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    RBT youre a case in point some of

    the products work some give you neg feedback and others dont do much at all. - its good to see though that SOE and

    chikara do work - therefore keep em coming

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    Any chance of getting single

    mones with the special perception delivery polymer? The best thing about perception is the zero build up and long

    release. Single mone delivery would allow fine tuning a great combo like perception.

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    could try the chem set thr3shold

    if we dont get a single mone compound wit hperception - you could try adding the chem set to the fragrencee of that

    comes with perception

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    Quote Originally Posted by thr3shold
    Any

    chance of getting single mones with the special perception delivery polymer? The best thing about perception is the

    zero build up and long release. Single mone delivery would allow fine tuning a great combo like

    perception.
    I just brought this post

    back to the top. BJF started it to try to persuade BDC Concepts, the manufacturers of Perception to offer their

    polymer breakthrough as a non-pheromone "cologne extender." The best thing to do is place your opinion here. I

    finally voted yes on it today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gegogi
    Maybe you need to

    clean the spray head. Soak it in alcohol and spray until shoots clean. Most of my atomizers need occasional

    maintenance.
    Hmm. Will check it out. It was a recently ordered atomizer, hadn't been sitting around I

    hope, and I have only used the stuff about a dozen times total. Never did seem to work right IMO. Might take a

    chance and transfer some to a different atomizer and see what happens. I just started my AE tests so it will be a

    while before I re-test Peception. Stay tuned.
    Same bat-time, same bat-channel.

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    i am a bartender and i

    have been testing different mones for the last 2 years now. perception is #1. soe second. anyway perception lasts a

    good 12 + hours. 1 spray works consistent for me. get better atomizers that spray the proper dose consistently. i

    cant smell the mones at all really. only time was when my first order leaked than it had moderate scent. the cover

    scent is great. goes perfect with perception. in fact sell that seperately or at least in a bigger bottle. i need

    like 10 of those fragrance bottles to last with one bottle of mones. with the mone/cover combo im smelling myself

    all day long.
    DUDES AND DUDDETTES HERE IS WHAT YOU DO. keep the mone ratio, keep the cover scent the

    same, keep them in seperate bottles, give more cover scent or sell seperately, FIX THE ATOMIZERS, GIVE ALL OF YOUR

    LOYAL CUSTOMERS ONE PLATINUM RELEASE FREE!! the extended release works. ive bought again am buying again tonight

    and will buy again in the future. besides i have to buy two to at least use the scent for a while. i would wear the

    scent with no moes

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    Quote Originally Posted by InternationalPlayboy
    I just brought this

    post
    back to the top. BJF started it to try to persuade BDC Concepts, the manufacturers of Perception to offer

    their polymer breakthrough as a non-pheromone "cologne extender." The best thing to do is place your opinion here. I

    finally voted yes on it today.
    I would love that as well. There are far fewer women's products/reviews

    out, and I'm getting to the point where I would like to make my own mix based on my personality and my specific

    situation. Either offering the extender without pheromones, or allowing us to order a one of a kind, made to order

    formula would be great!

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    Before releasing the

    matrix as a standalone product the formulation had to be tweaked just a bit.

    For starters, each batch has to

    be hand synthesized by myself. I have both a bachelor and master's degree in Chemistry but unfortunately do not

    have a laboratory with the needed equipement to synthesize, purify, and assay the batch. Hence, I have to travel an

    hour up the road and "rent a lab" that does have the equipment. This is a very pricey requirement.

    Also, the

    raw material reagents are not the cheapest to purchase. We don't settle for technical grade anything so the extra

    charges for USP/NF sure add up.

    Over the past few months that we've been off the boards the team has

    consulted several process chemists that specialize in polymer chemistry (I specialize in physical chemistry or the

    "math behind the molecules"). The feedback from them has allowed us to streamline the synthesis as well as fine

    tune the formulation to capitalize on the characterstics that make it so attractive for pheromone use: the extending

    properties.

    The short story is that we can make it better, faster, and cheaper which will translate to more

    cost and performance effective component for our products. In light of our breakthrough the option to offer the

    matrix for ancillary use (as a standalone product) is much easier to accomodate. Stay tuned for details...



    Bobby

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    Is there truly no build up

    with this product?

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    Yeah, its practically

    impossible. Ive heard of someone having their bottle contaminated after a while, but with the gel packs there is

    nothing you can do to make it go bad. Ive tinkered with armpit applications but the conversion was horrible, but

    this stuff works there and on the crotch area like a charm.

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    I see it's been about 9 months

    since they said to stay tuned for an update. Would be nice to get one one of these days. I have an interest in the

    matrix stuff. The pheromone product itself has given me next to ziltch.
    The opposite of love isn't hate.
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    I'm guessing they're busy with

    the business/research aspect. Time will tell. As for the hit wise, up your dosage! As stated in other Perception

    threads, the gell pack releases at 1/4 the average alcohol based product. That means that you need to up the dosage

    4 times but the product itself lasts 4 times longer. Also elsewere, Pongo stated that body temperature seems to

    matter as well. Tinker around I guess.

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    I'm not much into rumors but Ill

    pass this one along with a bit of salt,... They may be outa buiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pongo
    I'm

    not much into rumors but Ill pass this one along with a bit of salt,... They may be outa

    buiness.
    Veddy interdesting. After reading this, I checked their website and saw that it has changed.

    There used to be a direct link to Love Scent as the sole distributor of Perception. Now there is no mention at all.

    Instead,

    Where to Purchase Perception Pheromone Cologne Spray:

    Coming soon: available direct

    from the manufacturer! An online store for purchasing BDC Concept products will allow customers to purchase

    Perception, Perception Gels Packs, our proprietary polymer matrix, and also fragrance.
    I remember

    that recently one of the moderators deleted a link someone made to their site in a thread about pheromone candles.

    It surprised me at the time as I had linked to the same page before with no problem.

    "Curiouser and

    curiouser."

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    Get Bruces word on it I

    guess.

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    Thumbs down Perception Packs No effect for Baby Boomers

    Las Vegas Nv 1/24/06 1:10 PM PMT:

    Traderneil...while the packaging of the perception product is

    very nice, I find that the formula does not work at all for me. The consistancy of the product is too watery,so it

    runs and drips.
    This would be of little concern to me if it worked,but even a full packet gets me no results. In a

    previous post I suggested that the formula may only work for people in the 20-30 year old range, which I base only

    on the posts that I see on this website.

    Even Realm for men works very well for me,as does almost all the other

    products that I have used from L/S, I wish you could tweak this formula to work for everybody.

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    I'm 46, the spray

    worked for me somewhat, though I'm more partial to Chikara. I got the most blatant DIHL I've ever received with

    the Perception spray, her mouth was almost hanging open. And there's one woman at work that when I wore it, was

    always touching me and standing closer than she did on non-Perception days. I don't care for the gel at all

    though.

    What I liked most about the spray was ease of application and the benefit of scent extension. The gel

    is just too messy, in my opinion. I still have a good bit of the spray left. I've put it aside to try some of the

    other new products Bruce keeps coming out with. Thinking of the woman at work while typing this, I was thinking

    that I should use it again. But if it's the last of its kind, maybe I should hold onto it instead.

    Pongo may

    be onto something about the body heat angle. I live in the Arizona desert and have a tendency to sweat a lot. That

    may help to disperse the mones that are trapped in the polymer matrix.

    IF BDC is still in business and they

    ever release their final version, I probably won't jump to buy it now. I'm just not a fan of the gels. I am still

    interested in the polymer matrix as a stand alone release though. But I would much prefer that in a spray than a

    gel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traderneil
    In

    a previous post I suggested that the formula may only work for people in the 20-30 year old range, which I base only

    on the posts that I see on this website.
    I should mention that the woman mentioned above is somewhere

    around 22-25 years old.

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    When it comes to the Perception spray

    it gets a failing grade (F). I purchased one of the first batch that when online at lovescent, of course there was a

    leaking problem and the spray was empty with a little bit of the Cologne in the other, but it was replaced a few

    days later thanks to Bruce. Tried it for about a month, different applications, at different social events and

    situations, had no noticeable results. Then other new products came out and I just left it on the shelf, won't even

    waste my time with the gel packs. Kind of disappointing because Perception could have been the next big advancement

    in Pheromone products.
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    I too am very disappointed with

    Peception. Tried the spray and now have the gels. I have put this in the Pherlure catagory. Weak product and dubious

    marketing.

    And I'm not talking about how L-S marketed the product. But, rather BDC Concepts. They are now

    nowhere to be found. But when the product first came out, they were posting all the time to promote it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge
    I too am very

    disappointed with Peception. Tried the spray and now have the gels. I have put this in the Pherlure catagory. Weak

    product and dubious marketing.

    And I'm not talking about how L-S marketed the product. But, rather BDC

    Concepts. They are now nowhere to be found. But when the product first came out, they were posting all the time to

    promote it.
    Since there are those that have the Pgels and they're not working for you ... you might as

    well change your dosage to a whole pack placed nicely on body parts showing (neck, head, face, throat, top of

    hands). Fer those of you that have TE mixed with a nice smelling 'longe, omit the throat/top of chest, back of

    neck, and bottom of the yer wrist with Pgel; that's where you spray your mixture. If that doesn't work ...



    I'm reserving all rights to be wrong!
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    Since there are

    those that have the Pgels and they're not working for you ... you might as well change your dosage to a whole pack

    placed nicely on body parts showing (neck, head, face, throat, top of hands). Fer those of you that have TE mixed

    with a nice smelling 'longe, omit the throat/top of chest, back of neck, and bottom of the yer wrist with Pgel;

    that's where you spray your mixture. If that doesn't work ...

    I'm reserving all rights to be

    wrong!

    Mobley, are you saying that the Preception has worked for you? If so put the

    magic formula in plain speak.

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    He's basically sayn....

    USE

    MORE


    Till you get the results you are looking for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icehawk
    He's basically

    sayn....

    USE MORE


    Till you get the results you are looking

    for...

    Yah. How does the Edge fit in to the equation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge
    Mobley, are you

    saying that the Preception has worked for you? If so put the magic formula in plain speak.
    Nope! But

    after Icehawks post, and all the post on body language, I spray a shot of TE:cologne mix on top of both hands, my

    neck's pulse points and covered it with Perception gel; put some on my cheeks; and the back of my neck until the

    pack was used up. Then I sprayed my chest/neck area with the spray. Definitely an OD my most people's standards. In

    a place that I frequent, there's this 20something young lady, and if the body language experts are correct about

    the pupils dilating, all you can see is pupil. No, she's not afraid of me, and always speaks, smiles, and make sure

    she says hello. And yes, I've made double sure that her pupils are not always dilated. Whenever I want to try a mix

    or mone, I go there ... yes I'm bad, I use her as my monerator (her eyes tells me if I'm on to something). Right

    or wrong ... I don't know. If it worked you asked me ... I say yes, but who knows. Whaddayous think?

    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Me thinks you are using way too

    much product to get such a small reaction from one subject.

    However, I reserve the right to be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by tounge
    Me thinks you are

    using way too much product to get such a small reaction from one subject.

    However, I reserve the right to be

    wrong
    You're right, but at least I know something is working, yes?
    Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOBLEYC57
    You're right, but

    at least I know something is working, yes?


    I don't know. My thinking is that a

    product(s) has to work on a consistant basis and on a variety of people, for me to consider it effective and worht

    the time and expense. Again however, your milage may very BTW, how do you like my Mobleyisms?

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    You're obviously not getting

    the result you want with a product, so you put it away? If it's going to sit in a corner, might as well use

    all up and go crazy. Experiment, you knever know what will happen. Didnt do anything for me at first personally, so

    I tinkered around till I got the response I was looking for. THats for any product, not jsut Perception.

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    Some further comments though some

    may be repeats:

    I've usually only used one or two sprays of liquid Perception. I really don't like loading

    stuff on. the "extender" part seems to work,the pheromone formulation doesn't.

    I was using 1/2 gel packet with

    no results. The one possible "reaction" I got (in the form of a comment about my perceived age) was on a day I

    decided to use a whole packet, so maybe more is indeed necessary. But I agree the stuff is too watery, and that, in

    combination with the added expense of having to use multiple packets, starts to put the whole product out of the

    range of practiacllity. Especially when I think I can see results with only a couple drops of something like AE or a

    spray or two of Chikara.

    Also: maybe temperature/humidity *may* have something to do with it, as the latest

    (and sorta only) reaction was on my last Florida visit, not my usual up north abode, although temps were rather cool

    (Tampa area).

    I've also seen some comments elsewhere that have not been overly flattering about BDC. But such

    can be found for almost any company or product. I have noticed there hasn't been much of a change to the BDC

    website. I can find NO mention of the gel product or the "Platinum" release. Just the same stuff they had up almost

    a year ago about the Gold release spray. And as many of us have noticed, they have not posted on this forum for some

    time. Odd if they were continuing to promote interest in their products to a darn good target audience. BDC has also

    yet to answer any of the emails I've sent them via thir website. I start to wonder if the good deal Bruce recently

    got on the boxes of packets may not have been an inventory clearance sale before the company pulls the plug. Just

    speculation.

    I know I won't be ordering the Perception pheromone product again personally. The "extender"

    matirx would have been nice as a stand-alone.
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