Reply With QuoteThe audio DYD seminars I find
very useful.
You guys talk a lot about these
techniques but I haven't heard anyone say that they were sucessful using them.
I use to get the DeAngelo
news letter he had some interesting points but I never really took it seriously or put it to the
test.
DCW
The audio DYD seminars I find
very useful.
Useful..what about sucessful?Originally Posted by Snoopy
DCW
well like i mentioned b4 i
think most of the SS or mark and other nlp techniques are too difficult to apply in real life. IMO david's 2xdating
cocky/funny attitude is the only thing i've seen out there that's easy for the laymen to grasp and pick up. i've
been using mones for several years now so im kinda used to getting the extra friendly attention and people actually
laughing at my lame jokes. i noticed that the pheromones really compliments david's teachings to the extent that u
can make some of the most common but fatal mistakes and still get the girl in the end. (and this im
speaking from personal experience)
The thing about DeAngelo technique
(being cocky and funny) works to an extent, but I feel you can't keep that up forever. Eventually the Lady is
going to get tired of the whole funny/cocky routine. Then there are the guys that can't pull that off no matter
how many times they practice in front of the mirror. That's not to say it doesn't work, I've used the
cocky/funny a few times, sometimes it works sometimes you get shot down because you're acting too cocky.
"You made three mistakes. 1. You took the job. 2. A 4 man crew to catch me, f***ing insulting. 3. You didn't pack enough weapons."- Riddick "The Chronicles of Riddick"
C&F may work well for me because
I am young and the girls I go for have a sense of humour.
very true, on that laidguide site
where all the supposed 'players' share their experiences(was it fastseduction something?) i remember reading
somebody talked about being too smooth that u overqualify right over the girl and she pulls back because she felt
the guy is too confident to be actually 'interested' in somebody like her. my guess is that the cocky/funny
attitude works the best on the 8s 9s and 10s who r more used to dealing with approaches from men. it's interesting
how we also see the most obvious 'buying signals' from those same women when they react to the pheromones isn't
it.
I don't think C&F works too well
around shy girls either.
in my experience u have to
use the more friendly pheromone products like WAGG and SOE (with a hint of none)around shy girls to peak their
interest then sit back and allow them to 'chase' u at their own pace.
Humor will work with shy girls
if you go easy on them. They are usually insecure and uncomfortable revealing their feelings. Once you show them
you don't mean harm (that is, you cannot use mean, petty humor on them) they will begin to relax.
I have never
tried NLP. It looks way too extravagant and complicated. I've also seen some anti-Ross diatribes from former
seminar clients of his. Every business has dissatisfied customers. Every counselor has patients who won't
cooperate. So, you cannot be sure when someone disses a teacher whether the teacher is bad or the student is bad.
But it gives you something to think about.
Still, from what I have seen, they all seem to build their techniques
on similar foundations: you need to demonstrate confidence, a sense of humor, and to be able to talk to women about
themselves. And you cannot let the women walk all over you.
Stick to the basics and you should be okay.
couldn't have said it
better than Friendly1.
The only NLP that Nonverbal
Sexual Cuing advocates is on yourself to improve confidence and increasing the outward nonverbal signals in yourself
that women look for subconsciously (by their limbic brain) that creates attraction.
I've stuck with the
"basics" for a long time with moderate success. Since i've been using some of the NSC techniques for a short time,
I've approached and been out with women that several months ago I would have thought out of my league.
Phersurf, can you elaborate a bit
more about the specific techniques that NSC employs? And where did you hear about this Keanu guy cause he was not
mentioned anywhere in ASF or elsewhere that I know of?
I believe Colin Farrell
has the attitude women are looking for (I don't think he knows that though), maybe his a little too cocky? or just
that don't give a f- look that women like? also he dresses pretty unique with bracelets, rings, watches, necklaces
and suits. I wish I knew where he buys most of his stuff. I doubt he knows about mones.
"Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
----Swinggcat
When I first heard of [Keanu Jagger]
was through one of Derek Vitalio news letter title "The magical voice method of seduction" which is about nonverbal
communication and probably the best news letter by Derek V. I myself would also like to know how well Keanu Jagger
techniques work compare to David DeAnglo?
My biggest problem is not begin able to relax when I am around
people or when I want to. I am always very tense, I suppose I think to much about what I am doing or rejection? Can
anyone recommend anything that works best for them for relaxing? If I can learn how to relax I would be unstoppable
with the ladies. It sucks because I am always telling myself to relax, but I can't at the moment.
"Most women stop being attracted to a guy because he lets her know too early in the interaction that he likes her."
----Swinggcat
Colin Farrell, like Tom Cruise, is a world-famous actor. They are both prime beef and most of the
rest of men are chopped liver. Keep that in mind. Dressing and acting like those guys just makes you a wannabe.
Having a measure of fame can help you, but after a while, you still have to have game. The best most successful
guys I have known were relaxed and confident in what they wanted to do.
Women are drawn to men who have plans,
who do things. They like a little ambition in their guys. One night wonders are a bit different. I don't go in
for one night stands, so I don't really know what those kind of women are looking for. Just something hot, I
suppose. You can be hot or not.
But guys, don't try to be like Colin. He has assets you ain't got, unless
your name is Orlando Bloom.
I too am interested in the
principles behind NSC.
we want to know more! pretty please??
when people talk about nlp being
too hard for the layman, how much effort is that supposed to be? i know you older guys probably have work and other
important things, but i'm a college student. all i do is sleep, eat, gym, party and the occasional studying. my
mind is still in the learning mood. i'm gonna start my ross jefferies program when i get back up to school. i'll
keep u guys posted on how i'm doing.
another thing was on ross jefferies' page, there is a playboy article
with a writer using ross jefferies lines verbatim and the writer got a few dates from it i think. not sure if the
article is legit but i was wondering if anybody else saw it.
http://www.speedseduction.net/playboy.asp
Sorry, my playboy collection
doesn't strech back that far. Penthouse has done an article on him, I remember reading that one. The Penthouse
guy managed to pick up a few girls with it. Even some with boyfriends, and he even told the girls what he was
doing.
in ross' DC2000 set there
was a 45min segment of him demostarting SS live on a lady reporter in front of his class. i wasn't there but it
'looked like' he was successfully putting her in a trance very similar to the DIHL trance induced from pheromones.
she could've been paid to act interested of course u never know.
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