm waiting for my bottle of Amouage and I'll take it from there. And unless 20 guys are going
to say that some pheromone mix worked for them while they weren't even paying attention to the girls, I ain't
buying pheros again. Sorry.
Also, I met the girl again in the same club. I 'didn't notice' her for a half an
hour while I am certain she noticed me as we were a couple of feet away, and she didn't start talking to me. I
decided then I didn't care anymore. I got sort of bumped into her (crowdy place) turned around and said she looks
familiar. She said we've met at this place. What? Really, we've met here? Oh, yeah, now I remember, you're uhh...
what was your name again? Reverse psychology didn't work either, not to mention the pheros.
MIA have you ever tried Scent Of
Eros? That seems to make people friendlier and chatty. I've never had an outrageous sexual hit but I have noticed
that with the SOE girls are a lot friendlier. It seems to have an effect on younger women in particular. You may
want to give it a try.
I, 43 beta male, have used AE
on and off for about 2 years. I have allways used two drops on my neck and wrists, 4 total covered with Lagerfeld.
Sledgehammer like results on woman 40+ in "date" situations, almost guaranteed over 45. No results under 40, no
Dihls. Over 4 drops and it seems like Im picking fights with alpha males. I think certain products work better on
different age groups of woman. I stopped using it to experiment with other products seeking to find a more
consistent "hit" on 35 to 45 females....
So I guess I bought AE/m
two decades too soon. If it is true, that certain phero products work on certain age groups, which one works for
20-25?
I use a combination of Chikara and NPA (2 sprays and 1 dab respectively). I'm
20 and I get consistent results with the younger crowd. Try those two together and start with light doses. The
heavier doses have not worked at all for me with young girls (19-22). And for that matter, AE/m was a bust for me
as well. Just send it back in, get your refund, then get Chikara and NPA or TE. Just remember that you have to be
willing to experiment with everything and most importantly, you have to be observant when you have pheromones on and
when you have them off to know what kind of results you're getting.
She gives you a major hit and it passes right over your
head. Not a good sign for you, my friend.
You sound as if you are struggling with serious disbelief, and
therefore are expecting unreasonable results in order to prove your judgement correct.
What are your real
expectations for pheromones? What is it that you think SHOULD happen if the pheromones really work.
Everyone,
please give MIA a chance to reply in his own words before piping in.
No disrepect intended,
Friendly, but I feel compelled to reiterate;
Regardless of this, MIA, it would be helpful
to all of us if we understood what kind of reactions you expected pheremones to give you.
WASSUP!!!!!
I am more concerned about the
guys who want to try to offer explanations or analysis before MIA can provide us with some more details. Asking
questions is helpful.
Um... The kind of
reactions I would sort of expect are that the girl would show interest in continuing the conversation, like that she
really wants to talk to me not like that I have to lead the conversation, think of questions and stuff to tell as
she would just close the topics or better said, fade them out. I'm not sure I was clear enough, so I'll add
another perspective. When a girl is really interested in you, she wants to stay close to you, she's observing you,
secretely or not, and she wants to talk to you, you all know what this feels like... when she's not interested in
you, she can be rude and half-ignore you, go away, return to some other spot in the club, extensively talk to other
people and barely say a yes or a no when you talk to her. A woman can have no interest in you, but still be polite
enough to quite normally talk to you.
Friendly, the 'What? Really?.....' part was said by me. Also, I wasn't
the least bit nervous, perhaps a little insecure, but I don't think there was a way of telling this. The way I see
it, the ball was again clearly on her court and she let it slide. I hope I'm wrong though. Anyways I'm sure it
wasn't the last time I've seen her. So, make suggestions, I'm willing to try whatever you think might work.
Next time I'll be wearing Amouage gold (got it today - love the smell, although it does smell a bit feminine) and
AE/m, it can't hurt, I guess.
Hello,
well, my suggestion is to
concentrate on other women! Maybe you are just not "her" type of guy. If that is the case ( I hope for you it's not
),
no pheromone product in the world will change that. At the most you will appear less unattractive to her.
When she behaved like you described it, she isn't worth the trouble at all!
So keep your eyes open!
Regards
Ingo
If you are a totally boring
drip, pheromones are not going to change you. So, assuming one is a total bore, as soon as he opens his mouth, the
guy will shoot himself down and the pheromonically enticed girl will lose interest and move on.
I am not saying
that YOU are a drip, but you ARE responsible for keeping the girl interested. That is NOT what pheromones do.
Can't tell for sure, since you have shared fewFriendly, the 'What? Really?.....' part was said by me. Also, I wasn't the least bit nervous, perhaps a
little insecure, but I don't think there was a way of telling this. The way I see it, the ball was again clearly on
her court and she let it slide. I hope I'm wrong though.
details. But you clearly missed a major hit as I noted previously. So far, it sounds to me like you don't know
what to do once you have engaged the girl.
You still have to lead. You have to be that man she is looking for.
She doesn't want to be him for you. Until you are comfortable with that part of the equation, I cannot think of
any advice to give you.
You just might go the
right direction with this, but dude, I can hear when a girl clicks on me. I don't have to think what to say or ask,
I just talk, no wait, WE just talk, it's not like it never happened. With some girls I just can't maintain the
conversation (disregarding pheros) no matter what subjects I pick, and believe me, I am resourceful, have
imagination and sense of humor, have no problem talking perverse.
Oh well, shite, maybe I really am a drip.
Well, if you keep testing the pheromones and share details of what happens with
us, we may be able to conclude something other than that you are a drip.
Right now, I know so little about you
and what is happening with you and the girls that I cannot conclude anything.
If you have game, pheromones
should help you improve it. You may have tried the wrong pheromone product for that.
If you don't have game,
pheromones should help you find more opportunities to develop it.
You still may have tried the wrong product.
But I cannot tell what you are really expecting, much less seeing. You need to provide some more details. But
let's go forward. Just let us know what happens next. Don't analyze it for us. Don't condense it for us. Give
us as much of a blow-by-blow account as you possibly can.
BINGO!!! Phereomones
will take someone with no game, and help him get more opportunities (i.e. girls wanting to talk in the first place),
but it won't make things happen. If you do have game, it will make it easier to play... That's all, nothing
magic.
But I also want to mention something I was taught as "The Balance Factor."
Which in a lot more words
comes down to "Know your own limitations." Which really applies to me in this town... I go away from here, and I'm
a pretty decent looking guy (got great hits from good looking girls before mones, whereas here the hits, if any,
were few and far between), but here I'm average at bets, and definitely not "in" when it comes to style (indie
rock, emo, and abercrombie are "cool" I'm a metalhead) but I know how to dress to go out and clean up well, and
`mones have REALLY improved my hits I can say... have I really been able to capitalize... not quite yet... I'm
working on it... I'm only living in this kingdom of debachery(sp?) for one more year!
MB
"You are a sick f*ck, but I wouldn't have you any other way.
~Becca
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