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    Default Did anyone see "Control Room"?

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    Seeing and

    unders
    tanding

    perspec
    tives

    differen
    t

    than my own is

    no
    t

    some
    thing I

    try

    to avoid like sidewalk poop. It's

    only another's shoes one ends up stepping in, after all! Believe me, I'd like

    to be able

    to

    say
    that I look

    a
    t all the

    perspec
    tives I can,

    sympa
    the[color=blac

    k]t[/color]ically,

    a
    t

    leas
    t for a

    minu
    te or

    three.

    Unfor
    tuna[color=bla

    ck]t[/color]ely, I know I

    consis
    ten[color=bla

    ck]t[/color]ly fail at

    this

    projec
    t, by my own

    s
    tandards.



    Althou

    gh s
    taunch

    conserva
    tives -- for whom such

    open perspec
    tive seeking would

    be like
    seeking
    to

    s
    tep on

    the poop -- and people

    wi
    th a misguided

    fai
    th in

    the

    in
    tegri[color=black

    ]t
    y of Fox News are sure

    to dislike Control

    Room
    ; perhaps

    tha[fo

    nt=SimSun]t
    is why I was really moved by

    the

    hones
    ty of

    this

    excellen
    t

    documen
    tary

    abou
    t coverage of

    the Iraq war, from

    the

    perspec
    tive of a

    mo
    tley crew of Al Jazeera

    journalis
    ts. To understand things

    from their perspective for a moment was enlightening.




    [/font][/color]One correspondent died on

    the rooftop of his

    Baghdad offices after it was

    struck by an American missle, while he was

    repor
    ting live.

    Indeed, on

    the same

    day
    , U.S. precision bombs killed

    three TV

    journalis
    ts from

    three

    differen
    t Iraqi news

    ne
    tworks, including Al

    Jazeera
    , while
    they were

    a
    t

    their offices

    repor
    ting

    the war. The

    mili
    tary said

    they

    took

    hos
    tile fire from the

    Jazeera office
    and were merely defending

    themselves.

    Bu
    t obviously,

    the timing of the

    even
    ts could

    no
    t have been a coincidence. The

    U.S. military was trying to send a message. The more compelling

    s
    tory is

    tha[fo

    nt=SimSun]t [/font]
    the news

    ne
    tworks were being

    chas
    tised, and

    effec
    tively

    preven
    ted from

    repor
    ting

    the

    true,

    nas
    ty face of war. The film showed

    the correspondent just before he died, as well as

    at his burial; his wife pleading for his colleagues to continue in their mission of journalistic

    integrity
    . But Iraqis increasingly refused Al Jazeera

    in
    terviews afterwards; due

    to
    fears

    they

    too would be

    targe[

    font=SimSun]t[/font]
    ed. The military information control strategy was brilliant.

    To merely round up the journalists and shoot them, after all, would have caused more repercussions than solved

    information control problems.

    I was really

    s
    truck[/co

    lor]
    by

    the

    hones
    ty and

    sinceri
    ty[/co

    lor]
    of

    the

    journalis
    ts regarding

    their jobs. As an American and a

    psychologis
    t, I

    immedia
    tely recognized

    their sincere passion for

    democracy, freedom of informa
    tion

    and
    the power of

    tru[fo

    nt=SimSun]t[/font]
    h. In

    tha[fo

    nt=SimSun]t[/font]
    way most of them

    s
    truck me as more American in

    spiri
    t

    than many American TV

    journalis
    ts. They

    exhibi
    ted

    the same

    heal
    thy cynicism, reasonableness,

    humor, and

    de
    tachmen[color=bla

    ck]t
    all

    the

    bes
    t

    repor
    ters share. One of

    them was a former BBC

    corresponden
    t, and the

    others
    hailed from various other

    coun
    tries, some

    Wes
    tern. Despite the fact that

    most of them were of the Muslim faith, I really go
    t

    the sense

    they

    weren'
    t overly

    emo
    tionally

    a
    tt[fo

    nt=SimSun]ached [/font]
    to any one

    posi
    tion or

    ano
    ther. Though

    sympa
    the[color=blac

    k]t
    ic

    to

    the views of average Iraqis,

    they were

    mos
    tly

    passiona
    te

    informa
    tion junkies,

    a
    t

    the same

    time

    they

    admi
    tt

    ed
    their biases and

    sympa
    thy. They

    wan
    ted

    to wake up

    the Arab world and

    ge
    t

    them

    to open

    their minds

    to

    differen
    t

    perspec
    tives -- especially

    the

    benefi
    ts of democracy(!) -- as

    much as any
    thing else. They even

    expressed admira
    tion for

    the

    in
    telligence and

    effec
    tiveness of

    the American "war propaganda

    machine" -- which reportedly trucked in non-Iraqi "extras" to act as the famous "celebrating masses" the day they

    pulled Saddham's statue down! They kept showing the same people from different angles in different locations in the

    square waving their same white t-shirts! There were in fact no actual Baghdad residents in the Square, reported

    Al Jazeera, as they were huddled in their homes, scared to death of the tanks. It was nonetheless a

    great stage performance, worthy of Hollywood. Still, th
    e

    mos
    t cynical among

    them admitted he'd "go work for

    Fox in a

    hear
    tbea[color=blac

    k]t,"[/color] as his dream was to move to America and become well to

    do. He said no one can win a war

    wi
    thou

    t
    propaganda, and seemed to take a pragmatic view. Touchingly,

    another senior journalist expessed


    grea
    t

    fai
    th in

    the American people and

    Cons
    ti

    t
    ut[co

    lor=black]ion -- that America itself would surely[/color]

    defea
    t

    the

    curren
    t ugliness being

    exhibi
    ted in our foreign policy.

    He sounded more

    pa
    trio

    t
    ic (in an American sense) and

    passiona
    te

    abou
    t

    this idea

    than would

    mos
    t Americans, perhaps due

    to his naive idealism

    abou
    t democracy as an

    ou
    tsider. So Control Room

    was also a film about the beauty of America and its ideals.

    Ironically, even as Rumsfeld and Bush

    were calling Al Jazeera a horrible

    terrorist[co

    lor=black] propaganda machine

    [/color]tha[fo

    nt=SimSun]t[/font]
    needed

    to be disciplined (and indeed

    i
    t was disciplined), officials

    from
    the

    S
    ta[fo

    nt=SimSun]t[/font]
    e

    Depar
    tmen[color=bla

    ck]t[/color] and

    Cen
    tral Command

    mili
    tary

    informa
    tion office, who were

    interviewed for the film, developed

    tremendous

    respec
    t for

    the network through working with

    them closely, even admiring
    their

    willingness
    to

    presen
    t all sides of an issue and

    offer Americans equal airtime.


    Though I, along

    wi
    th

    o
    ther Americans, have been spoon

    fed
    the view of Donald Rumsfeld

    and major Ne
    twork news

    tha[fo

    nt=SimSun]t[/font]
    Al Jazeera is merely "Bin Laden's

    mou
    thpiece"; I could

    no
    t help

    bu
    t come away from the film

    wi
    th

    the view

    tha[fo

    nt=SimSun]t [/font]
    they are

    ra
    ther

    like

    the PBS we know and love on Sunday

    af
    ternoons; in a

    differen
    t locale;

    wi
    th a

    differen
    t consumer base. Being

    where
    they are, with various

    offices throughout Iraq, no reasonable person could have

    expec
    ted

    them

    to be

    jus
    t like Fox, NBC, CNN, or CBS.

    In contrast, the film showed that all these major networks' main Iraq offices were located right in the middle of

    the Coalition Central Command suite; next to, or across the hall from, those of various generals. You'd think all

    those reporters buzzing in and out would have been in the way of military planning, but apparently not. As

    I said, it was an enlightening film.

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    I've been meaning to see this

    one. It's next on my list.

    Thanks for the review!
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    yep, one to go see for sure

    - I'd read another review but DST's is the better one. Thanks DST!!!!

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    This is a very subversive film for

    out times. (Possibly more so than F9/11.) It makes Arabs look human.
    It makes no effort to hide Al

    Jazeera’s bias. (In one scene a translator gags after translating one of Rumsfelds speeches.) But it does so in a

    way that exposes Western bias.
    In truth “objective journalism” is just a myth but that’s no excuse for

    unprofessionalism. I think that’s the strongest message coming out of “Control Room”.

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    Its in my Netflix queue...I'm

    going to move it up...nice review DST...I had also heard that the toppling of the Saddam Statue was total stage

    managed propaganda from another source...Its unfortunate how many Americans dont realize how much government

    disinformation they're exposed to on a daily basis. F-911 & Control Room are just scratching the surface. Free

    speech & a free press have long since become anachronisms in our society...

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.k.a.
    This is a very

    subversive film for out times. (Possibly more so than F9/11.)
    For all the right

    reasons...
    Quote Originally Posted by a.k.a
    It makes Arabs look human.
    Arabs are human!!! Its attitudes like this that

    creates so much animosity towards the US around the world...
    Quote Originally Posted by a.k.a
    It makes no effort to hide Al Jazeera’s

    bias.
    "How dare they counter the massive bias coming out of the maw of the US media machine"


    Quote Originally Posted by a.k.a.
    (In one scene a translator gags after translating one of Rumsfelds speeches.)
    I would

    to...maybe they should show the photo op when Rumsfled was shaking Saddams hand & sucking up to him, back when

    Saddam was considered more politically expedient to the interests of US foreign policy...
    Quote Originally Posted by a.k.a.
    In truth

    “objective journalism” is just a myth
    Finally something I can agree with

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    Apologies to a.k.a. if I

    misunderstood your comments...I guess I should really see this flick before I go spouting off about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.k.a.
    This is a very

    subversive film for out times. (Possibly more so than F9/11.) It makes Arabs look human.
    It makes no effort to

    hide Al Jazeera’s bias. (In one scene a translator gags after translating one of Rumsfelds speeches.) But it does so

    in a way that exposes Western bias.
    In truth “objective journalism” is just a myth but that’s no excuse for

    unprofessionalism. I think that’s the strongest message coming out of “Control Room”.
    I agree it's one of

    the strong messages in there, though in academic journalism settings it's "old hat" to say that. You can be

    balanced and fairly highlight multiple perspectives. I also agree it "fleshes out" the human side of "Arabia," and

    that this is subversive for the masses whose perspective depends on seeing Arabs as half-human.
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    Default military spokesman silenced

    I've

    heard of silencing dissent, but this is more like silencing reason:

    "Rushing, a Central Command spokesman

    assigned to escort the documentary makers during their time in Qatar, is among the film's most sympathetic

    characters, portrayed as a thoughtful young man moved over time by the grim reality of war.

    At no point is he

    shown doubting the justness of the U.S. effort in Iraq, yet the film documents a budding friendship between Rushing

    and Al Jazeera reporter Hassan Ibrahim, and moments on camera when Rushing is wrestling with the film's central

    themes: war, bias and the Arab world's most powerful media outlet.

    The Marine's role in the film turned him

    into a minor celebrity among the art-house-cinema crowd. But the candid comments he made in the documentary and in

    interviews after its release ran afoul of his superiors in the Marine Corps, which he now plans to

    leave."

    ...

    "His situation has angered many in the military public affairs community who say Rushing

    has been a passionate spokesman for the U.S. armed forces and is being punished for appearing in a film that

    portrays Al Jazeera — a bete noire of the Bush administration since the Sept. 11 attacks — in a positive

    light.

    "Here's a guy who represents the very best of public affairs in the Marines," says a senior military

    official who worked with Rushing at Central Command, speaking on condition of anonymity. "For whatever reason, it

    didn't play well with some of the senior brass in the Marine Corps at Pentagon. They're losing one of their

    finest."

    A 14-year veteran, Rushing enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1990. After serving nine years, he

    entered the University of Texas on an ROTC scholarship and earned a dual degree in classics and ancient history.

    This background, Rushing's friends said, gave him a more nuanced view of the Arab world and its attitudes about the

    West."

    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...ines-frontpage

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    Thumbs down Rushing to Judgement

    Marine

    Cpt. Rushing did an almost impossible job well there -- to represent the U.S. in that film! His humanity and

    genuineness saved him in my eyes, and saved the U.S. from looking totally bad in the film. He did his best to

    struggle with the issues under fire -- way better than all our lying, phony, foolish, arrogant, shallow politicians

    do. Damn, that sucks royally that they crucified him! He wasn't even sprouting any liberal dogma! The

    Marines should be proud of him, and decorate him for that. He fought with courage, without firing a shot; to

    maintain his integrity. Who else is giving America a human face over there?? Bush's, Cheney's and Rumsfeld's

    speeches to the Iraqi's on Al Jazeera were just consistently and categorically abysmal, full of

    dogmatic, meaningless, patronizing, insensitive, mechanical cliches; and this guy shows 'em how it's done

    -- be yourself -- be real! Why can none of our politicians figure that one out, even for a moment?!? How can they be

    so dense? Isn't it logically obvious that presenting a human face and story is the only thing that consistently

    works to cross cultural barriers? God help us, the Jerry Springer Nation, the nation of black and white thinking!



    I want to emphasize as strongly as I can that the Marines are absolutely fucking nuts for chastizing and silencing

    Cpt. Josh Rushing! Doesn't anyone have any wisdom who is running that organization?

    Here we have a

    patriotic American soldier that Muslims in Iraq can like and trust, due to his genuineness, thoughtfullness,

    humility and compassion; who yet stays true to himself, his job and his country! This guy accomplishes what no other

    American diplomat, military spokesperson or politician has done -- does the impossible -- and they make an example

    of him, disown him; and punish him -- drive this 14 year veteran out of the Marines! Freaking idiots!



    They disowned the most important cultural example of the image we need to portray to Arabs for the long

    term!

    Whatever happened to "winning the hearts and minds of the people" in Iraq!?! I guess they think

    that robotic, abstract, dogmatic, rhetorical cliches, if repeated enough, will work! (e.g., "We are here to liberate

    the Iraqi people!"). Winning the hearts and minds of a nation and culture unfamiliar with Democracy over to

    Democracy is hard! It doesn't get any easier when their streets have filled with blood; when you are driving

    tanks up and down their streets, have bombed their cities, and reduced their young male population significantly. It

    requires an extremely in depth, multifaceted and nuanced approach, like a university program in citizenship, but

    deeper and based in real life examples. All this is necessary but insufficient. WTF does a Donald Rumsfeld speech

    do? Bush is going about this in such an intelligent way, is he not -- a way befitting his IQ -- a double

    digit IQ so high it is significantly above retarded??

    [url="http://pearly6000.tripod.com/htmls/bush-dimwit.html"](http://pearly6000.tripod.com/htmls/bush-dimwit.html[/url

    ]) That right there was a chance to make inroads and we just blew it. Providence has given us so many opportunities

    post 9/11 to redeem ourselves or enjoy support from the world, and we have squandered most all of them, like

    prodigal children!

    At least this film and F911 have been examples of Democracy in action. They are, ironically,

    some of America's best friends abroad at this moment (not that I expect too many staunch conservatives to be

    able to recognize this, unfortunately)! That type of thing, criticising your government, makes America more

    attractive, not less attractive. We've got nothing to hide. The process is what makes us seem truly great, not the

    content. It is easier to see this is true when we stop assuming people everywhere else are stupider than we are.

    Whew! Found some optimism there!
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    Default And relatedly...

    Well, not really,

    but what the

    hell:

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...br /> ed_hoax
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    It's a little sick and

    twisted, but one crazy way to sort of defeat something is for pop culture to absorb it. Soon, maybe there will be

    punk bands wearing orange jump suits and pretending to behead each other on stage, college kids staging fake

    beheadings, video games, art exhibits, and headless halloween costumes. If people become sort of numb, cynical or

    maxed out on it, it's value as an automatic terror button declines somewhat. Of course, this isn't any sort of

    preferred solution.
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    Default Blair warns press not to report Jazeera news

    Warning on Jazeera bombing report

    Britain has warned media

    organizations they are breaking the law if they publish details of a leaked document said to show U.S. President

    George W. Bush wanted to bomb Arabic television station Al Jazeera.

    The government's top lawyer warned

    editors in a note after the Daily Mirror newspaper reported on Tuesday that a secret British government memo said

    British Prime Minister Tony Blair had talked Bush out of bombing the broadcaster in April last year.




    Several British newspapers reported the attorney general's note on Wednesday and repeated the Mirror's

    allegations, which the White House said were "so outlandish" they did not merit a response. Blair's office declined

    to comment.


    Al Jazeera, which has repeatedly denied U.S. accusations it sides with insurgents in

    Iraq, called on Britain and the United States to state quickly whether the report was accurate.




    "If the report is correct then this would be both shocking and worrisome not only to Al Jazeera but to media

    organizations across the world," the Qatar-based station said in a statement.


    The story would

    also be a shock for Qatar, a small Gulf state which cultivates good relations with Washington.




    Reporters' rights groups called on the United States and Britain to promptly give clarification of the

    report.


    "This is a very serious charge with grave implications for the safety of media

    professionals," said Ann Cooper, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists. "Refusing to address

    these reports in a substantive way only fuels suspicions."


    Reporters Without Borders said: "We

    find it hard to believe that President Bush really discussed this possibility. This would be extremely serious and

    would constitute a major and unprecedented violation of the right to information.


    "If this report

    turns out to be true, it offers a new insight into the motives of the U.S. forces, which have already bombed Al

    Jazeera offices twice, in Afghanistan and Iraq."


    The Mirror said the memo came from Blair's

    Downing Street office and turned up in May last year at the local office of Tony Clarke, then a member of parliament

    for the town of Northampton. Clarke handed the document back to the government.


    Leo O'Connor,

    who used to work for Clarke, and civil servant David Keogh were charged last Thursday under Britain's Official

    Secrets Act with making a "damaging disclosure of a document relating to international relations."




    WHITE HOUSE SUMMIT

    The Mirror said Bush told Blair at a White House summit on April 16

    last year that he wanted to target Al Jazeera. The summit took place as U.S. forces in Iraq were launching a major

    assault on the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah.


    The paper quoted an unnamed government official

    suggesting Bush's threat was a joke but added another unidentified source saying the U.S. president was

    serious.


    White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "We are not interested in dignifying

    something so outlandish and inconceivable with a response."


    The attorney general told media that

    publishing the contents of a document which is known to have been unlawfully disclosed by a civil servant was a

    breach of the Official Secrets Act.


    Kevin Maguire, the Mirror's associate editor, said

    government officials had given no indication of any legal problems with the story when contacted before publication.



    "We were astonished, 24 hours later, to be threatened with the Official Secrets Act and to be

    requested to give various undertakings to avoid being injuncted," he told BBC radio.


    Al Jazeera

    said that, if true, the story would raise serious doubts about the U.S. administration's version of previous

    incidents involving the station's journalists and offices.


    In 2001, the station's Kabul office

    was hit by U.S. bombs and in 2003 Al Jazeera reporter Tareq Ayyoub was killed in a U.S. strike on its Baghdad

    office. The United States has denied deliberately targeting the station.




    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051123/ts_nm/britain_usa_jazeera_dc;_ylt=AtLXAzf

    13_V2O7QX_7.LccOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM 3MTY-
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