I got another question for BDC....how
do you prevent bacteria and mold from developing in the water base? You add a poison?
People have spoken of
a mildewy smell and I wonder if this is mold?
I got another question for BDC....how
do you prevent bacteria and mold from developing in the water base? You add a poison?
People have spoken of
a mildewy smell and I wonder if this is mold?
I can't speak for BDC's
products, but I do know that it would be awfully hard to have bacteria and mold develop in a water based mixture
simply due to a lack of nutrients. Bacteria needs food to replicate and there is little if any in a pure water
mixture.
Life is all about choices: "To avoid hitting the bumper of the car in front, I struck the pedestrian."
Please elaborate on your defnition of "corroded"...Originally Posted by Ingo
Bobby
The "mildew" smellOriginally Posted by bjf
reported by some is the smell of the polymer matrix. Once the applied pheromones dry the mildew smell goes away
completely.
Bobby
You are correct in that bacteria need nutrients to flourish...but...there is aOriginally Posted by BaseB3383
small amount of preservative in the formula.
Bobby
Hello,Originally Posted by Chemo (BDC Concepts)
well, as far as far I know sweat,
respectively the bacteria and fat acids in it, can harm ( corrode? ) the pheromones. Actually I don'tquite know
what would be the right word to use.
So the more you sweat the shorter the time they will be working.
Is that
correct at all?
Best regards
Ingo
Last edited by Indigo; 08-29-2004 at 10:21 AM.
OK...I see what you
mean now. The c. form bacterial conversion of pheromones.
Now, it should be stated here that I personally
don't believe in the conversion of alpha ring saturated species (such as nol, none, and rone) by c. form bacteria.
All the scientific literature studies the conversion of metabolites to active pheromones by this method. There is
no research to substantiate the deactivation of nol, none, or rone by c. form bacteria. I'm not one to step of the
toes of conventional wisdom and I welcome anyone to change my mind. With that said...
Let's assume that
I'm wrong (which I can be and am frequently). I'm going to reason through my final response to your
question.
First, the polymer matrix forms a sticky barrier between the pheromones and your skin. Now, it is
not sticky to the touch and only works for poly rings with the typical steroidal backbone. Think of it like super
glue for pheromones.
What the matrix is designed to do is hold the pheromones securely and release them at a
known rate. A side benefit is that it also SHOULD keep other things away from the pheromones. Of course, that is
out the window with the introduction of sweat as the bacteria will ride the wet waves to the pheromone mother land.
However, for those that don't sweat heavily during the day it should keep pheromones in and bacteria out.
In
addition, we have a small amount of preservative in the formula. We really had to toss that around the discussion
table as we didn't want to disrupt the natural production of the individual pheromone signature. It is our primary
focus to offer a product that is truly easy application and easy removal while minimizing the impact on natural
signature. We finally settled on a very good preservative that is also a mild bacteriostatic agent. This compound,
once driy, should hang around for about 6-8 hours all the while keeping bacteria at arms length (albeit, a very
small chemical arm). It will naturally dissipate before Perception wears off and keep the natural signature
signalling the world.
If all that weren't enough we also are the first in the world to use super pheromones
that possess the magical ability to resist bacterial conversion. It is magic to some but is actually a result of
months of intense training at our Kentucky self defense facility. We taught select pheromones to ward off the
unsolicited advances of the notoriously promiscuous c. form bacteria. They learned about high risk conversion
behaviors and are aware of the benefits of bacterial chastity. Finally, we equiped them with bacterial pepper spray
for the aggressive ones.
Hope that answer your question!
Bobby
BTW, that part about pepper
spray isn't true
Can theFirst, the polymer matrix
forms a sticky barrier between the pheromones and your skin. Now, it is not sticky to the touch and only works for
poly rings with the typical steroidal backbone. Think of it like super glue for pheromones.
pheromones be washed off easily or do you have to wait until the time release lets them all be released?
...and...
Do the pheros
wash off more readily when you sweat?
I imagine that they do (if the formula washes off more easily in general),
but does it make a noticable difference?
Originally Posted by BaseB3383
Actually if you look at any skinlotion or other similar products that have
water as an ingredient, there are usually preservatives added, for instance Sodium Benzoate (in liquid soaps) or
different types of paraben (Metylparaben, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Phenoxylethanol), since
microorganisms *do* like waterbased cosmetic products.
// w
Originally Posted by bjf
That's the beauty of the matrix! It holds securely while dry but when wet will wash off completely.
Have
you noticed this: when you first spray Perception there is a strong scent of pheromones. Then, as it dries you only
smell the faint scent of pheromones. That is the matrix drying and locking the pheromones to the skin for slow
release. If you sweat during the day you smell the pheromones a bit stronger. This is the matrix releasing it a
bit faster since it is wet.
With a shower, it will rinse completely away!
Bobby
Sweating willOriginally Posted by CptKipling
make a difference but how much is impossible to quantify...
Logic tells me that if one were to apply
Perception and sweat during the day the area of application will increase. Think of this like a drop of oil in a
puddle. It goes wherever there is water to the full area of the puddle.
Bobby
Alcohol evaporates in 10 minutes or so, so the water base won't make anyOriginally Posted by Ingo
difference. If anything the emulsifier should tend to slow down rates of breakdown/conversion slightly.
DrSmellThis (creator of P H E R O S)
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