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    Question Peaks and bottoms - question to think

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    Hello everyone!
    Well, I decided post this thread, because I think it would be an interesting one... This is

    based on my own experience.

    I'm 18 years old male. About 3 years ago I started watching girls - their eyes,

    body language and etc. Because it got really interesting for me. I always look for prolonged eye contacts and other

    signs of girl interested in me.

    I consider my self pretty good looking (I'm not a baby-faced or model type,

    but much more masculine), tall, muscular.
    The reason for this question is that I noticed some interesting things

    within these 3 years.

    Everytime I go out I can normally count ~2-5 prolonged eye contacts from girls. There

    are so called peaks and bottoms of attention I get from girls. Within last year I experienced two peak

    periods.

    How do I know when a peak comes ?
    During a peak period I get so much attention from girls -

    stares, many prolonged eye contacts and smiles. Some girls even try to start a conversation with me or waves to me

    through bus window when I get out of that bus. This period lasts about 2-5 days max for a week. And this happens

    without using pheromones.

    But when a bottom comes, it seems like all girls ignore me. When I go out during

    this period I could hardly count any eye contact, no smiles and it seems like I'm invisible. This happens also

    about two or more times a year. This period lasts also about one week.

    I noticed that when I get a really

    good haircut or some new cool clothes attention from girls increase.
    First I thought that peaks are caused by my

    new looks - new haircut, new clothes, but suddenly I realised that these could be just a part of that. For example,

    I got a cool haircut few months ago, put on new stylish clothes and I went to a concert. I could count lots of hits

    from girls. However, a week later I haven't noticed anything unusual wearing same new clothes.

    I haven't

    used any pheromones during those periods.
    So questions to think are...

    Does anyone of you experienced

    periods like these?
    Maybe it's my natural mones are involved?
    Do my natural pheromones cause these peaks and

    bottoms?
    Or there maybe other circumstances?

    All thoughts about these peaks and bottoms are

    appreciated.

    Thank you!

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    have you considered

    seasonal periods? Women seem to become more romantically inclined in the Spring, early Summer. I have no

    scientific basis to back this up, just my own observations over the years.

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    Life is like the business

    cycle. Up, down, up, down, up, down... You will experience periods of great joy and great sorrow. It is natural

    for some times to be up for a week and other times to be down for a week. This can apply to anything from mood to

    attractiveness to anything. Pheromones may have something to do with it. Some periods, just like for women, your

    body is more physically 'ready' (can't think of a better word) to attract the opposite sex. There are so many

    things in your body that are automated, and stuff like that just happens. Think about what life would be like if

    you were 'on' all of the time. It'd be pretty weird. I don't claim to know the answer, but I do understand the

    basic cycles that life seems to have. If you're not 'on', maybe you should just focus on something else for a

    while and try again later. Nobody's perfect.

    To summarize, -mones are a part of it. Your body produces more

    sometimes and less at other times. It's only natural. However, there are always other factors such as looks,

    location, other people's moods, etc. -mones might help, but sometimes when you're in a 'funk' you just have to

    roll with it and move on when it passes.

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    well, the best peak periods that

    I've experienced were last year's April and this year's March. However I have experienced those up periods also

    in winter. So, I don't know ... Maybe it's because of the seasons...

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    Keglius,

    Before I knew about

    mones I used to wonder about this too. I sure as hell like attention from women, so when I was getting the stares

    sometimes and being ignored others, it confused the hell out of me.

    I agree with Pancho on what he said about

    our bodies. Your diet, stress, happiness, workout routine, etc etc all affect such things as hormones, skin

    bacteria, sweating etc etc, which affect your natural mone signature.

    On a side note, I know as soon as I get

    a hair cut, I'll get the stares for the first week. That is how I know I must look much better with the shorter

    hair.

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    I think it must have to do with

    hormone levels and neurotransmitter balance (mood). This will have an effect on natural phero levels, but also the

    body language you project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keglius
    How do I know

    when a peak comes ?
    During a peak period I get so much attention from girls - stares, many prolonged eye contacts

    and smiles. Some girls even try to start a conversation with me or waves to me through bus window when I get out of

    that bus. This period lasts about 2-5 days max for a week. And this happens without using pheromones.

    But when a

    bottom comes, it seems like all girls ignore me. When I go out during this period I could hardly count any eye

    contact, no smiles and it seems like I'm invisible. This happens also about two or more times a year. This period

    lasts also about one week.

    I noticed that when I get a really good haircut or some new cool clothes attention

    from girls increase.
    First I thought that peaks are caused by my new looks - new haircut, new clothes, but suddenly

    I realised that these could be just a part of that. For example, I got a cool haircut few months ago, put on new

    stylish clothes and I went to a concert. I could count lots of hits from girls. However, a week later I haven't

    noticed anything unusual wearing same new clothes.

    I haven't used any pheromones during those periods.
    So

    questions to think are...

    Does anyone of you experienced periods like these?
    Maybe it's my natural mones are

    involved?
    Do my natural pheromones cause these peaks and bottoms?
    Or there maybe other circumstances?

    All

    thoughts about these peaks and bottoms are appreciated.

    Thank you!
    same here. i used to be the man in

    highschool. all the girls used to pay attention to me. then college came, i gained 30-35 through my junior year in

    college. i think i had a really good scent in highschool and as my weight week up my body wasn't sending out the

    same scent. either that or because since a couple of girls paid attention to me, it made the rest of the girls do it

    too. ever since highschool ended i've had to get back down to where every other guy is. i'm in the process of

    losing the last of the pounds i gained since college started. and i'm back to my cocky and arrogant self that i was

    in highschool. since prob mid-feb i've been getting to a certain extent the attetion from girls that i used to get

    in highschool. on a side note my game never really develop because i never really had to kick game to girls because

    of the attention i received, i'm currently trying to work on my game too. how would you rate yours?

    when i have

    new clothes on or a haircut i'm very cocky and arrogant. i think when you feel like that, you produce more mones.

    you scent probably reflect how you feel, that's probably why they say women can smell when you're scared when you

    talk to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho1188
    Think about what

    life would be like if you were 'on' all of the time. It'd be pretty weird.
    It'd be pretty

    awesome.

    You wouldn't catch me complaining.
    If a guy's a cocksucker in his life, when he dies, he don't become a saint. - Morris Levy, Hitmen

    Holmes' Theme Song

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    Yeah, I agree ... I think that

    your own mood and how you feel around girls has a lot to do with natural hormones and pheromones levels. Maybe that

    causes those so called peak attention periods? I noticed that when I feel good and confident, when I wear nice

    clothes it seems like I get much more attention.
    But I also noticed that most of eye contacts I receive from

    girls come when I don't look for any eye-contacts or other body language things.

    TRock, if I get you right

    (sorry, English is not my native), my game is just like yours... It has never really developed. Maybe just because

    I'm on a bit shy side and don't have a lot of confidence.

    Yesterday I met one girl (about 8 of 10) and had

    a conversation with her. I used that cocky & funny attitude and it really worked well. She called me late in evening

    and asked me out for a nice conversation sometime later. I don't have any problems socialising and communicating

    with girls like these...
    However, I noticed that it's really hard for me to use that cocky & funny attitude with

    really hot babes (9s and 10s). Especially with those girls which I really like. Strange fear. It's really hard for

    me to communicate with these babes... I hope that I will overcome it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes
    It'd be pretty

    awesome.

    You wouldn't catch me complaining.
    Holmes: But I just want people to like me for who I am,

    not because I'm this fly mamma-jamma...

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    My pheromones always work better

    after a workout, which I attribute to higher body heat & more positive attitude.
    Another consistent pattern

    I’ve noticed is that my best results come on Fridays whereas my worst come on Mondays. (In fact the results are so

    slim that I rarely even bother to use pheromones on mondays — unless of course it’s a holiday.)
    So I tend to

    think attitude is key.

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    Yo keglius:
    I think you

    can "PEAK" constantly, Its not the haircut or the new clothes its YOU. Its the feeling inside you that says I'm

    looking badass and all the women are feelling me, and that proyects out of you. You just have notice every thought,

    motion and feeling that you have while your on this "peak" and you will be able to replicate it all the time.

    Remember women are 'sexually attracted' to the man not his clothes, or his haircut. What pheromones do is

    actually tell her what type of man are you chemically. Are you a none man, a -nol man, or -rone man. or a

    combination of all. When your in those peaks you are exuding confidence and thinking all the right things and

    girls have all their radars ON looking for that exactly... So you can "peak" like that constantly, more like LIVE

    like that constantly. So give yourself a haircut if you want, but its what your proyecting (your body language,

    your persona, your vibe) that ATTRACTS and catches girls attention.
    If you don't believe me, here is my story.

    Alot of times at the gym I just wear a old, black shirt and some dark green work out pants and my hair is a little

    messed up, but its that kind of cool messed up look. Basically kind of like I just got in a fight and WON. Also

    then I enjoy the working out and pushing weight so I am feeling all powerful and stuff and girls will be noticing me

    HARDCORE. and doing the eye contanct thing, yes.

    So yea man thats how it is.
    You can live "peaking"

    not just live it and lose it.
    later man...

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    People have

    peaks and valleys in their mood and life, though. I still say there has to be a certain amount of acceptance that

    life is a cycle. However, we're not animals that only mate during the spring time after hibernation...so I think

    the cycles are more day-to-day or week to week than, "Man, I really score during the spring!" However, we still

    retain some animal instincts, so I wouldn't put it past any human to feel more in the zone during the spring when

    the winter clothes come off and skin starts showing...allowing for more visual eye-candy and -mone transfer.

    Honestly, how can people pick up your scent under 4 layers of clothes?

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    Up North people talk about the

    Febuary blahs, the time of the year when it's dark and cold with less sunlight.
    A former girlfriend and another

    woman told me that that during the summer months they feels extra horny.

    I wouldn't call these extream peaks

    or lows just observations.


    DCW

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalesalsa82
    Remember women

    are 'sexually attracted' to the man not his clothes, or his haircut.

    When your in those peaks you are exuding

    confidence and thinking all the right things and girls have all their radars ON looking for that exactly... So you

    can "peak" like that constantly, more like LIVE like that constantly. So give yourself a haircut if you want, but

    its what your proyecting (your body language, your persona, your vibe) that ATTRACTS and catches girls attention.

    the 1st line is absolutely true, but what if you exude cofidence because you just got a haircut that

    makes you look good and you know you look good. or what if you're really confident because you know you are the

    best dressed in the room. what if you get the confidence and good body language from a new haircut and being the bst

    dressed in the room?

    for me i crave attention. i always have a good day if i catch a girl checking me out even

    if i'm not interested in her. it brings my confidence up. it reaasures me that i am the man. when i know i'm the

    man, i'm feeling very confident and cocky and walk with a swagger. but on a day when i don't see a girl checking

    me out or people aren't paying attention to me, i'm not as out going, confident, or walking with a swagger. my

    mechanism to feel cocky and confident is to know that i'm either one of the best dressed or one of the best dressed

    in the room and know that i'm perfectly grooomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCW
    Up North people

    talk about the Febuary blahs, the time of the year when it's dark and cold with less sunlight.
    A former girlfriend

    and another woman told me that that during the summer months they feels extra horny.

    I wouldn't call these

    extream peaks or lows just observations.


    DCW
    That's true. Some people have SMD or SDD (They keep

    changing it on me, so I can't remember), meaning Seasonal Mood Disorder or Seasonal Depression Disorder.

    Basically, you feel down in the winter due to the less sunlight. I know I feel that way to an extent (the sun makes

    me happy) just like everyone else does, but I'm not about to let it ruin my flow for 5 months because I don't get

    enough sunlight. Sun can make you happy, which can make you horny...

    ...but I will let you know that most

    children are born around August and September...why? That's ~9 months away from December and January, the time

    when people are most likely to be cuddling up together during the cold months and getting their freak on...

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    Hey,dalesalsa82! Nice post man!

    Yeah, I guess that you are right. We should learn to be on "peak" everyday... That would be cool. Though it's not

    really easy... However, I think we should live with that attitude that we're on peak and really confident, happy

    now.

    Like TRock said... He craves for attention, so do I... When I get cool new clothes or new haircut I

    feel really good. It really boosts my confidence, mood and well being. I know that I'm the man. I have a

    confidence, I could walk up to beautiful girl and have fun with that! And then I notice very much attention from

    girls.

    So, I'm still searching for a pheromone product which could boost my confidence and well being, so I

    could be on that "peak" everytime. I've tried AE/m, but it didn't work for me... Now I'm waiting for TE and

    SOE... We will see how the things go.

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