I will definitely post my
impressions on the product and I will make sure to address all the questions as well
We strive to remain dynamic in our catering to the customers and cordially request those that have
tried Perception offer feedback on performance of the product. This will help expedite the release of the Platinum
version and ultimately a better product.
Things we are looking for:
- Estimated life of applied
dose (how long it lasts)- Impression of scent intensity (how strong the pheromone scent is)
- General
impression of fragrance (too weak, masculine, feminine, etc)- Recommendation for pheromone ratio
adjustment
We have already noted the sporadic reports of leaking atomizers during rough shipment and
trust we are hard at work engineering a bullet proof solution. Now the attention has to be focused on refining the
formula for maximum effectiveness...but before we can do that we need feedback!
For those that have tried
Perception keep in mind that we are breaking new ground in delivery of pheromones. The currently available
pheromones have been used in most every possible ratio and blend. If we don't advance the field of pheromones the
choice of products will become rehashed versions merely differing in brand or manufacturer. So who will develop new
products? The answer is YOU and ME. By giving us your feedback we can continue refining Perception and
other products. This is your chance to help make an excellent product even better!
The fundamental questions
are:
- Does the extended release of Perception work?
- Is the pheromone ratio effective?
- Would
you buy Perception again or recommend it to a friend based on the above?
Thank you for your
help!
Bobby
I will definitely post my
impressions on the product and I will make sure to address all the questions as well
Ok I have Perception but only use the unscented version (mainly because the scented stuff leaked allOriginally Posted by cuddlebear
out before I got it in the mail)
I must say that I have many other pheromone products. I have been trying one
here aand there since the days of Date Mate pheromone cologne so I do have some experience here.
1.Scent is a
little harsh and sharp even in the unscented form
2.!YES! the scent stays there and you can smell the pheros
on yourself all day! No doubt. I cannot beleif it stays as it does only with a water mix? That part you definately
did very well on. That impressed me. It stays there almost indefinately 10, 12 hours later no problem, hell even 14.
It is there until you wash that area and it is there with decent potency even after 10-12 hours.
3. It has
Spark! No doubt. It has alot of sexual stimuli to it. I have recieved blatent strong hits. It has much more sex than
SOE. Although I have been using the two at the same time and it seems to do well.
4. It has a musky, sharper
pheromone scent. Very musky. It almost feels heated or something. No exaggeration.
5. I use just one spray on
the chest and I rub it in some although I do not know if I should because it is not designed like normal cologne. It
is meant to sit on top. Does rubbing it in some matter? It doesn't seem to with me.
6. I use it like every
three days or so. It makes you more confident but watch it can make you a little mad? I think.
7. It seems
all women smell it. They look and act different around you than normal.
8. I have not had a chance to try it
in the club but I bet it is killer.
9. My hits have been strong. Stronger than any other pheromone cologne. I
guess it just suites me for that. More so than others. Although I liked Pheros and the concept although it makes me
a little tired.
8. I am male, 33 years old, single.
That is my experience with it. Thanks
alot.
HappyMan
The unscented is Strong. Very musky. You can't miss it.Originally Posted by Chemo (BDC Concepts)
The ratio is
effective for sexual stimuli for sure but I may want to add something that makes you a little more at ease with
it.
I've had perception
for over a week now. I've used it mainly at work and one afternoon of shopping. Have not had the opportunity to try
it in a social situation yet. Given that, I will answer what questions I can at this time.
Applied before work, approximately 4:30 AM each day. First three days, I used theOriginally Posted by Chemo
(BDC Concepts)
fragrance supplied with the product. This week I used an alcohol based fragrance, Ralph Lauren Silver
Romance.
In days I used it with the supplied fragrance, they both seemed to last until I arrived home around
5:00 PM and washed it off.
With the alcohol based cologne I tried applying it two different ways. The first
way was applying the cologne directly on top of the pheromone, after the mone had dried. The two mingled and the
scent of the cologne seemed to change to a more funky, but real pleasant smell as the day progressed. Again, it
seemed to last all day.
After reading the suggestion at the forum to apply an alcohol based cologne next to
the pheromone application, yesterday, I sprayed the Perception mones on either side of my neck (1 spray each side)
and 3 sprays of the RL Silver on my neck, stomach, and chest. The fragrance seemed to fade away several hours before
work ended but I could smell the mones until I washed them off at home.
The pheromone scent is noticable to me,
- Impression of
scent intensity (how strong the pheromone scent is)
but no where as strong as The Edge is.
I really like the fragrance! Don't see any needed changes in the
- General impression of fragrance (too weak,
masculine, feminine, etc)
formula. The spray seems quite large for the amount of fragrance supplied though, and I can see a drop in fluid
level in the bottle with just one spray. Again, I want to comment that I would like to see the scent offered alone
as a refill, it's that good.
Am not experienced enough with mixes to make recommendations
- Recommendation for pheromone ratio
adjustment
here.
I think so. As
- Does the extended release of Perception work?
I said above, I can smell the scent late in the afternoon, even after sweating. I assume that the pheromone release
is happening the same way.
Not
- Is the pheromone ratio effective?
having worn it in any social situations yet, I can't comment fully. I do feel a feeling of well being when wearing
it and people seem respectful when I wear it. I've only had one blatant hit from a woman so far, that was in a
bookstore last Friday. I was getting disappointed to see no reaction from the few women there, but they were with
their spouses or SOs. But then, one girl, In her mid 20s of average looks and a bit overweight walked between me and
the book shelves I was looking at a couple of times. Then at the Starbucks counter as I was waiting for my drink,
she again passed me, walking between me and the counter. There was no line, but she had entered through the exit
instead of the entrance to get to the cashier and commented about doing so as she excused herself and passed me. I
just kind of ignored her and noticed out of the corner of my eye she turned to look at me when I didn't react to
her passing.
Truthfully, at this point, Chikara is still my #1 product. But I think there is
- Would you buy Perception again or recommend it to a friend based on the
above?
potential with Perception. I would recommend it to others, after Chikara and I do think I would buy it again. I do
like it better than a straight none product like TE or NPA. I don't notice the self-consciousness or impatience I
seem to get when wearing Edge or NPA. I am much more comfortable wearing Perception than with those two.
I
have a big month planned in October, so I plan to give Perception a good workout. A week in San Diego, then perhaps
a business trip to Phoenix the week after for a couple of days of school, then an Alice Cooper concert at the
Arizona state fair in Phoenix the Sunday following the class.
The school thing is "iffy" right now, but I
plan to make the San Diego trip and the Alice Cooper concert and will be wearing Perception during those
times.
I think you do have a good product here. And I'm impressed with your participation at the forum to
get feedback and help people with Perception's application.
Nice.Originally Posted by InternationalPlayboy
.......
If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen
Holmes' Theme Song
First, Alice Cooper
rocks and it's nice to see fellow old school rockers on here
So, the time extended release is definitely
working but can anyone estimate the length of duration? 10 hours? 12 hours?
As for the fragrance, I'll see
if I can get a few hundred bottles over to Bruce so he can use them for free promotions.
Bobby
I'm hoping to get mine on
Monday and be able to start field testing Tuesday
And of course I'll report whatever happens
I just got mine today but
haven't had a chance to field test it yet. But, as far as the scented portion of it, I really like it a lot.
It's very nice, but subtle. Not nearly as overpowering as some products.
In theory I like the ratios of nol,
none, and rone you've put in this product. I'll just start field testing to see about results now.
I dunno whats wrong with
me, but I can't smell a dang thing with it. I feel like I could put a gallon on and not smell it. I wish I could
tell if it was lasting a long time but for me its impossible.
Its kind of hard to tell if the attention I'm
getting from the opposite sex is from the mones, I've been wearing it at work for a few days but things seems about
the same. Tonight I'm going out to party with it so we'll see how things go. Wish me luck.
Recieved mine yesterday. Lost
about 30 percent of volume in the scent bottle but the mones didn't leak. It looks like the leak may have come
from the seal where the bottle joins the spray head rather than from the sprayhead itself. Nice smell.
I'm
leaving on vacation tomorrow and will try it while traveling. Let you know when I return.
To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson
Great Feedback thus far.
Keep it coming!
Things we are looking
for:
- Estimated life of applied dose (how long it lasts)
- Impression of scent intensity (how
strong the pheromone scent is)- General impression of fragrance (too weak, masculine, feminine,
etc)- Recommendation for pheromone ratio adjustment
1)I know that it lasted atleast 6
hours.
2)I couldn't smell any "scent" to the pheromones.
3)The scent is nice not wow. I don't think
it's neither too weak or too strong. A little sensual. Can't think of anything to compare it to.
(4)I think
it's a good ratio. If to make any alternative adjustment i would go with 2 -none: and 1: 1 with the -nol or -rone
if to change anything. But the current ratio is ok.
The fundamental questions are:
- Does the
extended release of Perception work?- Is the pheromone ratio effective?
- Would you buy Perception again or
recommend it to a friend based on the above?
Thank you for your help!
Bobby[/QUOTE]
1)
yes
2) yes
3) I believe I will definately buy it again and would recommend it.
I've noticed
something in the last few days. I'm a pretty hairy guy and when I use Perception on the upper chest area, even
after scrubbing with a brush and antibacterial/deodorant soap, I can still catch whiffs of the pheromones the next
morning. I was wondering, though Perception is designed to prevent absorption by the skin, would that be true also
with hair? Or do I just need to sand my chest more? (And I'm not going to go with this modern fad of removing
all body hair. Too much maintenance. Not to mention that I think with my body, I'd look worse bare chested than
with hair.)
Just got perception and NPA
in the mail today, will try it out later and see what happens. Considering a newbie to this whole pheros stuff,
I'll probably end up screwing myself over by OD-ing on the stuff. Wish me luck... I'll post if something
interesting happens later.
By the way Bobby, Perception came in today without any leaks or problems so I guess
thats a good start. The scent that comes with it is actually pretty good. Would you recommend using that scent with
perception because your tests proved it to be more effective combined? or its just purely a cover scent? Thanks...
-Bryan
Just use 1-2 sprays of the
pheromones in perception and cover however you want (2 sprays of the fragrance is PLENTY) for a first run, NPA is
powerful and deserves mucho respect.
MB
"You are a sick f*ck, but I wouldn't have you any other way. "
~Becca
Thanks for the tip MB,
I did
that yesterday for my first trial, I didn't really expect much since I have totally no experience with these
things.
Well... expectation was met and nothing did happen
I used 2 sprays of perception on my neck, I didn't
catch the pheromone scent as the day progressed probably because I wasnt really paying attention and other factors
may have come into play such as people smoking or other peoples cologne. But I definitely smelled it when I got home
which means it does last that long.
So I guess for now, all I can answer to Bobby is his first question about
the time release and the answer is yes... the timed release does work.
I'm pretty sure I still need to find out
the most effective application for me, if anyone has ideas, I would sure appreciate them. I have tried looking for
info in this forum, but its either the info I'm looking for is not here... or I'm just too sleepy already LoL
Anyways, for everyones info... I'm male, 24 and 100% chinese, about 180lbs. 5'6" 1/2 (yes, there is a 1/2 inch
right there! heeheehee)
How should I use NPA? I also tried NPA today, just 2 dabs and wiped it on my wrist
and neck, then covered up with my cover scent. Still nothing, should I try going to Borders or something so that I
have more "test subjects"? No offense to the ladies in this forum
-Bryan
I have Perception since it's release........recieved it in good shape without any noticable
leakage. Funny thing happened to me today.
I've only used about 6 sprays so far....haven't been in many
situations other than work... I work in and operating room...in surgery........so we're pretty covered up with
masks and all. The few times I've worn it...I Applied two sprays ..then singles... I've found the scent lasts all
day....a good 10 hrs. Quite fragrant...and when it gets under your mask.....forghetahboutit....it can be
overwhelming . (Once at work-two sprays and once out to a few stores-two sprays before I tried single sprays) Again
not really having the opportunity to judge the effects....but nothing noticable....yet. Though with 5 sprays of
Chikara .....even in the operating room ... I've seen noticable results. So I need to figure out how much to
apply....then adding the cover scent.
Anyway..the bottle has remained upright thus far on the counter at
home.....today I put it in a separate small well padded comparment of my lunch kit.....in the front pouch....to take
to work. It being in the container that it is .....I had no fear of breakage.
Looking at the bottle...with the
crimps around it....the thought never crossed my mind... unlike Chikara and other cologne bottles I have ....that
the nozzle is SCREWED ON !! Unbeknowst to me...Somehow the screw cap was loose.... I haven't been handling
it....Can't figure how.
I generally stand my bag up in the refrigerator...but today, of all days... due to
lack of space... I placed it on it's side. Bad move...very bad move...I didn't check till the end of the
day.....and when I opened the pouch to share with a coworker......much to my surprise the container was
wet....bewildered I examined it closer... looking for where it might be leaking. Moving it around ...it is then I
discovered this unfortunate SCREW ON fact. Sadly I lost about 2/3 of my Perception! Shit happens I
guess..I learned a valuable lesson. Too bad...
Perhaps I'm not wearing enough....but I can really smell the
mones ...so I hesitate to up the quantity....fearing an OD. I'm 47 and probably could stand upping my none levels
but even with a cover scent.......I find it strong.
So anyone having a problem with leakage....check to see
that the nozzle is screwed on tightly. Thanks
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Coincidentally..........If I
happen to notice an unusal amount of doting over my Eddie Bauer lunch bag.....I'll be sure to let you know. Though
with 2/3 of the bottle in it........It's sure to be an OD
If this thing screws off, has anyone
tried dabbing perception? Or would bacteria contamination be a problem?
Just got mine in today... can't
wait to try it out. I've been using mostly Chikara so i want to see how Perception compares. Will post my
experiences soon.
Life: I'd say 10-12 hours before it becomes very hard if not impossible to detect on skin,Originally Posted by Chemo (BDC
Concepts)
on clothing it lasts longer. Keep in mind I sweat a LOT.
Pheromone scent is not very noticable, I have to almost
be "smelling for it" in order to actually notice it before I put the cover on, afterwards I can't notice it.
I
really dig the scent... very clean and not uber-fancy, but not trashy... Sorry for being so vague, but I think that
it is aweesome!
Can't comment.
Yes.
Very.
Yes, and yes.
MB
"You are a sick f*ck, but I wouldn't have you any other way. "
~Becca
Day 1
I started with one
full spray to the chest.
The “spray” was more like a blast. It seemed to deliver about twice the volume of
the Edge dispenser. The product performed as advertised however. At first I smelled heavy pheromone fumes, but after
a few minutes the smell was pretty subtle.
So I tried to spray a small amount of cover scent, but that came out
in a burst as well.
Also the perfume didn’t seem to disperse as well as the pheromone spray. I waited about 15
minutes for it to dry, but it just turned into a syrupy little splotch. So I tried to gently spread it around, put
my shirt on, and went to a Whole Foods supermarket.
As I was walking towards the enterance a lady (mid thirties)
with a clipboard (probably doing surveys) started to approach me and seemed about to say something. I smiled and she
just froze there, with her mouth ready to form the “h” sound, as I walked past her.
Pretty funny, but
this was just the start of my DIHL’s. There was the elderly lady that stared at me as I got my shopping basket. A
tall blond girl that froze up when I tried to pick out a bag of coffee. A little boy, walking with his father, that
stopped to stare at me in the produce section. A lady that couldn’t get her words out at one of the sample stands.
Two girls that stopped talking just to stare at me in the cereal section. And the girl standing behind me at the
check out line.
I didn’t get many smiles. Just lots of “excuse me’s” and people stepping out of my way like
I was armed and dangerous.
After that I rushed home and took a quick shower. The stuff came right
off.
Day 2
I tried to give myself a partial spray on the chest, and seemed to get something about the
size of an Edge dosage. The cover scent came out in a big splotch once again.
My first stop was a coffee
shop and the vibes seemed pretty good this time around. The girls behind the counter seemed extra cheerful and the
barista seemed extra polite. I felt encouraged and struck up a conversation with a lady (mid thirties, nice legs,
kind of cute) that was working on a crossword puzzle. She seemed a bit nervous at first, but things got better after
I broke the ice. She said that she’d noticed me at the coffee shop before and figured that I was some kind of artist
or musician. (I wish.) Turns out she’s a history professor, so I didn’t have to fake any interest in her. We had a
nice conversation and she was visibly disappointed when I said I had to go. So I invited her to my Labor day party
and she perked right up. (Let’s see what happens when she meets my girl friend.)
Next stop was a bike shop
that was advertising a clearance sale. There wasn’t a single female in the place but the salesmen where very nice
and respectful.
I felt good about my dosage so I kept the stuff on when I went to pick up my gf for a
matinee.
She figured out I was wearing pheromones right away. She liked the scent but didn’t seem to be
particularly turned on or off. And she wasn’t cuddly when we got to the theater.
After that we stopped for
ice cream and the girl behind the counter struck me as somewhat nervous.
So I started to think that maybe my
dosage was still a bit too much. No real negative results just a subtle vibe that I had to keep projecting my charm
at all times ot avoid the “lone wolf” effect.
But I still got laid, so I’m not
complaining.
* over 12 hoursOriginally Posted by Chemo (BDC Concepts)
* relatively subtle considering the volume
* nice all purpose scent,
lasts a long time
* maybe half the Androsterone and 25% more Androstenol (Rone gives me a sort of authoritarian
aura. Nol makes me a fun guy.)
* dunno
* yes
* probably (I like the easy clean up), but I would DEFINITELY
buy it if it dispensed Chikara sized sprays
Give truth a chance.
Yep will start using my
perception next week then I will keep you posted.
Flash1
If you dont keep the atomiser
upright the original ones leak. ABleit slowly im assuming the next shipment will be fixed.
I got the gold version. The
pheromones and scent leaked considerably in delivery. The spray shoots out in streams instead of sprays. I think the
only problem is with the atomizers.
Lasted 11 hours or so.
Puts women in a really good mood for me, but
nothing sexual. Almost as if it were androstenol. I'd keep the current ratio because I personally will start
applying a none heavy product next to the perception application points.
I enjoy the cool masculine scent a lot,
and it also lasts a long time.
I have the unscented edge
spray and perception. I sprayed shots of both onto some paper and smelled them every 10-15 minutes for two hours.
I could always smell the perception and never the edge, but after I smelled the perception the first time I
couldn't smell it again unless I gave my nose a break. I can smell the pheros in perception easily on me all day
unless I do a good cover up job. Apparently I can't smell rones which would explain the odorless edge. When I
got my perception in the mail (two weeks ago) there was some leakage in both bottles, but only a little. I'm still
a newbie at this and haven't gotten any hits from anything yet.
The fragrance lasts for about
10 hours or so which is good in my opinion. The intensity of it is just right, what needs to be increased is the
amount. As I posted earlier, the fragrance bottle is empty when the mone bottle is still half full.
The
extended release seems to be working. However, the results seem to be very inconsistent. My guess is that the
majority of the female population use contraceptive pills which lessen the effect of the mones. I.e. perception
seems to be working better on young women or older ones, not those in their 20s and 30s who typically uses
contraceptive pills.
For adjustment of the ratio: Lessen the amount of none and increase the amount of nol. I
really wish there were a product that had about 5 times as much nol as it had none.
I just finished a 2-week test run of
Perception and sorry to say I got no results/reactions. I have however seem to be having problems with the spray
head and dosage. The volume of product I get seems pretty small in comparison to a Chikara spray, but maybe that's
what it's supposed to be? Doesn't seem to spray very well. Have tried both with and without a cover scent, and in
amounts ranging from 1 to 4 sprays.
And yes, I discovered the "screw-on" nature of the atomizer when I first
tried to remove the cap and the whole bottle pulled out of the base. Was very slightly loose but not enough to
leak.
Leakage in shipment was confined to a small amount of the cover scent container.
Of the four products
I have tested in the past 6 weeks (near end of Feb thru mid April 2005) SOE and Chikara have both produced possible
positive results. Adding some NPA to those (eg one drop or even less) have given me some possible negative results
(nervousness/defensiveness). Perception has given me zip. Am moving on to test AE for next couple of weeks.
My
stats: Male, 50's.
Maybe you need to clean the spray
head. Soak it in alcohol and spray until shoots clean. Most of my atomizers need occasional maintenance.
"I'm just a dirty hornytoad" -Gegogi
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