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    Default BATTLE OF THE PHEROMONES! TE/SOE/Chikara/APC/WAGG arsenal vs. my 19yr girl roommate!!

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    long story short, i underestimated how

    much natural pheromones the average 19yr old girl produces on a daily basis. now that im living with one i find

    myself becoming easily aroused(and easily frustrated too)whenever she's walking around the apartment. most probably

    due to her natural pheromone buildup, i can smell a very strong and distinct 'odor' whenever she opens her door or

    finishes taking a shower(the odor doesn't smell good or bad, it's just really...potent). when i interviewed her i

    didn't notice this at all so i wasn't anticipating this to become a 'problem' for me...

    i usually

    only wear mones when i go out or when im with my gf so my supplies would last longer. but now that im in a situation

    where im being 'assulted' by a 19yr girl's natural pheromones on a daily basis i needed to arm myself even at

    home. and that's where things got interesting, i noticed that as soon as i started wearing mones at home my mood

    gradually became more stable and under control. it's almost as if my applied mones were sort of countering her

    natural mones and protecting me from the effects. so of course i started wearing more, as much as 5-6 sprays of TE

    sandlewood and arms full of SOE and 10 drops of WAGG, or 5 sprays of chikara by itself(chikara's scent is so

    special it can't be mixed with anything else) at any given time. and im starting to notice that im not so easily

    aroused by her smell anymore and that she's actually beginning to act more 'sheepish' around me. which im

    assuming is a positive sign and not an reaction to OD cuz i've experienced severe OD b4 and she's not showing any

    of the 'repelled' expression or the 'u make me uncomfotable' body languages.

    this is an

    intriguing observation for me as i always believed in the battle of the sexes but i never made the connetion that

    male and female pheromones can also battle and cancel the other party out...in a manner of speaking.
    oh well

    another example why mones and lovescent changed my life and why i'll most likely die if bruce stopped selling

    pheromone products hehe.

    anybody else ever notice this phenomenon?

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    ??? Why do you feel like you

    have to "counteract" this girl? If you wear mones on a regular basis, YOU may be the reason she is giving off

    more of her natural scent ... why don't you do something, uh, cuddly about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuddlebear
    ??? Why

    do you feel like you have to "counteract" this girl? If you wear mones on a regular basis, YOU may be the reason she

    is giving off more of her natural scent ... why don't you do something, uh, cuddly about it?
    really?

    why do u say that?
    also i only started wearing mones at home AFTER her natural mones began to overpower me. if i

    hadn't known about the science of mones i would've probably blindly concluded i was falling in love or

    something...haha

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    As I understand it, by virtue of

    the fact that you wear mones at all, your natural mone leves will be altered even days after the fact, which could

    cause a change in her mone levels as well especially if you spend a lot of time around each other. So you may have

    actually started the "war"! In any case, the fact that you recongize that her pheromones are having an effect on you

    does not make it any less "real". Remember, pheromones don't create feelings that aren't already there, they

    simply allow feelings to more easily surface, they don't create attraction, just facilitate it...this isn't mind

    control after all. So in other words, don't dismiss your reaction so easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbnbtc
    As I

    understand it, by virtue of the fact that you wear mones at all, your natural mone leves will be altered even days

    after the fact, which could cause a change in her mone levels as well especially if you spend a lot of time around

    each other. So you may have actually started the "war"! In any case, the fact that you recongize that her pheromones

    are having an effect on you does not make it any less "real". Remember, pheromones don't create feelings that

    aren't already there, they simply allow feelings to more easily surface, they don't create attraction, just

    facilitate it...this isn't mind control after all. So in other words, don't dismiss your reaction so

    easily.
    good point, i guess i'll never know for sure then, all i know is the battle is still waging.



    however i do have to disagree on the point of making the effects less 'real' once u realize what's

    going on, at least for me. cuz i was losing sleep at first when i was 'under the influence' of her natural mones

    and not wearing any of my own mones at home. once i made the connection and started 'protecting' myself i was

    able to relax and take control of my emotions again, recognizing at the same time that im not defenseless and can

    indeed put up a fight. (either render myself indifferent to her 'charms' or affect her in a similar way as her

    mones r doing to me)

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    I think this is a case of your

    olfactory/vno system adjusting to raised levels of mones (all the crap that you wear) and her natural mone levels

    just don't alert it like the synthetic ones do.

    The only time your gonna react or feel anything concious

    is at really high levels now.

    You can take a synthetic product and get adjusted to that as well. The first

    time many use things, they react stronger to it then they do in applications thereafter. I couldn't take a-1 the

    first time, and by the fourth time I was exposed, everything was normal. I've gotten adjusted to -none, -nol and

    te/w too. It never fully goes away because we are talking about mone levels that probably would not be found to

    often in nature, but in many cases with the reactions aren't as intense if the amount you are being exposed to

    remains the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    I think this is

    a case of your olfactory/vno system adjusting to raised levels of mones (all the crap that you wear) and her natural

    mone levels just don't alert it like the synthetic ones do.

    The only time your gonna react or feel anything

    concious is at really high levels now.
    hey that makes alot of sense! if that's even half true then im

    on the right track, cuz then my olfactory/vno system has become immune to the average natural mones level. which is

    a good thing since that gives the power back to me if im not controlled(as much) by these chemicals geneticically

    designed to scramble a man's brain...

    i guess the downside is that i need women with specially high pheromone

    output to turn me on. speaking of this i have noticed that i do not find average girls as attractive as i used to

    when i was in my early 20s. i always just thought it's because i have had a steady gf for a while and i've

    somehow trained my mind to ignore them. i see now that's not the case.

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    Your girlfriend allows you to

    have a girl roommate? Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetransform
    long

    story short, i underestimated how much natural pheromones the average 19yr old girl produces on a daily basis. now

    that im living with one i find myself becoming easily aroused(and easily frustrated too)whenever she's walking

    around the apartment. most probably due to her natural pheromone buildup, i can smell a very strong and distinct

    'odor' whenever she opens her door or finishes taking a shower(the odor doesn't smell good or bad, it's just

    really...potent). when i interviewed her i didn't notice this at all so i wasn't anticipating this to become a

    'problem' for me...
    This is understandable. I know from experiences in college, average

    looking girls look and seem more attractive than usual in close quarters. Using pheromones has helped me feel more

    in control of the powers of attraction as well, like I am doing the attracting instead of being at the mercy of

    another girl. Whatever helps you to cope, more power to you as long as you don't end up overcharging your credit

    card with pheromone purchases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaseB3383
    I know from

    experiences in college, average looking girls look and seem more attractive than usual in close quarters.

    it can also be the lack of hot girls that raises a 7 in normal setting to a 8 or so. i have a theory about that.

    basically hot girls don't go to college or if they do they go to ones with low standards.

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    Thank god my college has low

    standards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer77
    Your

    girlfriend allows you to have a girl roommate? Wow.
    yeah im quite surprised aswell that she didn't dump me

    when i told her i was gonna pick the 19yr old girl as my new roommate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Thank god my

    college has low standards!

    MB
    lucky for you lol. i really wish i went to a different college but

    this is my last year i'll deal with it. it's a total shock every weekend when i go back into real life and see so

    many hot girls.

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    See, you are the yin to my

    yang... Everytime I go home... I look around and go "yah, she's hot here, but she'd be about a 8.5 at my school"



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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    it can also be

    the lack of hot girls that raises a 7 in normal setting to a 8 or so. i have a theory about that. basically hot

    girls don't go to college or if they do they go to ones with low standards.
    So true, there's one thing

    you can say about girls that go to my school: At least they're smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    it can also be

    the lack of hot girls that raises a 7 in normal setting to a 8 or so. i have a theory about that. basically hot

    girls don't go to college or if they do they go to ones with low standards.
    That's ridiculous!




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    Average schools have better looking

    girls and better schools (Ivy League at least) have more average looking girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    Average schools

    have better looking girls and better schools (Ivy League at least) have more average looking girls.
    and

    this is because?

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    most good looking girls have too

    much going for them where they don't have to worry about school whereas the less good looking ones have to make

    sure they have a future by concentrating on their academics. basically a good looking girl can just marry about

    anybody she wants. that's just my little theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRock
    most good

    looking girls have too much going for them where they don't have to worry about school whereas the less good

    looking ones have to make sure they have a future by concentrating on their academics. basically a good looking girl

    can just marry about anybody she wants. that's just my little theory.
    Well, it ain't like that in my

    country (it's in western europe)... nothing like that, definitely! My university has some really hot girls and it

    is even told (by studants from other universities) to be the university with the hottest girls (I agree). And we

    have the higher medium marks... I mean, those who applied (with success) to study in my university had the higher

    medium marks of all country!

    So, these are beautiful, hot girls (said to be the best, in general) in the

    university that demands the higher medium marks for a studant to get there...

    Sorry my english...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetransform
    and this is

    because?
    There's a gammot of reasons. TRoc probably pointed some out.

    Better looking girls

    are more likely to be distracted with social obligations, meaning less time to focus on high school academics,

    meaning less credentials when applying to a University.

    Also, their identity - how they see themselves and

    how others see them - is also altered. Same goes for the uglier ones.

    Anyone I've talked to who went to Ivy

    League schools said the girls were dogs. Also, engineering type schools seem to scare the pretty ones

    away.

    Me, I went to a big state school, no shortage of sexy women.

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    Some women blossom at an older

    age than others. I recall a discussion here a few weeks ago where someone suggested that girls who are gorgeous in

    their teens often burn out in their 20s or 30s, and girls who blossom in their 20s can keep their looks into their

    30s and 40s.

    That was just a generalization, but I have known a few women who were not very attractive in their

    teens but turned into major man-magnets in their 20s. I would say that most women hit their top beauty stride

    around age 25 if they don't do anything to enhance their looks. Women who work to stay fit and healthy can keep

    their beauty into their 40s and 50s without resorting to drastic surgery (in fact, I have never seen a woman with a

    face lift whom I thought was attractive -- don't know about other kinds of surgery as I don't look under the hood

    of older women).

    Your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjf
    There's a

    gammot of reasons. TRoc probably pointed some out.

    Better looking girls are more likely to be distracted with

    social obligations, meaning less time to focus on high school academics, meaning less credentials when applying to a

    University.

    Also, their identity - how they see themselves and how others see them - is also altered. Same goes

    for the uglier ones.

    Anyone I've talked to who went to Ivy League schools said the girls were dogs. Also,

    engineering type schools seem to scare the pretty ones away.

    Me, I went to a big state school, no shortage of

    sexy women.
    yeah that's a good explaination...but i used to go to a private high school and there were

    almost 2x the ratio of hot girls compared to a public one. i guess college is whole different deal.

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    Private school and public school in

    high school and such is a completely different matter.

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    "most good looking girls

    have too much going for them where they don't have to worry about school whereas the less good looking ones have to

    make sure they have a future by concentrating on their academics. basically a good looking girl can just marry about

    anybody she wants. that's just my little theory."
    I wouldn't mention your "little theory" around any

    female classmates wthout ample protection. What employment opportunities does the future hold for these "hot" but

    poorly educated women? Hookers? Strippers? Housewives? Most women--hot or not--desire a career and not some long

    lost ideal of a happy housewife. Attractive women have advantages but it doesn't make up for a lack of education.
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    I don't have any classmates, and it

    is not some theory, it is just the way it is.

    And this isn't about desiring a career or being a housewife at

    all, your missing the whole point.

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    "I don't have any

    classmates, and it is not some theory, it is just the way it is. And this isn't about desiring a career or being a

    housewife at all, your missing the whole point."
    I work in academia and about 60% of our undergraduate

    college students are female. Nationally those numbers are 54% and increasing every year. Graduate school numbers are

    even more skewed towards women. Today, men are less likely to seek and complete higher education than women. The

    implications for the new century are increasing amounts of women assuming positions of prominence once held by

    men.

    I haven't noticed our female students--undergrad and graduate--to be less attractive than the general

    population. Nor do they become increasingly doggie as more degrees are conferred. In fact, University of Hawaii

    women seem to be way above average community standards. There are many extremely hot female Ph.D and M.A. students

    roamming our halls of knowledge, and darn few male students at the same level. I'm sure when I retire one of them

    will have my job and hit on "hot" young men in exchange for better grades...

    Society doesn't reward men nearly

    as much for academic accomplishments as it does women. Today being male in America almost dooms you to life in an

    educational underclass. Of course you could buck the trend and study like a woman, ugly or otherwise...
    "I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi

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    it depends on the standards of the

    school. i'm pretty sure state schools have a higher percentage of hot girls that say an ivy league school.

    generally speaking hot girls have better social lives and spend more time partying then studying. and remember hot

    girls=9, 10 while good looking girls=7,8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    Society doesn't

    reward men nearly as much for academic accomplishments as it does women. Today being male in America almost dooms

    you to life in an educational underclass. Of course you could buck the trend and study like a woman, ugly or

    otherwise...
    Interesting point.
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    educational underclass is one

    thing but does it translate into real life? men still have higher positions and get paid more while having the same

    position as a female worker. i'll trade being in the educational underclass for not having a glass ceiling in the

    corporate world.

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